It doesn't work like this, popular misconception. It is cool in sci-fi though.
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It only kinda works like this. If you have two slits, looking at it or not, you will see the top one. Now, the really weird thing is that if you fire a single photon at a time, you will still get the top one over time, suggesting that the single photon is somehow going through both slits and interfering with itself to do so. But the even weirder thing is, if you place a detector in one of the two slits to check which slit the photon is going through? You suddenly get the bottom picture.
My understanding is. Every method of measurement influences the results.
I'm in cognitive sciences not physics. But it applies there as well.
The measurement method always interferes in some way with the result.
I have used this example with helping students understand research methods.
Doesn't matter how "non-interfering" you think your method is.
In some way or another, the act of measuring or the device used to measure (or both) changes the thing being measured.
What constitutes "measuring" here? Is it in the wider sense of any quantification of an observation, or are there conditions?
Not a true expert, but I think it comes down to "observing" a particle/phenomenon like this inherently comes down to some sort of interaction, and it can't just be neglected like you could on a macro scale. Even for something like holding a ruler up to an object and seeing what mark lines up, you're relying on a bunch of light bouncing off the object (and the ruler) to be able to judge that. If the thing you're trying to measure is on the order of one particle of light, blasting it with a bunch of anything is gonna affect it pretty severely, and who knows what a "ruler" would even mean in that analogy. So it's less like some idea of sapient knowledge, and more like when you struggle to measure something like a tiny feather or single bead of Styrofoam, like you can't even get near the thing without the wind from moving or some random static or something else moving the thing around uncontrollably, except many orders of magnitude more sensitive.
The ruler metric itself is also a factor. And the human looking at it.
If you were using cm , thats going to give you a different number than if you were using mm. Or nm.
Humans can't perceive nm by eye. And most can't distinguish more than 1/3 or 1/4 of a mm. At best.
So the tool and the human also limits accuracy. Meaning the tool has influenced the result. And The human has limited the measurement too.
Question for the ages
Since the start of the war against Iran, I started taking the bus instead of driving to work. Now and then, someone will step off the bus in a way that makes me observe a certain post-impact soft tissue oscillation. It's definitely an observation, but it could maybe count as measuring, in which case it would change the outcome?
shy proton theory
Naw. "observing" doesn't mean, a human looks at the data. It means, we force the particle to be in one place on a quantum level. the word "observation" is overloaded in some sense

WE ARE WAVE, RESISTANCE IS FUTILE (unless you measure us), your biological distinctiveness will receive energy and transmit it in a periodic fashion
"Observation" or "measurement" actually means interaction. We literally can't measure anything without interacting with it. If you place something at the slits which is able to detect a photon going through, it can only do so by interacting with it.
The common way seems to be that the passing particle induces a tiny electric current in a wire loop. Obviously, that takes energy away from the particle (that energy is now in the movement of one or more electrons in the wire). And that means, its wave function in that very moment is one locational probability of 1 - it is collapsed.
Yeah no. Many scientists are crawling all over YouTube on this one and explaining it the other way. That it even reversed the results when going back to observe it. Like changing time. I don’t see any of you people calling that shit out as hard as you’re doing here.
It’s funny cuz even if someone states they know exactly what’s going on here (as if everyone else is stupid and misunderstands it) it becomes the biggest heated debate between all the eggheads in the room.
no one agrees on what is going on here.
Being a rando online Calling everyone else stupid or referring to a deeply debated subject such as this one is just simply misunderstood doesnt make you the smartest person in the room. It certainly doesn’t make you appear to know what is going on to explain it yet again in yet a different way that contradicts scientists who do show their face and names who have explained it the other way.
Until we have a solution to the wave function collapse, it kind of freaks me out.
My understanding is that the tools that are used to observe it cause the wave function to collapse. Like how putting a thermometer into meat to check the temp makes a little hole.
intference pattern by light wavelengths, used by many animals to give them those iridescent colors.
I mean, technically
They should just show this in physics classes and skip all the boring words.
I bet if you wait a few more years they'll be putting memes in science textbooks.
I mean, thats also how we got weird pseudoscience about how the universe shifts around our consciousness.
Its usually not made clear in school that things can only be measured by touching it or bouncing something off of it. On the macro scale, looking at something doesn't move the thing you're measuring because you're just capturing the abundant photons that are already bouncing off the thing in the billions per second. On the quantum scale, looking at something involves shooting particles at the thing, which is often comparable to measuring how big a cat is by trying to bounce a kickball off it and measuring the angle it rebounds. It works, but you can't expect the cat to continue behaving the same after being assaulted out of nowhere.
It's a matter for interpretation, but I think they used "literally" correctly, but they were just wrong on the science.
Like, if I say that when the sun appears over the horizon, it is literally plaid colored, I am using "literally" correctly, but the fact that I am conveying is wrong.
Words mean what people think they mean when they say them. Nothing else. Miscommunication can occur if the speaker and listener don't have the same concept in their head, but it doesn't change the fact that words are just people serializing their thoughts into sounds or text. Dictionaries are not prescriptive, they are documentative.
EDIT: In other words, "literally" is in literally the dictionary with a definition including how OP used it.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally
If you can't accept that, can you accept that they were being facetious? This is a joke community, after all.
To the downvoters: go read some semantic theory. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantics
Not exactly. If I were to tell you that I believe in creationism and that the world is 6000 years old, but that it means what you think evolution and cosmology mean and that I'm just using different words, you probably still wouldn't want me teaching your kids in school about science.
Or, at least, I would hope not.
All the more reason to really reflect on how we use words. When there's confusion and misunderstanding, should we just accept it because that's how it is, or should we consciously decide if we are helping or hurting communication through the words we choose to use?
I "literally" don't care if you use "literally" to make an obviously facetious joke like OP did.
Stop philosophizing over a joke. We are in "science memes".
Okay but that's a dishonest argument. Sure reality is just perception and perception is unique to the individual. All that said words have meaning which we have agreed upon. Otherwise I could write gibberish, call it meaningful text, and prove anything. It's the fact that words have specific meanings which makes them useful. Otherwise it's baby talk and that's cute but not great for communication.
Yes, communication works best when people agree on what words mean, and a great, great many people have agreed that "literally" means things other than "literally". It's not gibberish to use it as such.
It's not a dishonest argument at all. Language is not prescriptive. It's constantly evolving. New words are invented all the time, and old words take on new meanings all the time.
Do you ever use "awesome" to mean "super cool"? Congratulations, you're misusing the word! How about "egregious" as in a bad error? Wrong! How about "fantastic" as meaning "wonderful" or "great"? Also wrong.
Even when words do have specific meaning, if you don't know the meaning they are useless to you, so it might as well be gibberish. Can you speak Swahili? Does that mean it's gibberish? Of course not.
You've obviously given this some thought. I'm curious what you think of an example. Think about this sentence: "The theory of gravity can help explain things." And then this one: "Evolution is just a theory." Is there a difference in what the word "theory" means?
The context of what each speaker is saying matters. Words don't have much meaning in isolation except for simple ones like "no". You could have a degree in the Philosophy of Science and still struggle to define "theory" accurately and succinctly.
One speaker is using the word as a positive thing (accurately). After all, a theory is the best we can say about how the world works. The second speaker is using the word pejoratively. In that sense it actually doesn't mean the same thing, and any scientist would argue that the second person doesn't understand what they mean when scientists say "theory".
Note: I said when scientists say theory. Words don't have inherent meaning, so the speaker matters. The speaker can only hope their audience takes their words the way they're intended. There's no guarantee that they will.
The second speaker is trying to refute science by quoting scientists, yet using the word in a way that scientists don't. That's obviously dumb. But it is the way that most non-scientists use the word, so you could say the second speaker is just confused about what scientists have been saying when they use the word. The scientists' goal should be to correct the second speaker's understanding of what scientists mean when they use the word. The word itself is not actually important. You can get across the meaning without ever using the word itself.
So who's right and who's wrong? Neither. It's a simple misunderstanding of how scientists uses the word when they speak. Unless, of course, the second speaker knows the scientific definition, and is pretending to not know in order to pander to an audience.
I agree with that. In my ideal world, the person who said "evolution is just a theory" would hear the scientist explain the difference and think "Ah, using the word 'theory' like I have before is maybe not wrong in some contexts, but it's causing confusion and in that sense it weakens our language. I will therefore be careful and use another word instead, perhaps 'speculation', to sharpen our shared language into a more precise tool for understanding each other. Since words mean what we all agree they mean, they are infinitely malleable and beautifully fragile, but we all have the opportunity, and duty, to influence the direction as we head into the future."

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