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[–] 106 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yes. Im way more efficient at home. Less offfice bullshit.

No commute or shitty weather.

Roll out of bed and online in seconds, just open the laptop lid, leave it in suspend.

My food and can cook a proper meal.

Also can throw on a wash or whatever during the day.

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  • [–] 31 points 9 months ago

    Being home when my packages get delivered is also a nice bonus too! And where I live, I have to deal with a lot of snow. Normally this would be a pain in the ass, but when you work from home, you get to it when you feel like it.

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    [–] 49 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    People who socialize in the office hate wfh

    People who socialize outside of the office love wfh

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I socialize quite a lot at both but work is a non-issue for me as long as I perform on my half assed level of half assed halfassery.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    Yeah it more applies to people who actually get their primary socialization time at work

    A lot of people have social lives that are dominated by work relationships from being regular friends to hanging out after work and such

    So wfh for them is basically just isolation because they never had to socialize for themselves, school and then work provided it by necessity and proximity

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    [–] 36 points 9 months ago* (3 children)

    I love it and I'm never going back.

    • I save myself the commute (time, gas).
    • In closer to my son's daycare, so it's easier to pick him up of something spontaneously comes up.
    • I'm near my dog throughout the day.
    • I have the fridge close to me. ;-)
    • I can do the laundry or start the vacuum robot at convenient times.
    • I have less interruptions by blergh people.
    • I don't have to sit with my back towards the office door, which in turn was adjacent to the men's room.
    • I can wear casual legwear.
    • Better coffee.
    • My three person office at work is empty anyway, because my colleagues commuted from further apart and are happy about WFH as well. So my options are a) sit alone in my office at home or b) sit alone in my office at work.
    • I'm here for deliveries throughout the day.
    • I don't have that loneliness/isolation issue going, but I do see that it's wildly different among people; some are made for WFH and some need the office to be happy.

    EDIT to add, because it's an important factor and I read it in the answers:

    • shitting on your own toilet, with proper toilet tissue, even through remote meetings.
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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Your own toilet and good toilet paper instead of the cheapest waxy one-ply 🙏 your own control over the AC/heat instead of freezing/sweating 🙏 never having to smell someone heating up fish in the microwave 🙏

    I'm 100% remote and love it

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    [–] 18 points 9 months ago

    I'd say not having to commute is a huge benefit of WFH, but it has some pitfalls that can negatively impact your work performance depending on what you do.

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  • [–] 17 points 9 months ago

    Fully remote for years now and never want an on-site job again. I don't mind going for a couple of events a year, though.

    I can take my "smoke break" to change loads of laundry or do something else around the house. I have no commute time nor expenses. I am always here for deliveries. I regained so much of my time that I can use for study or entertainment. (Assuming a 1-hour commute, even if most of that is on a train, that's 10 hours a week back from that alone).

    For success, your company and you need to have good communication and planning. It's also not for everyone, especially more social people.

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  • [–] 15 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    I've been WFH since 2020, and it's working well for me.

    There are some obvious benefits such as not having a commute, being able to do laundry during breaks and always being there when a package arrives.

    Some maybe less obvious advantages I personally enjoy is being able to eat whenever, meaning a quick snack but also my lunch, and wearing less appealing but way more comfortable clothes.

    Oh, and shitting in my own toilet. While getting paid for it. Definitely that.

    I'm not gonna dismiss the potential challenges, though. It works well for me because I don't mind being alone and I'm lucky to have a spare room to use as an office. Without those two factors it could easily enter suck territory.

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    [–] 14 points 9 months ago

    Unquestionably yes. My coffee doesn't taste like shit, and my PJs are far more comfortable than any office attire imaginable.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Depends if you're an introvert or an extrovert. As an introvert I only see benefits; no commute, a close bathroom at all times, a kitchen with food, not needing to hear annoying coworkers except during meetings etc. If you're an extrovert then you might enjoy hearing your coworkers all day I guess?

    Or if you have a toxic household you need to escape from.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    +1 on the bathroom. Few things suck more than having a morning coffee shit at the office, wiping with that ridiculous tissue paper that disintegrates if you get it near water, and then walking around all day with an air of confidence even though you know there is no way you got it all.

    Protip for office dwellers: keep a single pack Dude Wipe or similar at the office so you can poop without it being a biological hazard. Just don't forget it. Asking a random coworker to grab one out of your desk is awkward.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    Working from home, no commute, no clothes, no travel time, no car, easy food.

    It's so efficient, it's crazy.

    There is real value to working not-at-home, but working from home outweighs it in 99% of situations.

    The reality is, and has been, and should be:

    LISTEN TO AND TRUST PEOPLE WHEN THEY TELL YOU THEY LIKE OR DON'T LIKE SOMETHING.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago

    From home since epidemic started and I would want to hug covid if it was a person.

    My productivity in office was always low. Too many distractions, too many inconveniences. Then there is an issue with getting to the office - it's an additional hour of my life they are not paying extra for. And of course - at home I can work while doing simple chores. But the most important is that I can be with my daughters, instead of being just another father that spends half a day at work and the other half sleeping.

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  • [–] 13 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Yes. Cat.

    Really one day I realized I rather eat lunch with my cats than any of my coworkers and have never looked back

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Really one day I realized I rather eat lunch with my cats than any of my coworkers and have never looked back

    I know right. Being with my animals, (and I suppose, even my family) is priceless to me.

    I'll have a puddle of cats on my bed whilst the GSD is wedged between my chair and the bed, my lights are off, my room is dark and cool with a silver of light coming through the top shades. I got my tunes playing and I'm not getting interrupted.

    I got my computers around me, I'm running multiple processes. If I get tired I can roll onto the bed.

    The dog and cats are just happy to hang, we play, do commands and I get to take my dog out for a long lunch time walk.

    Sure the cats do talk back a bit but it's so much nicer to hear them meow then colleagues crapping about crap.

    I hate going to work. I'm sitting in my office (forced to come in several days a week) and I realise I do not want to speak to a single person. Sometimes I try to avoid speaking to people for an entire day.

    I guess it's the 20 years I spent running frontline customer service teams that makes you despise humanity. I am in absolutel awe that the vast majority of humans have mastered the skill of inhaling and exhaling. I'm still astounded that people have worked out how to use the buttons on their shirts, or worked out how to pull clothes onto their bodies.

    Seriously I used to image customers sitting at the kitchen table with a shirt over their face and various items of clothes half on their limbs alwhilst trying, but missing, to insert a spoon of cereal into their mouths.

    I cannot tell you how many times I've had to make sure the goddam fucking computer was turned on ("oh is that why internet didn't work?") before going through troubleshooting steps, only to be meet with a "oh wow it's working".

    Argh.

    The other thing about work from home is that 10 years ago when I started my job I might have taken 8 hours to do a particular job.

    Now I'm able to do it in 1 hour (ok fine, 5 mins via scripting and shit). I don't need to explain or justify to my boss what I'm doing in the 7 hours as long as the job he pays me to do is getting done (I do time sensitive shit so it's also being available at a moments notice to jump into action).

    Most jobs come down to attitude. Now yes I'm doing my own stuff, picking the kids up at 3pm, walking my dog at lunch, but when the shit hits the fan I'm up at 2am, getting stuff back up and running and hitting/beating deadlines. I don't mind the messy complex fucked up job and I don't whinge/give my boss grief (unlike most of the staff I work with). He knows he can give me shit and it'll get done, properly (not half assed), returned with even a bow tied across it and ready to present to his bosses without any further handling.

    Otherwise WFH is just so superior to WFO, from a cost, time and sheer efficiency point of view.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago

    Yes, been 100% WFH since 2015. I do miss the random chats in hallways, lunch room, etc, but definitely not worth going back to an office. I am far more effective at home.

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  • [–] 12 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I get paid to be on a computer while sitting at home. regardless of the output or pay, the environment is exquisite.
    I did Corp office work for ... years... then worked toward wfh goals toward end of 20-teens. been remote since 2019.

    but there's a certain expectation and performance that comes with it. years of Corp work taught me to be punctual and professional, etc. politeness / teamwork /soft skills still come into play, even remotely.

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    [–] 10 points 9 months ago

    WFH is awesome.

    Can take breaks from work to drop off/pick up kid from school. Saving like 15% of my paycheque that would go to daycare otherwise.

    Car insurance is cheaper, because no matter how much I drive I'm not commuting to work so the insurance company counts me as "occasional driver".

    I can loudly and violently swear at bullshit emails.

    I can listen to my own music on speakers while working.

    Minor cons though:

    I'm getting weirder due to the lack of minor social interactions that otherwise I'd get on the bus, sidewalk, office, cafe, so on.

    Some cabin fever from being in the same space all day. I live in an apartment so I don't have a separate room for my work computer. Turn off work computer, turn on personal computer, and it's the same screens while I sit in the same chair. On the other hand this does motivate me to get outside after work to exercise or do errands.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Sometimes. There's a lot less office BS at home, but it gets very quiet and isolated, even if you intentionally make a trip out during lunch or whatever.

    The commute sucks though. Always.

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    [–] 9 points 9 months ago

    One reason that’s in favour is that people who cannot WFH benefit because there’s fewer people clogging up the commute. I always bring this up with people who say “must be nice but I can’t build a house/save patients/etc. from home”. Some people like that feel that because they need to be somewhere, office dwellers should too. But it actively makes their life more difficult!

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Yep - I always disliked having to figure out food for the day before heading into the office. I'm not ready to eat breakfast until closer to noon, but once I start eating, I want to snack every hour or two while working.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    As others have said, working from home has many benefits

    • no commute
      • save time
      • save money
      • less risk of disease and accident
      • often easier child care options
    • greater control over environment
      • offices are often too hot or cold for some
      • stock own food, drinks, toilet paper, etc
    • better pet access. Cat on lap. Dog walk easier.
    • easier wardrobe
    • several distraction categories removed
      • people walking up to your desk
      • loud meetings

    The commute alone is pretty big. If your commute is like an hour, that's changing your salary from like $x / 10 hours to $x / 8 hours. That's a big bump. If your daily pay was $1000, that's like going from $100/hour to $125/hour.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago

    Feb 16 2020 was the last day I stepped into an office. The first person to die of COVID in the USA was not far from my office and HR sent everyone home.

    At the time, I had a 1 year old son and watched his first steps over a small phone screen. Listen to him say his first word though my headset at work. I fucking hated it.

    After COVID, I watched my son grow up and experience everything. From the highs and lows. I love it.

    The major downside is that WFH jobs are very few and I had to quit multiple jobs because of RTO policies. Today, I opened a business and just work as a contractor. Even though I don't make as much, I wouldn't change it for the world.

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I love it. No commute, optional shower, no pants. I'm not a very big pants guy, and that's a huge seller.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago

    A little. I like 1 or 2 days at home. I tried total WFH and I got very lonely. I am an extrovert, so being in an office fits me.

    However my current role is 100% in office. I also don't like that. I don't have the flexibility to schedule people to work on my house, it's expensive to commute, I miss my dog.

    I'd love a hybrid 2/3 schedule.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    Have done wfh full time for about 6 years now (since the rona), I would never go back to a full time or even hybrid role unless forced. I would sooner quit my job if they forced me into a hybrid position.

    The freedom is so much greater and I get so much more done than when I do occasionally have to go into an office for meetups or workshops (maybe 5-6 times a year).

    The style of working is different to that of being in office, you have to be self motivating, semi-solo problem solving and you need a reasonably quiet workspace. This can be hard to get in some situations so I feel very lucky to be able to do it.

    The company also needs to be setup to promote and support remote working, so having regular check ins with people and making sure people have support in place should they need it. Plus policies that work for remote workers as opposed to in office workers.

    13/10 would recommend.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yes. I have worked at both and I feel much more comfortable at home. It gives you a level of flexibility that is hard to describe. I can start my day early, take a break for an hour, and resume it when I feel I can give it the proper level of attention. When I was in office, there was a pressure to look like you're working all the time. It felt hard to concentrate when the expectation was on dedicating the expected time to work rather than getting something done. With WFH, it's more about getting your tasks done and generally no one cares when you do it. And I can slouch and prop my feet up and have videos/music/audiobooks playing and whatever else I want without anyone knowing, let alone caring. I don't need to worry about a commute, and all my food and comforts are available when I want them. I can easily handle things like being at home for a package delivery or a technician repairing something or walking the dog or just doing laundry.

    That being said, I will admit it is considerably harder to get help with a task in office. You can't just have someone pop by to look at something for example. You can still do a call or message, but it's a bigger barrier to overcome. With WFH, collusion for a group more often needs to be scheduled, and you don't have an analogue for water cooler talk.

    Many places that offer work from home also have an office somewhere, so I would recommend new employees go in while learning the ropes, then switch as they become more independent. And some people like having different locations to help switch between work and relaxation mentalities. And it can be nice to get out of the house too. But overall, WFH is much better for me.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    Is it a specific field you're in or can anyone apply, how do you go about finding a WFH job? I live in a very rural area, I have a job been at it 10 years but I'm ready too move on, there's just nothing else around I want to do. I actually have fiber internet so that's not a problem.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I'm a software developer, so there's a lot of WFH positions at least compared to other fields. But unless you have particularly good connections you would probably need to get a related degree if you wanted a job at most places. I've also heard it's not a good time to be applying unfortunately. You might be able to try for some WFH consulting work related to your current job. Big software companies will hire contractors for temporary work too I guess, but they would probably still want experienced candidates. For me, this was just a position I applied to a few years ago and was lucky enough to get an offer. I don't think there's a secret to it, sorry.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Ok. No i graduated highschool in 96. Farmed for 20 years after, got hurt. Now I'm just a parts manager at a small business. Just bored with it. I want change but at the same time I get off at 5 and am able to be with my family.

    The downside is my boss, and pay even though he gives me vacation days, I am hardly ever allowed to use them in the summer time To begining of September . He homeschools his kid because he's a dumbass maga clown. So he thinks it's ok for my kids to miss School in September. if I want to go on a trip for a week. No. Which makes going on a family vacation hard.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    It is lonely and isolating. Especially after my divorce.

    Idk. I really don't.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I do a lot of telework and very little on-site work. Like 80% teleworking. I love the telework. I get to sleep 45 minutes later, don't have to get frustrated during my commute, save money on gas, have a discounted auto insurance rate, save on car maintenance, socialize with my coworkers over Teams (which is as much as I need to socialize with them), eat most of my meals with my wife who I enjoy spending time with. All the downtime at my job is now spent doing things like washing dishes, doing laundry, watching TV and movies, and reading, instead of listening to coworkers talk about inane stuff or having admin hover around micro- managing.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    There are a multitude of reason why I like it.

    The most important is that I am not wasting an hour and change commuting. I don't need to worry about train schedules. Commuting by car would have been worse: I'd spend hundreds of euros on gas and tolls, never mind parking. I also don't have a bunch of dead time I cannot really take advantage of. Sure, some of it I could use to read in public transport, or listen to podcasts, but there is a limit. I am prone to motion sickness, so there are limits to when I can do it and for how long. And during peak hours? The experience of getting on a train is, sometimes, not great. Too many people, too hot. As much as I love public mass transport, the experience during peak hours is miserable.

    The other thing about WFH, in my current setup, is that... I can just step away? I have gone to a friends house to give them and/or deliver something during work hours because I just have enough time. I have driven parents for appointments because it was quick enough, or I could just take my work laptop with me and work from the car. I have worked from another country entirely, and the biggest difference was the timezone. And if I really want to, I can visit a teammate and work from his house instead!

    There are few other reasons why work from home is great, though they are not that important in the grand scheme of things. In the places I have worked, we have had open spaces. This means noise. Others might need to be on a call, or you might need to be on a call. It means that multiple people in the same call is now an exercise in mute discipline so you don't distract others hearing themselves through your microphone. It also means I cannot just pace around while on a chat, which I sometimes do thanks to the wireless headphones I invested in. Actually, it means I need to use my headphones much more because if I want music, I need them on, whereas at home I can just use speakers instead?

    We do get togethers once a month, though I don't go to all of them. We also are relatively liberal with audio chats for not so serious subjects. I don't feel lonely for two reasons: I just deal well with calls and other such ways of interacting with people; and I can use the extra time I don't commute to actually go out with people I like after work.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I work part time from home and part time in office

    Pros

    • I can concentrate better at home (Open space in office)
    • Save time driving to and from work
    • My own toilet
    • Family cat can hang out with me (if I deserve his attention)
    • Can chill out on the couch/bed when taking a break
    • My own internet connection

    Cons

    • Harder to get in touch with collegues
    • When I work from home for a longer time period, I feel sometimes isolated.
    • Various household tasks trhoughout the day, which breaks my concentration
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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago

    I have a sick setup at home. Plus all the conveniences others mentioned already.

    But really, it's being with the family, seeing your kids during the day. I don't want to just come home when they're already asleep.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    As an engineer, hybrid works best for many of us.

    Design phase can be wfh with some in-person idea sessions or important meetings because I have yet to be at an online idea session that was as productive as in-person being able to draw things out and visualize better, and people tend to not speak up or just check out and agree at the end in online meetings.

    Testing phase has to be mostly in person for lab tool access and collaboration on physical things.

    I have worked with a contractor that did everything from home and had a whole home lab, but it was a big time sink and cost shipping parts back and forth 5 times and you couldn't physically probe behaviors together which leads to slightly different setups and sometimes different results.

    Socially I moved to a place where I had no friends so I like getting social contact at work since in Belgium, it is extremely difficult to make new friends after you are done with school because of a culture of not talking to anyone else unless people are obnoxiously drunk lol. I like wfh on overwhelming days and in-person on days where I want more social contact.

    That being said, I work 100% in office now because I live a 12 minute bike ride from work, so very easy.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I WFH 2 days a week and commute to three different offices according to where they need me. WFH is for concentration, office time is for collaboration.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I need the home-work separation, or both suffer. I constantly get distracted from work with home stuff, and can't be fully present with family at home because I'm thinking about work.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Been 100% WFH for 4ish years now, absolutely do not want to go back. It's no different than working in the office during covid really, and this way I don't have a commute longer than it takes me to walk up a flight of stairs

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Totally love WFH. I can hang out with my dog while working, get laundry done on breaks, and no commute leaves way more free time in my life. I would never go back to working in an office unless I was in dire straights.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    You know those times at the office where things are slow so you walk the hallway or bullshit with colleagues or make a coffee run or spin in your chair?

    You know what I'm doing during those times? Petting my dog. Making a sandwich. Pooping on my own toilet with three ply TP.

    Different people like different things, I suppose. I don't miss the commute or the bullshit, but I do miss interacting with colleagues. And I'm pretty sure I haven't been promoted because I don't have enough face time with the bosses. All that to say I am mixed on it.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I work remote 100%. All the replies cover a lot of things that I love about it already. One important thing that I think helps to WFH is to make the spot you work, devoted only to work. I have a small desk set up that I use for work. When I’m done I’m never at the desk again until I’m working again. I think there’s a negative effect if you make your workspace also your play space.

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    [–] 5 points 9 months ago*

    80% wfh, 1 day at the office. I'd prefer 100% wfh, I just cannot deal with these open plan offices and sales people not taking their calls into a booth, or having the room pling-plong from whatsapp notifications. Drives me up the wall, even with my NC headphones on.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I never really hated my job or anything, and before COVID we even had an option to work from home one day a week, but I never bothered with it. But when I went to working from home full time, my quality of life improved significantly. Just driving to work used to be the most stressful part of my day, and eliminating that makes me so much happier. Not having to constantly "look busy" is also huge. As long as I get my work done my boss is happy. I also used to have bad neck and back pain which went away when I started work from home. Even though we have supposedly "ergonomic" setups at work, I guess something about it wasn't working for my body. I love working from home so much now that I would more readily accept a pay cut than to have to go back to the office.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Single father with two school aged kids, mom lives in another state. I’ve turned down a couple higher paying executive roles that have been offered to me the last few years because I don’t know how I could make it work. I get my kids up at 7 and the latest one can’t be to school until 9. I have to start getting them from school at 3:30. I’m sure I could figure it out, plenty of people less fortunate than I am but I guess that I’ve decided that I’m incredibly fortunate that I can always be around and available for my kids and I don’t think I would disrupt that for any amount of money as long as I can provide for them this way. I do miss the social aspects of my colleagues sometimes though which really surprised me.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I've been fully remote for 12 years. I've had two jobs during that time and moved five times over three countries.

    I'm glad I got into my industry on-site. But I've come to realize that I hate cities. I hate commutes. I'd rather take a pay cut and live somewhere cheap.

    My wife works from home, too. We have two dogs. We do our meetings, have time for focused work and grab lunch together.

    My previous job was definitely not lonely or isolating. I was the go-to-guy for everything, so people video calling all day long. My current job gives me space to get shit done. I've got two days a week blocked off for just deep code mode. No meetings.

    If you don't like the job on-site, then you're not going to like it remote. You've got to do something that feels rewarding.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    Yes: I don't have to waste time on the commute, and get to spend more time with family

    No: When at the office, I am more easily focused; with WFH, it takes some effort. Commute means I get some walking "exercise" in (living in a walkable EU city). Being in the office is somewhat better for collaboration with colleagues.

    It's for sure not all "rainbows and sunshines", but in the end, I by far prefer to save the commute time and invest it into other aspects of life.

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  • Despite socializing a lot when I was working at the office, I pretty much immediately loved working from home after the initial 3 months. I'd gone back in temporarily a couple of times for a few reasons, and the whole environment was... Bad.

    I run really hot in general, so being able to control my AC was great, since I swear the office was on 74 with about a thousand bodies worth of heat in a comparatively small space. To emphasize: I tend to open a window when it's anywhere between 0-50F (-17 to 10C) outside.

    Everyone had on different kinds of perfume, which just blended into this awful smell on top of whatever cleaning chemicals they used. Having 30+ people talking within earshot made it hard to focus on anything. I could go on. I didn't realize how much I hated it until I started working from home, and it was so much better.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I hate working from home. I find that I can't get into the headspace to work while at home. I find coordination is a pain in the ass and you get to better understand what is going on by physically being there.

    It is also frustrating dealing with people who say they are "doing their work" but you find out that they didn't coordinate like they said they would and the two things they designed don't interact with each other.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I love it because I bought everything I need to feel good in my office : a dock to switch easily between work and personal computers, a standup desk, many things to reduce back, neck and shoulder pain too. I have a wall painted that I can look at when I need to have a break. I don't have transport, so I wake up 15mn before work starts. There is no noise. When I feel I can work less without feeling tracked : as long as I get my work done in time, there's no issue. I can take breaks to do some house-related tasks (tho I don't take breaks lately, but I could do it).

    I could not go back to any job requiring me to go to the office.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    This is helping me get through a meeting right now.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Depends on how busy I am. If I'm just sitting around waiting to hear from people or deal with shit as it occurs. Yea WFH is nice because I have more shit to occupy my downtime. If I'm busy and need to focus it sucks ass. Also it's nice to interact with the coworkers I actually like in person and I think it makes us get along a lot better and work more effectively. I don't know how many of my coworkers would agree though. All of them except one barely come into the office. It's just my opinion though I wouldn't try to force them in more.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I used to get overstimulated a lot at office jobs. Turns out I can prevent it just fine from home. For my own mental and physical health I’ll pick working from home any day of the week. Some meetings are more useful in person though, so I do go to the office for those.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Working at home since 2020, and while I agree with the advantages most people post here, I definitely miss talking with people over lunch, or even getting out for After Work beers now and then. (Obviously that depends a lot on if you like your coworkers or not)

    This is apparently a super controversial opinion but I wouldn't mind working somewhere that forces people to the office 2, maybe 3 days a week. Just not every day.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    The lunch thing is definitely something I miss, and the white board collaborations. I haven't found any decent equivalent virtual tool for the latter, and if you're starting a new job in-person collaboration can be a jump start.

    That said I've worked remote for a decade and the pros outweigh the cons greatly. A huge perk for me is being able to workout at lunch in my home gym. I'm not a morning person and I'm often so drained by end-of-day that working out after work is a non-starter. I know my physical health would be worse if I had to go into an office because I just wouldn't end up working out like I do now.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I work remotely from a different country so I don't really have a choice but I'd show up to work 1-2 times per week because they offer free food and see the people I've been working with the past 4 years.

    That being said, I love the fact I don't have to commute, chats and calls always have a main agenda but we also chat about games, movies etc. occasionally. I can work uninterrupted most of the day

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago*

    I work 2 days in the office and three from home. It is a perfect balance, where I can do the in person interactions with non-technical people who need that connection and then buckle down and get a bunch of work done without office distractions the other three days.

    It does help that I have a work area from distractions in the home, not quite an office but with a door at least.

    Reduced commute (especially when the weather is crummy!), not needing to dress up on wfh days, eating food at home and being able to do house chores on breaks are the biggest benefit although the money saved is nice too.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I'm liking it, in moderation. Just rolling out of bed, turning on my computer and making coffee on company time right away is very time efficient. It's also nice that I can work in peace and ignore coworkers whenever I need to.

    The downside is that it's pretty annoying to collaborate on things, especially if it's with more than one person at a time. Gotta schedule a meeting, even if in person it would just be a thing of walking over and talking to them for 5mins.

    My ideal mix is 4 days wfh : 1 day in-office. I get all the talking out of the way on that one day (plus it's enough socialization for the whole week) and the rest I just exist in peace.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    A lot of the personal benefits have already been spoken of.

    What my work has really found value in is that WFH has nationalized what was once a single office team. So people from across the country work together. We have access to more talented people not just those from the office city.

    Something blows up late on the East Coast? And a person on the West Coast can immediately respond because they are three or four hours behind.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago*

    I dream of being able to WFH. But I am just a high school graduate. The only kind of job I really could get that would allow for remote work is certain aspects of IT, reception/call service, or sales. And I don't wanna do sales. It's not that I can't do other jobs, I just very likely won't even get an interview when I have no degree in anything.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    No, not really.

    I have quite different desk setups and it just feels strange working on my home setup. It's fine for the odd weekend fix under an hour, but for proper work I'd rather go to the office. Also less distractions (cats) in the office.

    Even during covid I was pretty much at the office every day. Someone had to be there to receive mail and such, so I volunteered.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I thought I'd hate working from home, it wasn't too bad. Then they made us hybrid, I thought oh no, worst of both worlds, it wasn't that bad either. I went back to the office full time because I don't have a home office and wanted to reclaim that space.

    It's pretty much the same job but teams meetings suck even more than in person meetings, and training new people too, worse.

    What I do not like is a commute. I live about one mile from work so don't even have to drive most days, if it was farther the calculation would be different.

    My family loved me working from home because I did more of the cooking and housework, it kind of intensifies that inequality I think.

    So I think personally I didn't get much benefit from working from home but it was not nearly as bad as I thought it might be, if I had to I would.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I have a contract that allows for up to 50% work from home. I use 0%. I live 10 minutes from work, so the commute isn't significant (and it gives me a reason for some light exercise). It's easier to work with colleagues if you're talking face-to-face, and I like to mentally separate being in a working mindset and a relaxation mindset, which is more difficult if my home is a workplace.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Somewhat, but it also scares me.

    I know that I'm very introverted. I like to go "heads down" writing code all day. However I'm also painfully aware from experience that not talking to others means I'm out of the loop and soon I'm developing great code for something the company doesn't need. I need to spend time in the office listening to others talk - I get much less done, but at least what I get done are things the company cares about, and in turn I'm much more likely to keep my job (having to find a new job is one of the worst things that can happen to an introvert - I have to convince strangers to hire me)

    Right now I go to the office about 16 hours a week, which seems to be enough. I also live close enough to work that I can ride my bike - in turn commute time is also exercise time, something I need to get more of anyway.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    On ocassion yes.
    But as you said it feels kinda lonely.
    And I get really easily distracted. Last time I had a major side quest I did instead of doing my actual job.

    Edit: And I have no office. I value my mental sanity by segregating my home/living space from my working place.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Yes. I had a hybrid position pre COVID that was 2/3 days a week home at alternating weeks, due to a lack of available desks in our office building. That was always nice when I worked from home. I enjoyed doing laundry during the day and being able to stop work and immediately get to switch off, as opposed to the days in office where I'd deal with driving home and traffic.

    I switched to a fully in office job when Covid hit, and our office when fully remote. Other than training and onboarding, I haven't been required in office since. I love remote work. I won't go back unless I have absolutely no other choice

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I work from home for about 75% of my work. Today, I have to drive somewhere this morning, and then again somewhere this evening. I will spend in the realm of 2.5-3 hours in the car today. I do not get paid for travel. I will not be able to get in my daily run today. I probably won't see my kids after I drop them at school. I'll get home around 11pm tonight.

    So yeah, I love wfh. But for the case of my job tonight, it's very good money, and not the perfect use case for remote (although certainly doable considering we did for years), and so I eat it, it's whatever. I generally have 7 or so jobs a month that I need to travel. Twice the commute is about 40m each way. The other five are 5-15m commutes so they're fine.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago*

    I am like her, but I hate the commute and that my dogs are lonely. Some workplaces do work-from-home well, and most don't. So that may be part of her problem. Seems to work best at companies where they started and continue to be remote-only.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I like it. I would not go back.

    But I have a nice home office, don’t live alone, and found office culture and colleagues to be disruptive.
    I have ADHD. My job tends to be wide but not necessarily deep. A “quick question” can cause me to lose my train of thought, cause me to get disordered while trying to figure what the hell I was doing, get shut down by the frustration, and lose hours in ‘wait mode’ for the next interruption because it took me so long to enter a flow state that I’m fearful I’ll get interrupted again.

    Being able to shut my office door, silence notifications, and focus with music playing in the background has been incredible for me.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I'd be honest. I'd personally love a dedicated WFH day(s) it's truly the best of both worlds

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    Oh, yeah, I've been self-employed from home for years. Go to bed when I want, wake up when I want. I usually get my work done before noon, and have the rest of the day. On the day of an event, I might put in 12-15 straight hours of hard work at a job site, but that's only once or twice a week, and it's actually the fun part of the job.

    I don't miss office politics at all, and it only sounds like it's gotten far worse.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago

    I absolutely prefer working from home.

    I'm a programmer; my ability to work is heavily dependent on my ability to focus and think.

    At home:

    • I decide how quiet it is
    • I decide when to look at or even think about interruptions from email or Slack
    • I have a nice chair, a fancy ass keyboard and expensive mouse
    • I also have a nice 27" monitor and a 34" ultrawide
    • I decide when (or if) to eat lunch
    • If I am eating lunch I have my own fridge, pantry, and numerous restaurants in a short walking distance.

    My office, by comparison:

    • I cannot control the volume of the radio or what it plays
    • I cannot stop people from saying "Hey BozeKnoflook, what..." and just fucking ruining my last two hours of condensed thought and making me waste time getting back into my prior line of thought just to resume my previous state.
    • The chair is acceptable, but I fucking loathe typing on a laptop keyboard
    • The office only offers a 23" monitor to hook my laptop up to
    • Everybody goes to eat in the building's cafeteria at noon, because that is when lunch is served. There are no restaurants or food spots in a short walking distance that are a viable option. I can only eat what the cafeteria offers (and while okay, it's not great food).

    Throw in the time it takes to commute back and forth and... why the hell would I want to work in the office? Sure, throw an occasional event (quarterly meetings, occasional dinner parties of the various teams, whatever) to build personal relations but I am easily far, far less productive in the office than at home.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Working from home for 8 years now and it's the best. I don't need to deal with people I don't like. I can have a comfortable setup with a decent chair and desk and not have to fight for it every day. I have enough free time after work to do whatever I want. I can live wherever I want. There's no downside to it at all.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    I switched my company to WFH in 2012. The advantages are.numerous but it requires discipline in two rarely discussed fronts.

    1. You need to set clearly defined office hours for yourself, otherwise you will always be at work. It helps to have a work dedicated computer that you can shut down at the end of your day.
    2. You need to make an effort to use your increased personal time (no commutes) to to outside, exercise, and most importantly SOCIALIZE. It is very easy to.find yourself a friendless hermit if you do not make the effort.
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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Love it! Clients have better accessibility; lose less of their days in commute, they are now able to see a niche professional state / nation wide, and I can charge 40% less in not having an office.

    At the moment it seems like market forces are pushing me back to an office. I will pass the increased costs to consumers.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    It's alright.

    I'm glad I can take my laptop and essentially work anywhere with a power outlet and an internet connection.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I was working from home for a couple of years and had a mixed appreciation for it. While I was still driving my wife to her job in the morning, it was nice to come home and start my day. Less gas and all that. But not having coworkers around, and not enough separation from the home space sent me stir-crazy often. My wife had a ride home from work since my schedule went past hers, and I would be trying to go places or something after work and she just wanted to chill after her retail management day. But since I was laid off and had to re-enter retail management myself, I wouldn't mind a hybrid situation if I had the choice.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I loved it, I had a lot of tasks that would only require intervention every few minutes so I could initiate a task and then go start laundry or something. At the end of the day I was actually free and not just bogged down with more chores.
    The biggest drawback was not being around coworkers that I actually liked but that same coin meant I didn't have to be around people I didn't like.
    I think if I took another remote job I'd put more effort into having a 3rd place.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Nope, I am an IT guy, I live alone in my two room apartment, and I just can't focus on work when I am working at home.

    Sometimes I have to, but it sucks

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Yes, I don't lose 2-3 hours daily commuting.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I like both. I am allowed to work 4/5 days from home, but I choose to only do 2. I commute to the office by bike in 15 minutes which gives me a fresh start into the day. I can concentrate better in the office. It just doesn't feel nice to me finished my work and moving 2 meter to sit on my couch, I like the feeling of getting home.

    The 1-2 days per week I really appreciate, I usually WFH Mondays and Fridays. I can understand everybody who prefers staying home. However I really see a benefit in seeing your colleagues from time to time, I hate meetings and headphones.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I really like meeting up with coworkers and clients every few months, but almost exclusively because wfh makes me so much more productive that going to talk with people AFTER getting stuff done is very valuable.

    I never thought I would be able to wfh before honestly I just thought I'd spend my career finding places to hide to work.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Yes WFH was the best thing to ever happen to me. Saves 2 hours of commute time per day, I can focus without overhearing four simultaneous conversations in my immediate area, my dogs are with me, I can do chores around the house when there's downtime. The only downside is there's no access to my lab so I still have to go in once in a while. Now that my job is forcing RTO I'm desperately searching for a new WFH position but they're starting to get a little scarce and often don't contact me back after applying.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    I dont. My appartment is small. And i cant focus. I dont have a "hey i am at work" mindset. Because of that i take the way 1 ½ hours to work

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