Which I guess means carbon dating isn't real. Which I guess means our entire understanding of chemistry is wrong. Only possible explanation.

Ah, good to know, thank you

Dang, thats sick. Ive always wondered why that wasnt the default view. Nothing in science contradicts God, although it certainly contradicts a fair amount of the bible. Back when i was alternatively religious, i would commonly argue to my traditionally religious family that evolution doesnt have anything to do with whether God created the world, and that the bible states God made the world for us to explore and utilize. He also said that due to our sin, nothing would come freely, including those tools. I believed medicine was a part of Gods tools he created for us to use. Same with science. Hence my natural conclusion was that God retroactively evolved the creatures around us. He didnt spring them into existance, its fully within Gods power to alter the timeline so they naturally evolved on this planet. Its possible he had simply already evolved them to be ready for us, the guy knows the future.

It was a cool fanfic, but now im wholly athiest for moral reasons.

This is the thing that gets me. Literally the first book of the old testament immediately contradicts itself yet they claim to take it literally. The reality is that very few read the Bible at all other than the passages cherry picked by the preacher to read during the sermon.

Well duh, if they meant metaphorical day, they should have used the hebrew word for metaphorical days.

/s

Which baffled me enough to shut me up, so that guy probably thinks he convinced me.

This seems to happen to me more frequently these days. Sometimes a person will say something so absurd that it just stops me in my tracks and I'm sure they think it means they "won"

Original Hebrew? Anything in Hebrew that is supposedly from the "original" is a translation.

I dont know hebrew, but that does seem plasuable enough to me. My understanding is that different languages have different structures, and therefore its definitely plausible that hebrew has a "literal" structure. Similar to how we say literally, except we use it wrong a bunch.

Of course, I generally doubt anyone that says they know hebrew until they demonstrate it, so i doubt what they said was true, but I could understand how it might've been believable.

On the other hand, show me a universe you made, and I'll be impressed!

When I talk to my boss and tell them it took me 5 days to do something -- my "days" are only about 1 hour.

Works both ways.

Yeah, sadly that same chill Methodist church I grew up in has since slipped down into that literalist BS. When the United Methodist Church changed its stance to allow LGBTQ+ membership, clergy, and marriages in 2024, they decided to split off and just be an independent Methodist church.

I was being fed biblical literalism over 30 years ago in the few years I was forced to go to church age 10-14. Pretty large congregation for a town of 20k with plenty of other churches.

One of the few things they got right was that small children shouldn't be baptized, that a person should decide for themselves after age 13. I decided. I decided hell no.

The story of Job is a great showcase of God being a cunt.

"He devil, you want to see how much I can ruin this guy's life before he hates me?"

I’ve always heard it was satan who did it to trick them

I did ACE. The (barely) fat kid was named Pudge. WTF. Looking back on it now, the educational parts were actually pretty good in places but everything else on top of it was pretty bad

Not ACE specifically. I actually hadn't heard of ACE until you mentioned it.

Most of my peers did some combination of Abeka and Saxon curricula, with a smattering of whatever TF the annual "homeschool convention" had available to sell. And yes, the "science" curriculum always had at least one chapter on how stupid "mainstream scientists" are for believing the universe is more than 6,000 years old. (And some books were nothing but that stretched to the length of a text book.) And those chapters loved to quote Ken Ham and shit. My parents were in some ways less fundie than most of my peers, and they told me to skip that chapter. Lol.

Not sure if this is a joke or not, but I'm an only child.

I was involved in quite a few organizations for homeschoolers, and the "peers" I refer to were kids I knew from those sorts of things:

• I attended a weekly "co-op" ran by homeschoolers' parents where they'd teach various subjects. The one parent who was fluent in Spanish would teach Spanish. The one who was really passionate about history taught a history class. They'd also purchase frogs to dissect and have 20 kids or whatever dissect frogs (because it's a) not so easy to get formaldehyde-preserved frogs in quantites much less than that and b) a lot of the parents just wouldn't want to have to deal with that because it's icky and were happy to have someone else's parents have to deal with that while still ensuring their kids had the experience and learned what there was to learn from that exercise). Things like that.
• I took a few classes at a local private (Christian -- very Christian) school that allowed homeschoolers to attend just one class here and one class there if they and their parents wanted. (The founder of that school had an affair with a secretary. The two of them kindof disappeared and got married, leaving the school without leadership, after which folks started to realize he was kindof a pathological liar and grifter from the start. Heh.)
• I was in a symphony for homeschoolers for a while. (Played violin.)
• There was also a homeschool chess club that I attended for a while.

There were a few other things that I didn't attend but one or two times. Not enough to really get to know anyone there. And I'm probably forgetting one or two things. But you get the idea.

Im largely the same. Im generally a non believer and my sense of spirituality is not tied to any deities, but I don't know that they're not out there so in vwry particular cases I still practife some amount of worship. Mainly at funerals.

I'm sure it's more complicated than that but on the face of it that sounds silly. "Proving" something implies causality, which implies some kind of temporal ordering...

I doubt that's really a consideration when you are literally God

This is part of the basis of a lot of simulation theory from what I understand. The way electrons behave under observation is very similar to the way a computer renders a 3d world. It doesn't calculate or draw everything in the entire environment, simply what is under direct observation by the user(s).

The creative justifications for creationism that try to approach something like science amuse me. Like Kents Hovind and Ham are both too stupid and incurious to be fun; a creationist who’s at least knowledgeable enough to look at “variable c” “”theories”” is entertaining to engage with. That’s part of how I’d justify calling this a “meme” anyway - it’s one of the brighter ones manufacturing a meme to sell to the stupid ones.

I get the definition and extrapolation, but I was wondering if any observable phenomena has occurred. Thanks.

Thanks!