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[–] 131 points 8 months ago (6 children)

That was considered normal behavior for most of human history.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Yeah I was gonna say the same.

    I grew up when you had to actually memorize or write down a phone number, and actually just know how to drive around your own town/city, without a real life, real time minimap (the 90s).

    Yeah, for basically all Millenials and older, this is... completely normal, to occasionally, randomly strike up a conversation with someone.

    Learning how to do that, when its unwelcome and you should probably back off, when its going well and it brightens both your days... that's called 'social skills'.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Think about it.

    There are people reading this thread and having their minds blown.

    Also, remember that the 0.01% send their kids to schools with absolute bans on phones. They know the value of being able to create a connection with another person.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    You can just go, fairly easily, find a compilation video of children, Gen Alpha... well basically just destroying everything around them if you take away their phone or tablet.

    When this all breaks, when internet access becomes exceedingly expensive or otherwise gated, or maybe we just can't afford phones anymore after China stops letting anything with rare earth metals be exported to us...

    Those kids are going to go feral.

    Can't read, can't write, can't think, need constant stimulation.

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  • [–] 47 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I'm a dude though, the circumstances aren't the same, lol.

    But I have, actually, many times. Especially in uni and highschool, I'd be the one to approach the quiet kid cause I just wasn't comfortable with them feeling excluded. I made a really good friend in uni that way, a quiet, very clever and responsible ginger dude (in a country of brown people, he was basically a mythological being, lol) I ended up spending many of my afternoons with, just yapping and toking our late teens away. 🙏

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    My brother was always super shy, so I grew up around it, and know how to a handle it. I've always recognized the shy person, and made sure to speak with them, ask their opinion, etc. They have plenty to say, it just makes them uncomfortable, so they generally appreciate it when someone else makes the approach, and doesn't make any issue out of their shyness.

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Yes, this is how life was before internet. We made friends and talked to people who didn't look up at you bug eyed from 24/7 tik Tok content if you talked to them.

    Young folks are really going to have a tough go of human social interaction. No wonder depression is at an all time high.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Before the Internet people used newspapers and books to avoid interacting with strangers.

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    It was nowhere near as bad as it is now.

    And, at least that could invite conversation about the news or book. You've never seen the book someone's reading and been excited because you like it too?

    Now you have no clue if bobby is watching oann news on his phone (he probably is) or a brianrot tiktok

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I think it was only "better" in the past, because it was far less likely for someone to have things like properly isolating headphones and portable devices that could replay sound. I say better in air quotes, because people who feel an incessant need to fill any silence with mindless small talk were still annoying as hell back then for those of us who just wanted to be left in peace to do whatever we were trying to do before someone decided that they urgently needed to remark "Oh, it's really raining," upon seeing rain out the window of the bus, or what have you.

    I've never had an issue with actually talking to people, mind you, it's just that I find many people in the US have an insanely extroverted approach to conversation and will try to force it no matter the context. If I'm at a concert, or a book club or something, sure, we're there to hang out, have a good time and meet people. If you're trying to make conversation at a bus stop just to make conversation, it's unnecessary. I planned for this downtime, I brought a book with me that I wanted to read. That you didn't plan anything to occupy your time and your mind with doesn't make it my responsibility to entertain you for however long I happen to be next to you.

    Mind you, I'm not opposed to any and all conversation, but to keep with the mass transit theme, I'll give you a recent example of what I'm talking about.

    Guy: "Hey, you're reading a book." Me: "Yes, I am." G: "That book isn't in English." M: "I'm aware, thanks." G: "But then how do you know what it says?"

    On and on for twenty minutes. This sort of vapid conversation that exists only to fill dead air is annoying as hell, and makes me more inclined to just not engage with people. Mind you, I don't hate any and all conversations. I've had other interactions that start from a similar, "Wow, that book you're reading isn't in English," observation, but then transition into something worth sustaining, like if they ask if there are any pointers for studying language, or how they really enjoy books from one country and want to study that language, or something else beyond merely speaking every time they perceive something, to let us know they do, in fact, have functioning sensory organs.

    The whole "Just speak with anyone around you and be super outgoing," approach to social interactions with strangers that's been normalized in the US would be considered pretty weird elsewhere. Sure, people be too lost in social media or games or whatever is a bad thing if people aren't learning how to socialize at all, but I don't think there's anything wrong with people just preferring not to be available for interaction at any time and with anyone, and choosing not to engage with people when they don't want to and have the means to block them out.

    In short, a lot of folks just need to stfu and realize that not everyone wants to constantly talk, and they should learn to discern the time and place for it, rather than imposing their preferences on everyone around them.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Sure, there's those annoying people that no one likes. However I'm saying the norm now is for no one to say a word while everyone stares down at their brain rot videos. Its kind of horrifying tbh.

    People are so addicted now that even me saying something like hey dude, nice jacket, yo, I like your car I have one like it! Makes them whip their heads up in confusion. And I'm not doing this daily, maybe like once every 3 months if I'm feeling outgoing.

    Also, maybe if that person you mentioned socialized more and was more in tune with society, they'd realize people can read books not in English...that story is pretty funny to me actually !!

    We dont need to fill every silence by talking yet we fill every waking moment with micro hits of dopamine from our phones. I stand firm that it is much worse now than ever. I actually force myself to not use my phone in public if I'm waiting for short things and just enjoy the moment instead. Of course, if ts a very long wait I'll perhaps read a book on my phone.

    Thats the other thing, if people were all just reading on their phones and gaining knowledge thats great, but 99% of them are watching brain rot 2 second videos and following bots on x. None of that is good for human brains.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah, phones are far too expensive to swat people away with. Plus, a rolled up newspaper or a book has much more heft.

    You knew not to mess with the person reading Atlas Shrugged, that sucker hurt.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Yes, I do it all the time. Yesterday I greeted a guy in my buildings elevator and commented on the Nat Geo logo on his jacket.

    I then learned he was one of many project managers working on National Geographic Museum about to open in DC.

    So now i stoked to check out the museum when it opens this summer.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Nat Geo was literally the best publication on the planet for over a century. Then Fox bought it, and now every other issue has a Biblical cover. Another case of MAGA destroying anything good in the world.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    The other day my apartment neighbor got the number of the apartment he was looking for wrong, knocked on my door by accident.

    We had a 20 minute conversation about his ball python, and snakes and pythons in general.

    I got to tell him my story of the one time I had to freeze motionless, in the badlands, upon getting close enough to the wrong bush, which let out a very distinctive rattle.

    And he told me about ball python diets, and enclosures, and how, apparently, a male python being used as a breeding stud is a reasonably decent source of income.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Did you go see his snakes?

    A buddy of mine in high school owned a python, not sure of it was a ball. Anyway the first time we hung out was to smoke a bowl and to feed the snake.

    We went to the pet shop, got a mouse and went to his house.

    It was like something out of a horror movie! He dropped the mouse in the tank and it was absolutely terrified. The thing was petrified .

    The snake reared up and struck that snake pose.. and then pounced on the mouse and crushed it to death, and ate the whole thing… it was beyond brutal!

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Unfortunately I am quite crippled at the moment, and would not want to chance accidentally harming the thing with my functional lack of coordination.

    Perhaps when I can handle a bit more hobbling around without the cane, I'll try and meet mr python.

    I have seen and met other pythons before....don't think I've seen one gulp down a terrified, screaming lunch, but I have had an older one ... how would you say, use me as a clothes rack?

    That one, she was well trained and socialized to people; as long as I kept calm and moved slowly, no harm, no danger.

    Quite an experience though, and I'm certain it could smell my fear through my poker face.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    HAHA on the coat rack, I think they like to do that as we are warm blooded and elevated off the ground.

    My buddy would let his wrap itself around his neck while he played his guitar.

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  • [–] 20 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Congrats. Modern society has neutered us to the point where doing something this natural feels exceptionally daring. Of course, there's also those of us who are introverted, for whom walking up to a stranger is a genuine challenge.

    How did it feel ? how freeing ?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I wouldn't even say it's a challenge to talk to strangers. I can do it fine, and do it all day at my job. It's just, I don't feel the desire to do so simply for the sake of doing it. If I'm sat in a park reading a book on a Saturday morning, I can pretty much guarantee you I do not want to talk to people, yet you'll get people who just want to plop down next to you on the bench, let out a sigh and say "Hoo, boy what a week, eh?," and expect you to put down what you were doing to keep the conversation going.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Think about this. When they made the movie 'The Net' in 1995, they showed how oddball Sandra Bullock was by having her order food with her computer.

    In that far off past, even if you were introverted, you couldn't function without doing almost all your transactions live and face-to-face.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago

    I'm guessing you're young? This is exactly how people have met new people for literally millennia. It's only the decade or so that it became problematic. I'm glad you were able to figure it out and take the leap. May you find many new rewarding relationships, short and long term. So long as you respect anyone saying no to your overture, you'll probably find many people are happy to have someone else take the first step.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I struggle to strike up a conversation with people I already know

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  • [–] 17 points 8 months ago

    I can and I do, often when I find people speaking Spanish! (I'm in Australia, I speak a bit of Spanish, and it's uncommon in Australia)

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  • [–] 16 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I think if I did that in my country I'd be carted off to a mental asylum for doing something insane

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    Talking to a random stranger in an environment where random talk is possible yes. (Bus, waiting room, concert, bar, basically anywhere public).
    Going to stranger's s table at a restaurant (not fast food, or shoulder to shoulder) nope.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    I wouldn’t but I think it depends on the culture. In Morocco people would just start chatting to people in the car next to them while they were waiting at traffic lights. They would just chat to everyone.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Yes. And I hate that it's so hard to do now. My generation will always have a phone and earbuds in, and then complain that it's hard to meet people.

    I've gotten in an elevator with people my age and received awkward looks and silence when I make even a small comment.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    Uh yeah this is kind of the human experience

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago

    Pretty normal to just have a chat with someone when you're both out doing the same thing, when I go mountain biking for example I'll often have a chat with someone at the summit or a trail junction.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    I'd like to but I'm scared of people. I also feel like i'm bothering people.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    This is something that you can work through. For the longest time I was unable to figure out that, if I was not bothered when someone striked up a conv with me, then surely... the opposite was likely to be true as well. ofc YMMV because everyone is different, but try it out. Leave your expectations at the door and try it out. Have a good one,

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    You could try talking to older people who didn't grow up with a phone plastered to their face so it wouldn't be weird for them.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)
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    Probably anyone over 40-45 or so who reached adulthood before smartphones became a thing. The first iphone was 2007 and it was still a while before everyone had one and the addictive apps took them over. So even if they had cell phones in their teens or tweens they would only have been talking and texting with their friends on them, IOW socially interacting face to face with people most of the time.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    No, never. I'm too introverted for that.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago

    I talk to the old people at the bus stop while we wait, when My autism is being easy

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I've always worked in retail and sales, and have even owned retail shops, so I long ago got comfortable with chatting with strangers.

    I once went to a big dinner party with a couple of friends, where none of us knew anyone else at the party.

    We sat together, but I barely said a word to my friends. I spent most of my time speaking with people I didn't already know. As we were walking home, one of my friends asked "How do you do that? Just talk to people like that?"

    I hadn't really thought of it before, but all I do is Be Honest. If I know about a subject, I will say it, and even debate it if I have to. But more importantly, if I DON'T know about a subject, I don't pretend to know stuff, and try to fake it. That only makes you look like a doofus. There is no shame in admitting you don't know much about something, but you are curious, and then ask questions, and then follow up questions, so they see that you are really trying to understand, and you are counting on them to teach you. People really appreciate that attitude, especially when it's genuine.

    Even more importantly, I try to avoid subjects I already know about, and can expound upon at length, and try to learn about something new. Someone has an interesting job that I've never experienced? Let's learn about that.

    It's especially effective if I've done both - asked questions about things I don't know about, while also speaking definitively about things I do know about. Then people realize that you are smart, but also a genuinely curious person, who isn't just trying to look important by being a phony.

    Don't be like my dummy uncle, who always has to prove to everybody that he knows more about their job than they do, no matter how educated and experienced they are, and always invents some story where he saved the day, or told off someone in authority. {sigh}

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah exactly! Everything you said. It's definitely curiosity that's key. Just being curious about the people around you. Every single person you pass will see the world through a different window, than you ever can, and the only way to see through their window is to ask them, their view is formed by how they, specifically grew up, and the places they've seen, and knowledge they've absorbed.

    Personally, I pretend I don't know as much about something, because other people's interpretation can give you a better perspective on something, you already know. Probably pretend is too strong a word, I more ask questions from their perspective before saying my perspective. Because if you just make bold statements, people are mostly too polite to correct you. And I find, sometimes people help me add to my knowledge, or help me see I've picked something up wrong, if I phrase things in questions rather than statements.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Now that I'm older, all that conversation serves me well, because I always have an anecdote about nearly anything, even if it's not mine. I don't take credit, I always say, I once met a guy who...

    Not long ago, someone was amazed that I actually had something to contribute to some obscure subject, and somebody else said, "Oh, yeah, that's Barney. He's got a story for everything."

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Shocking what can happen when humanity put down the phone and meet people in real life. Wish this normal behavior will be more commonplace like it used to be. 

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I’ve been a hangout at the coffee shop/bar and casually meet people person for over 20yrs. In the last six months the amount of conversations I’ve had with strangers has shot up exponentially. For the first time in many years it’s reminded me of what the social scene was like when I was in my teens and early 20s at the turn of the century. And it’s not just people my age returning to it, it’s a lot of the 21-25 crowd. I’ve been invited to play darts, join a pool or foosball game, or play some Buck Hunter with a stranger more times this year than I probably was in the past five. It’s nice, a chill night out meeting new people even if it’s a temporary “let’s converse for a bit”.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago

    I remember some years ago I was traveling in a city that I didn’t know and I heard two people in front of me talking passionately about Game of Thrones. We happened to be on the same path, so I just heard the conversation for a bit before I decided to join or not.

    They sounded like good friends who hadn’t seen each other in years. They’d jump back and forth from GoT to very basic questions like “Hey, speaking of brothers, is your brother still dating her?”

    Who would wanna spoil that beautiful moment by interrupting it? Moi ✌️😎 Why? I was alone in the city, they seemed cool, and I’d leave them alone if it felt awkward.

    It turned out to be alright, because I had GoT fresh in my mind and because my very basic questions about them were also a way for them to catch up.

    We walked and talked for hours, before I decided I’d leave them to do their thing.

    When I look back to that memory, I’m glad I decided to join them.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Most normal experience of life before 2005-2010ish.

    The real old school version would have you both become pen pals and mail each other letters a few times a year for decades until one is you died or moves.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    There are a lot of cultures where seating in public is ad hoc, you just sit wherever, you generally don't claim a table or area to yourself. In those situations greetings and socialization are pretty normal.

    I remember going out to eat fast food with a girl and her kid a decade ago and some homeless guy asked if he could sit with us. I said sure, and he was a nice maybe 50 year old guy. He had clearly been around kids and enjoyed the normalcy of just hanging out with the three of us for 30min. The kid didn't mind, but the girl I was dating thought it really weird.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Lol my mom does this alot... especially with other Chinese Diasporas...

    I mostly just keep quiet...

    I mean in K-12 School, I sometimes did that... like those in the same class or sitting in the same lunch table, like there's the common thing of "oh we're both in this shitty situation together", and again, usually those who look Asian, I'd feel more comfortable talking to... idk why... Pan-Asian solitarity vibes maybe?

    Out in the adult world? Oh jeez that sounds like it's gonna trigger my social battery to implode.

    That said, I think I have Outside-world-phobia...

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Yes. Have done so several times, and have had people come up and talk to me out of the blue as well. Sometimes it has gone well. I've had a few good conversations with random people on long distance transport (planes, trains, and such) when I struck up conversations with whoever ended up in the seat next to me, and a few times (more rarely) in grocery stores when I'm having trouble finding something (or vice versa). e.g. got asked about uses for unusual ingredients I was having trouble finding and traded some recipe tips.

    Usually when other people come up to me they just want me to give them money, or join their religion though.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago*

    I remember seeing an amazingly visualised website that was showing a result of an experiment that made people talk with strangers, and it had mostly positive result for most participants, even if they felt uncomfortable or scared at the beginning, and it had gopd results even if people with differenting opinions about i.e politics talked. Unfortunately I can't seem to find it again.

    I don't know if it was part of the same research, but there was also a part where they had people talk to strangers on a bus ride, and it also went well in most cases.

    Sp, talking to strangers is mostly recommended and should be mostly positive, at least statiatically speaking.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    For sure. Especially when travelling. I've gotten into some neat cultural experiences like that.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Last summer I told someone I wanted to talk to them ‘face-to-face’ and he asked me if that was an app :(

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Hope your meet goes well.

    I've lost the art of spontaneous conversation over time. Although I can certainly hold my own if I'm the one being approached.

    Being male and having lived through Slavic and Western cultures... well, no, it was never about those pigeonholes. It's the world changing behind the scenes, growing more insular and silent as we live beyond this physical realm, heads down and choosing the worlds we want to explore, safe within the comfort of the screens.

    But stories are written and friends are made each time I choose to raise my head and look around and just try something. I hope to be brave enough to make that choice more often.

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  • [+] [S] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)
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    That's awesome. I guess he passes the armpit test? Haha

    But seriously that's super cool and we need more of that. Keep your wits about you, naturally. You've got a few hours to kill beforehand so feel free to do some community service with more anxious but based hornyposting ✌🏻

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    [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    In my experience, Asian people are sometimes surprised that non-Asains know certain things about their culture, and are happy to share parts of their culture with someone new.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Probably not, sounds terrifying.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Do it all the time. Are you in line with me waiting to check out at a store, or anywhere really? We talkin'.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    As as an introvert, definitely no. However, when I have an objective, I realize this would be my only method.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    As an introvert, it's actually easier for me to talk to strangers. Fewer attachments, lower risk thresholds, can bail when I need to. Mostly it's jokes or insights, comisseration and comedy are easy roads in.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    Yes. Goodbye

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I'm a introverted Finn. So... nope.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I live in a rural area and I regularly talk to people on my walk. For me they are strangers but apparently I talk to a lot the them regularly. I don't remember faces/names easily so often they address me like a friend and I am clueless.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    Not with the intent to strike up a conversation, but rather to be helpful. Like I might take the initiative to help offer directions or translation, etc. Or I might notice someone hmming and hawing and say, “Get the steak. The quality here is excellent😉.” But it’s not like I’m expecting a conversation lol. Honestly I can do friendly conversations, but I find them a bit like work😅

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Having kids has made random conversations somewhat frequent for me.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Yeah not even necessarily kids but circumstances and friends/family I used to socialize with more often moving or taking on new responsibilities are usually triggers for me to try to meet new friends or just make some acquaintances. Events are good to step outside your comfort zone where people are more receptive to some convo than when they are running errands, busy, etc. Concerts, art and food fairs, book signings, etc. and in those cases you'll probably already have something to start a conversation about more than just jumping in blind like at a bar or something.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago*

    No. Never had that drive or reason that would push me to go talk with random strangers. I'm completely fine being on my own.

    Honestly i really like that social media stopped or at least significantly reduced others doing it as well, it was always kinda annoying.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    That’s how you make new friends!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    No, never. But if you walk up to me that’s probably okay.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    A budding bromance :)

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    I mean im a guy so yeah as nerdy as I am, in my youth, I would walk up to women I found attractive and talk to them. Generally by just saying I found them attractive. It kinda sucks actually. Strike up a co-located person though like in a grocery line or at a bus stop. All the time. Well not as much now that people are on their phones.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    No. I barely talk to people I know and like. I think it's great for those who do (as long as they take a moment to read the room and see if the person they're approaching isn't obviously signaling they do not want people approaching them, such as having on headphones). I do not like to chat face to face.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    every time this happens to me it is a gay man who is hoping to become intimate

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Sometimes. I dont push for it, but am always open to conversations that arise organically

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    If you did that to a Swiss person, they might be weirded out a bit, but I personally think it's a cool thing to do!

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Definitely has happened but not often. It's a lot easier if there's a common ground to start at though.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Huh. Well this is either a sad commentary on the world for young adults or the result of an incel pretending to be the horniest girl in Switzerland.

    If you're real your parents sheltered you far too much. Kinda explains the hyper sexuality though... Hmmm. Good luck on your adventure of self discovery Swiss girl from Archer. Check out Amsterdam. And university, this is how you're going to make friends there.

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  • [+] [S] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    What about random workers at those places? People at restaurants? There really isn't much different. Either way they don't know you. The main difference is you don't know what common ground to talk about and you solved that today with Kpop. Weather is the stereotypical place to start if you have nothing else.

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    [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I came really close last week. Wife and I were on vacation and went to the aquarium, and an old guy was wearing a, "I through hiked the Appalachian Trail," shirt.

    Since it's on my bucket list I wanted to ask him about it, but he was at the dolphin show with his family and I didn't want to see it and be sad.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yeah it's not like I do it all the time, but I do it from time to time. It's a skill that I think is worth learning

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Yes and I have done it a good bit back in the US. Striking up a conversation with a total stranger is a bit frowned upon in the part of Europe where I live now... so I won't

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I would and do and it's no small part of my job besides.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Never because I know somebody doing so to me would stress me out beyond belief so I wouldn't do it to others.

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