Even if penicillin, it tastes awful, and if you don’t need penicillin does it actually help you at all?
I bit bread like this once and I can still vividly taste it.
Even if penicillin, it tastes awful, and if you don’t need penicillin does it actually help you at all?
I bit bread like this once and I can still vividly taste it.
Reminder that, per Wikipedia, aflatoxins - the poisons in molds - "are among the most carcinogenic substances known."
Furthermore, aflatoxin B1 can permeate through the skin and its LD50 can be as low as 300 µg/kg.
not all moulds though, it should be noted
What is this, some mycologistic hate speech?
Which would mean 30 mg of aflatoxin, which would mean eating only out of a bakery dumpster for a year.
Nothing will happen if you eat moldy bread.
But cutting around the mold on cheese is fine, right? Right???
Hard cheeses, yes, if you cut well around it. Soft cheeses, not so much. This, of course, only applies to mold that the cheese grew after you bought it, and not any from its curing. How do you tell the difference? Devilish rhinoceros.
Just eat American cheese. That doesn’t mold cause it’s plastic.
American Cheese is a processed mix of cheeses like Colby and Cheddar, and is great.
Kraft American "Cheese Product" is the square sliced "plastic" one people think of.
I didn’t realize. I was definitely thinking of the cheese product. I would make my kids incredible grilled cheese sandwiches with shredded cheese where it falls off the edge and crisps up on the grill. My kids told me they just wanted kraft cheese slices.
Kraft American Singles is normal american cheese. All american cheese is "cheese product" because its solidified cheese sauce, not a cheese itself.
Let me put it this way: when I get american cheese at my local deli (I like the white) it is delicious and much like eating any other deli cheese. When I get Kraft slices, they are like eating solidified vegetable oil, with weird bubbles and texture, individually wrapped in plastic. Theres a difference.
See if you can find sharp American cheese at your deli. Cooper and Schrieber make a sharp American. Land O' Lakes makes a sharp cheddar American blend. I've had the latter, it was fantastic.
You're getting the labels mixed up.
As a labeling requirement under U.S. law, anything labeled "American Cheese" must be pasteurized process cheese made from some combination of cheddar, colby, washed curd cheese, or granular cheese, which the law also defines pretty strictly. It must be made from these cheeses, heated and emulsified with an emulsifying salt (usually sodium citrate).
American cheese is allowed to have some optional ingredients and still be labeled American Cheese:
You can add milk, cream, buttermilk, whey, or certain other dairy products up to 49% of the finished product, but then you'd have to call it "Pasteurized American Process Cheese Food" instead of just American Cheese.
American cheese is made from almost entirely cheese ingredients. The individual slices being sold at the store, though, vary by brand on whether they're even trying to be American Cheese (or whether they're some kind of lesser "cheese food" or even lesser "cheese spread" or even lesser "cheese product")
Regular Kraft singles aren't American Cheese. Look at the label. They're "cheese product." Even the Deli Deluxe line has taken a hit in quality in recent years, even if they are labeled Cheese.
Go with other brands that actually put together a decent tasting American Cheese, and check the label to make sure it's made with 100% cheese instead of 51% cheese (or less).
I also suspect that Doritos dipping cheese is closer to a fossil fuel than a dairy product. I still eat it though.
Doritos dipping cheese? Is this a thing?
So weird. They don’t have this in America. I wonder if this is anything like Tostitos cheese dip.
https://www.tostitos.com/products/tostitos-salsa-con-queso-2
They did sell it in America at one point, I remember it at the grocery store. Target still has a listing for it. https://www.target.com/p/doritos-spicy-nacho-dips-10oz/-/A-87562774, but it's 'out of stock'
And it comes in tube!
The sodium citrate is a good preservative and is responsible for some of that sour flavor
The fact remains that nothing beats bologna and plastic cheese on wonder bread. (mustard/mayo/whatever)
It's the taste of childhood, really. I still get cravings for the worst fake cheese on the whitest of bleached bread.
As a kid I used to put plastic cheese in between 2 slices of bologna and microwave for like 30 seconds. Then eat on a sandwich. I was thriving.
The real trick is the bologna grilled cheese. Brown the bologna in your skillet, then (wipe out skillet if need be, and) make a grilled cheese as usual, but put the bologna in the middle before you close it.
I have an ex that did this well into his 20s,and convinced me to try it one night. I did not understand the appeal lol
It depends on the cheese, sometime the mold is the cheese.
Like Roquefort, it literally use moldy bread as a starter.
The process of making Roquefort starts by adding mold on rye bread, let the mold develop before blending the bread and mixing it into the raw milk.
Okay, but how many times did he not keel over?
Some of those times, he probably ingested enough ergot alkaloids to see God.
And how mouldy was it, sounds like this guy was just eating the entire thing. Not just cutting the visible bit off. Dosage is an important factor in poisoning. Small quantities of cyanide are completely fine to consume.
how do we even know it was the bread? maybe it was vaccine poisoning
If you can see mold on part of bread that's wrapped up, that means there's probably microscopic growth that's already spread past the part you see to other sections. Cutting the big part won't help you. The whole thing needs to go, it's contaminated.
That's life living with a human garbage disposal. They will eat anything. They'll acknowledge the five second rule only in so much as it's their inside joke when they eat a chunk of cake that fell on the floor at least 20 minutes earlier and miraculously escaped the canine detection system. It's bizarre having to justify throwing away 30 cents worth of cookies that were molded because "I would have still eaten them just not the moldy parts." but that and similar conversations are being had regularly.
So I can't actually find anything from a quick search that tells me what "bread poisoning" is. Searches show results for both moldy bread as well as ergotism. Just about every source on the Internet tells me that eating a bunch of moldy bread should just give you a bad case of shits or vomits. But if someone is immunocompromised or has gut issues it could be worse.
But if this was ergot poisoning that's different and doesn't have much to do with ordinary bread mold.
I have read that mold can be dangerous because it can cause cumulative damage in the body over time.
I don't have a source, hopefully I'm not regurgitating some bs.
Oh, I've been cutting the visible mold off for years. Same applies to things like jam (jelly). Spoon out the mouldy bit, then crack on.
Should I be ded?
You actually died 6 years ago, this is purgatory.
Shit that actually makes a lot of sense
Does it?
The world I'm in, I can practically see the flames licking at my feet......
The rule is that if its soft food as bread or jelly, its all compromised and should be thrown. If its hard like cheese, you can cut the mold and consume since the mold probably didn't get that far inside
If there is visible mold on a part of a surface, then it's reasonable to assume that a much larger part of that surface already has mold, it's just not visible yet. Bread is basically a sponge, the surface of a sponge is the entire sponge, so that mold can have spread everywhere in the bread.
I found this overview which looks right to me: https://www.eatingwell.com/article/91553/4-moldy-foods-you-can-eat-plus-which-foods-to-toss/
Should you be dead from eating mold? I suspect that it's a lottery with many factors: which types of molds that you have eaten, the quantities, your immune system, ... But keep at it and eventually you might win a price.
For marmelade / jam / jelly it depends on the sugar contents. I don't know how much it has to be but if it has high enough sugar contents, you can indeed take off the mould generously and eat what is under it. That said - gross! Just don't let foods spoil. Buy what you need and plan ahead a bit.
But jam comes in jars of a minimum size and sometimes it goes mouldy before finishing.
The key part is that your immune system is used to various mold and parasite infections and you're fine, but if you become immune compromised or old then the same thing you did before can kill you. That's why people who actually get infected with things like water born parasites are usually very old or sick.
In with you and I'm still alive. Food is too expensive to throw out.
There are worst ways to die than keeling over after eating. I'll take it.
Food is so weird. Bread becomes toxic waste after 8 minutes of being opened, but there's probably some cheese species that gets fermented up the asshole of a mountain llama for 6 months, being stuffed back in after every bowel movement, and is still edible (if you're into that sort of thing) after 400 years of being left in a dank cave amongst the frothing remains of a rotting gerbil cemetery.
Cheese is weird because someone had to be like, well let's go ahead and store some milk in the stomach of an animal, but also they forgot about it under a chair for 3 months and then, upon finding it, thought, "well let's have a go anyway, despite it changing forms." And then eventually someone realized if you stuck it in certain caves it became delicious. So much human history just in that one food product there.
I think one theory is that it was central Asian horse-riding societies who started carrying milk on horseback, in saddlebags made out of animal bladders. The motion of the riding and the rennet left in the bladders churned the milk and turned it into cheese.
I remember also reading on a science magazine's site this possibility that the first cheese made by humans was more of yeast-based preparation, without animal milk, but i can't find the article mentioning that anymore.
Isn't it butter if it's churned?
It is but adding renet causes the milk fat to coagulate. Once that is done 90 degrees abpit the right temp for most cheese. The action of it moving it will cause tue curds to be broken down. The problem with this theory is the whey. Part of cheesemaking is removing the curd from the whey to allow the moisture to be removed. In a sealed vessel it cant go anywhere.
There's a reindeersheep cheese that is considered a delicacy that has actual maggots in it. Another orange cheese that has fucking mites! I don't mind my stinky cheese, but I'm not eating anything moving.
Casu marzu, "rotten cheese", NSFL. This is sheep's milk, not reindeer, but still. Horrifying.
Whilst I don't eat mouldy bread intentionally (as in, it will have happened without me noticing on occasion) what's the actual potentially bad thing that happens if one does? Specifically?
There are more types of fungus than any other type of life. Lots of them are mostly harmless. Some of them are a little toxic. Some others are very much toxic. Some others will cause allergies, fungal infection, rare metabolic disorders or all together.
It's the worst kind of lottery, most likely nothing will happen but if something happens it will be pretty uncomfortable. IT IS NOT WORTH IT!
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