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ok? do it. the only snow birds I know that still have property down there are all maga wannabes. everyone else sold their properties. so stick them with the bill. piss off the LAST Canadian allies you have left.
Are they really this dumb? Like how do they see this working?
Are they really this dumb?
They may not be, but they know their voters are this dumb
They don't. What this will do is give their Florida supporters some red meat. Meanwhile, income will drop and they will have to make "unfortunate" decisions like gutting any state funded education, make more cuts to grants for the poor and elderly, kill off any housing assistance, and generally make sure the population in Florida is uneducated and poor (thus keeping their base intact).
"Snow Birds" should have flew the coup as soon as Homeland Security started shooting protestors.
For years, Canadian owned property in FL has had a surtax. Primarily due to property tax increases being capped at 3% for "real Floridians" that skyrocket to "normal rate"+ high annual increases, when a Canadian buys the home.
Good, fuck snowbirds.
I don't have sympathy for the guy having a second home complaining he has to pay more tax. There is an easy solution
Wonder if there is going to be a spree of arson for the insurance so some of the remaining snowbirds get out.
Hahaha, this is especially a great idea to entice the rich folks from New York who were telling everyone that Mayor Mamdani was going make them flee to Florida. /s
If you're Canadian and you still have property in Florida by that point, that's on you.
If you look at who is pushing for and against it, then it becomes more interesting. It's like this, the people arguing that it will cut funds aren't lying, it's just it will directly affect them. Some of these officials that press against the amendment that are in office make $250k to $400k+ and that doesn't include all the other perks they get so they will do anything to keep their pay. The budget expenses have went up roughly 50% in the last six years. Yet there's always a shortage. Florida is as corrupt as it gets. There's also a lot of misinformation.
The dangus of a governor is great at pissing everyone off.
Listen, nobody loves paying property taxes, but you know what's worse? Your house burning down and nobody is there to put it out. There's a reason everyone pays taxes.
No you don't get it. If you don't pay taxes you can pay twice as much when you need emergency services. That way you'll be super free.
Private sector fire departments.
Would this be a subscription model? Something similar to property taxes?
It's happened in the past. If you don't pay their exorbitant fees they let your house burn down.
Basic - $9.99 a month, if your house is on fire they bring a garden hose and use your water well.
Medium - $19.99 a month, they bring a garden hose and a tank of water.
High - $29.99 a month, they bring more than one hose and person.
Extreme - $99.99 a month, they bring a truck.
If you miss a payment you need to resubscribe with a $1000 basic beginner fee.
But but but, you got to think of the insurance companies. If a house burns down how are the insurance companies to bend the home owner further over the barrel?
Capitalism you have to keep that in mind!
It will just be required to hold and when it burns all the way down they will write it off as a total loss, and you will be forced to continue paying
So the insursance companies will still be charging the displaced people who need to break into other places to feed themselves and/or children, they will then take things to sell so that they can pay for that insurance because employement will be hard to keep or get without a perminate address. Than those people will need to pay for the replacements of stolen items, insurance does not cover 100% of stuff and their insurance raits will go up!
Capitalism, you got to remember them rich people need to get richer!
Get out of Florida, they hate Canadians there.
"We're gonna fill the potholes and make Canada pay for it!" - hmm, sounds familiar..
The problem for Floridian homeowners isn't the property taxes, it's the insurance. The property taxes are there for a reason - to fund schools, fire, police, etc, and everybody is cool with that, although some are so greedy, they'll STILL vote to abolish property taxes, even if it means there's nobody to vacuum up the tweakers and crackheads breaking into your taxless home.
The homeowners insurance problem is keeping people from buying houses, even if they could afford it. There is already a lot of excess inventory on the market in Florida, and there's expected to be a LOT more over the next year, so prices aren't going to be the problem, the thing that going to keep people from buying is the inability to find reasonably priced insurance.
David Jolly, Democratic candidate for governor has a plan, but the MAGA did their own study, in which they characterize his plan as a tax, and now they're running ads, claiming that a "recent study' (without calling their own) called it a tax, and so now they have the rationalization to claim that Jolly wants to raise your taxes. No he doesn't, he wants to figure out a solution to the serious homeowners insurance problem in Florida, something the MAGAs stubbornly refuse to even acknowledge, no less try to fix it. They just want to shit on the only plan that anyone is proposing.
This is the truth. When I moved out of FL a few years ago my home owners insurance had gone up over 900% in the thirteen years I had owned that home. It was ludicrous. I know many retired people that just don't have home owners insurance anymore as they could no longer afford it on a fixed income. Their homes are paid off so they aren't legally required to have it, so they are just YOLOing it. It seems insane to me considering all the flooding and hurricanes, but it's no longer my circus.
This is sort of a funny article. They want to focus on making it some kind of attack on Canada but the principle itself--shifting the tax base from ordinary homeowners to absentee or seasonal property owners makes some sense. Although if I were a Floridian I would have some concern whether there is enough revenue to make up the shortfall.
According to Realtor.com data, Canadians represent more than 70 per cent of international demand in the Cape Coral metropolitan area, which includes McGill's community.
These Canadian homeowners basically live there half the year. A lot of them have been living there for decades.
All this Trump shit has already caused many of these Canadians to fuck off. If this passes, that'll be the end of it.
They won't have any Canadians to make-up for the loss revenue.
Louisiana has the highest GDP per capita. This is usually a surprise because the State seems so poor. The reason is that the legislature can wave property tax for industry. What that means is that all that money flows into the pockets of big oil while their schools, roads, and hospitals suffer.
I'd also consider the wisdom of gouging your main industry at a time when tourism is already on the decline. Fuck Canada is a pretty weird hospitality messaging.
Be careful what you wish for Florida.
Louisiana has the highest GDP per capita. This is usually a surprise because the State seems so poor
I found that incredibly shocking, because I was pretty sure they were below average. I looked it up and after checking 5 sources, I can't find even a single one that put them in the top 10, let alone the top slot
Can you provide a source for your fact? If not, it looks like you were mistaken
They definitely have a relatively high income inequality. It looks like their nominal GDP per capita is below the national average, though.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP
Just sharing info for discussion, in case that's helpful. I think we're on the same side of this issue.
Yeah, Iβm having a hard time being upset about this. Of course, it depends on the FL and municipal governments having correctly done the revenue math and being responsible enough to handle the transition and long-term spending well enough, which are probably pretty tall orders for them.
This could just be a poorly planned play to cut services, in disguise.
"It's not that we don't like it. We're just uncomfortable now. We'll always love the U.S. They'll always be our neighbours. They will always be friends. That's a choice we can make. But we can also choose not to fall down the rabbit hole of what's going on over there right now," she said in an interview.
"I don't like rabbit holes."
What an incredibly kind, Canadian response. Makes me feel even worse for how the US government and American people are treating Canadians
Floridian here....
This plan is just wrong. If lawmakers wanted to help normal folks, they would do the homestead exemption for Primary Residences only and tie that plan with an increase in taxes for all homes that are not a primary residence.... Thus would help normal folks and place the burden on those with multiple homes and companies that own large number of homes used as rentals.
Higher taxes on those would encourage the sale of homes back to normal folks who need good housing.
If passed, Florida "homesteaders," as permanent residents are called, will see a dramatic increase in an existing property tax exemption.
Doesn't the words "permanent" and "homesteader" mean primary residents? What am I missing?
Sure, but a permanent resident may have more than one residence, and the law didn't restrict the benefit to one property per person.
The problem for Floridian homeowners isn't the property taxes, it's the insurance. The property taxes are there for a reason - to fund schools, fire, police, etc, and everybody is cool with that, although some are so greedy, they'll STILL vote to abolish property taxes, even if it means there's nobody to vacuum up the tweakers and crackheads breaking into your taxless home.
The homeowners insurance problem is keeping people from buying houses, even if they could afford it. There is already a lot of excess inventory on the market in Florida, and there's expected to be a LOT more over the next year, so prices aren't going to be the problem, the thing that going to keep people from buying is the inability to find reasonably priced insurance.
David Jolly, Democratic candidate for governor has a plan, but the MAGA did their own study, in which they characterize his plan as a tax, and now they're running ads, claiming that a "recent study' (without calling their own) called it a tax, and so now they have the rationalization to claim that Jolly wants to raise your taxes. No he doesn't, he wants to figure out a solution to the serious homeowners insurance problem in Florida, something the MAGAs stubbornly refuse to even acknowledge, no less try to fix it. They just want to shit on the only plan that anyone is proposing.
IIRC Canada actually does have some similar taxes targeting foreign homeownership, though the reasons driving it are a lot more substantial than in Florida: you had people out of China who had purchased a bunch of Chinese real estate noticing the bubble and shifting out, buying up property in Canada or the US instead.
I'd guess that it probably impacts Americans, as I believe it targets all foreigners.
searches
https://www.taxesforexpats.com/country-guides/canada/non-resident-property-tax-canada.html
Sounds like it.
What about all the USians that own second homes in FL? Wonβt they pay also?
Why Canadian Snow Birds havenβt sold their vacation homes in the US yet is a mystery, hopefully this passes and there is another exodus.


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