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[+] 111 points 5 months ago (5 children)
  • [–] 59 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    American Christianity punishes all ideas of enjoying sex, even among animals.

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  • [–] 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 child)

    But not between priests and altar boys, it seems

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago

    To be fair that's just Catholicism and not American Christianity ™®©.

    Don't get me wrong, American Christianity ™®© has its share of pedophiles, possibly even more than catholicism, however it's usually straight because they just believe younger girls are more fertile.

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  • [–] 130 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    Who was punishing birds for masturbating in the first place? Why!?

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  • [–] 75 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    Researchers historically tended to assume birds either did not masturbate or did so only under the stress of captivity ... Accounts from hobbyists revealed that some owners had sought veterinary help when they caught their birds masturbating, fearing the animals might hurt themselves.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I would have just assumed they were preening...

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  • [–] 43 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    People are HORRIBLE with birds. Even the ones that pretend to love them treat them like trash.

    And then there's the fuckers that think that their views of the world matters more than anything else, and will punish masturbation because animals don't feel pleasure so it shouldn't be allowed, will punish them for having gay couples because gay shouldn't exist and especially not in animals (else how can you say your main homophobic argument of "gay is unnatural, only degenerate humans do it"), will starve them for "training" purposes, and don't get me started on the diets, environment safety and cage sizes.

    There's a reason why the life expectancy of birds doesn't increase in captivity. People are really, really horrible with birds, and the more I read about people who "care" about birds the worse I feel for their birds.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Being gay is unnatural, that's why you never saw a gay goat!

    Actually, goats are unnatural. But you never saw a gay frog!

    Actually, that's Big Pharma making the frogs gay. But you never saw a gay bird!

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Gay isn't something one can see.

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  • [–] 60 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    An investigation into acts of self-pleasure among parrots and other birds has reached a climax, with the results providing welcome relief for vets and researchers, not to mention the birds themselves.

    Asked if they showed any signs of self-loathing or Catholic guilt, Heys thought not. “I don’t want to say satisfied, but they do look different after they finish. It’s obviously doing something for them.”

    Someone was having a little too much fun with this article.

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  • [–] 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

    A bird wrote this

    PS: Article delivers

    An investigation into acts of self-pleasure among parrots and other birds has reached a climax

    Typically, males would be “rubbing quite vigorously” on their perch, a toy or a twig, or on their owner’s hand, foot or shoulder

    Freaky ass birds.

    Hold up. If a bird is bonded to you, and it does it, does it even count as baitin'? Sounds more like it's trying to mate with its mate. Or is bird-jacking fundamentally different? Bird experts... pitch in.

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  • [+] 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago (2 children)

    Can you explain why a bird bonded to you from early childhood would also be sexually attracted to you? To humans in general I could understand but why to you, the "parent"? Are birds less opposed to incest?

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    There's a difference between incest and inbreeding. Opposition to incest, that is sex for pleasure among family members, is a moral position, and apparently unique to humans.

    Inbreeding, sex for reproduction, is blocked on a biological level more strongly in some species than others, but it still happens, of course.

    In humans, and perhaps other species, there is sometimes sexual disinterest in closely related family members, but this is not "opposition to incest", and certainly is not universal.

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  • Well yeah, inbreeding is what I meant. Didn't actually know there was a difference.

    Still, I've read that many animals prefer not to fuck/breed with relatives. Except some pigeons in cities apparently, they prefer their relatives if Wikipedia and my memory of that article is to be believed.

    Better phrasing would've probably been "Lack of sexual interest in family".

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Not an expert, but I've witnessed something like this. Step mom turned into a strange bird person for her midlife crisis, got an African grey that absolutely hates all females including her, but loves all dude. It dude puff up and squat on your shoulder, but it wouldn't rub anything. Maybe it's different for male birds.

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  • [–] 44 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I'm sorry people are out trying to punish birds?

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Look, man, I wasn't punishing them I just didn't have anything to feed them but cornflakes. I am not John Kellogg; I didn't think that shit actually would stop anyone masturbating. 🤷‍♂️

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Perfect timing, I'll have to print out a copy of this article for the court as part of my defense in an upcoming case where it's relevant.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Who would punish them? 😭

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  • [–] 21 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I dont care if it's natural. im not removing the "no masturbating" sign from our bird feeder.

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  • [–] 18 points 5 months ago

    I used to have budgies, one of the males used to chat up his (male) friend whilst perched on my head... and then he'd start grinding away while still on my head

    Fortunately he never left a deposit

    Freaky little (head) fucker

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  • [–] 16 points 5 months ago

    efforts to intervene, which range from removing perches to hormone treatment and surgery

    wtf :(

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  • [–] 15 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I believe the politically correct term is "Women". They tend to bitch a lot when you call them "birds".

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    I still do it the old-fashioned way and call them "chicks".

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Oh dude broads hate it when you call 'em chicks

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago

    Sounds like a good candidate for an Ig Nobel Price.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Funny how they picked the most pervert-looking bird for the article photo.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    Birdkeepers punish birds? That's a new thought lol

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  • [–] 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    If you’ve ever seen a bird masturbate, you absolutely know what that bird is doing.

    Hilarious statement. So if I have never seen a bird masturbate, I would not know what the bird is doing? Wow.

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    Then why do I keep getting punished every time I masturbate among birds?

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Who the fuck is researching this and what is the process of their information gathering?

    Just a bunch of scientists sitting around watching birds goon all day going "ya, this seems perfectly natural!"

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    My masturbation ain't natural and mommy should punish me for it

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Let the little birdies just Beat it!

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Just wait until the GOP (grand old parrots) learn about this.

    I'll see myself out.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Why would anyone punish birds for jacking off?

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    [–] 51 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Have people been out there punishing birds for jorking it?

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  • [–] 19 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I'll copy the comment I put on another place:

    People are HORRIBLE with birds. Even the ones that pretend to love them treat them like trash.

    And then there's the fuckers that think that their views of the world matters more than anything else, and will punish masturbation because animals don't feel pleasure so it shouldn't be allowed, will punish them for having gay couples because gay shouldn't exist and especially not in animals (else how can you say your main homophobic argument of "gay is unnatural, only degenerate humans do it"), will starve them for "training" purposes, and don't get me started on the diets, environment safety and cage sizes.

    There's a reason why the life expectancy of birds doesn't increase in captivity. People are really, really horrible with birds, and the more I read about people who "care" about birds the worse I feel for their birds.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Tell that to my wife. She has these animals that I think are virtually going to be immortal. Our cockatoo is well into his 40's as best we can tell.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I mean, big parrots can easily live 70 years. But that's not a bad thing, I'm always confused with people who want their pets to die fast.

    But on average, parrots kept as pets die rather fast compared to how long they can live. Most people with cockatiels have them die before they are 20, even though they can live at least up to 35-40. But then again, you see how people take care of them and it's no surprise that they die fast.

    If your cockatoo lives long and healthy, it's a positive thing, and it means that you and your wife are taking proper care of him. But you should hope for him to live a healthy hundred years!

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    yeah thats me. We are kinda unwilling parents as we inherited it from my father in law (before he died he just got to bad to take care of it). The little guy is a curmudgeon and kinda hates men (or just likes girls more) and we have a funny kind of competitive relationship. He struts in front of me and sometimes I back away to make him feel good. I just joke he is going to live forever and that he is might white angel of death over my shoulder.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I would love to find out but the article is paywalled unless you accept their cookies

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago

    An investigation into acts of self-pleasure among parrots and other birds has reached a climax, with the results providing welcome relief for vets and researchers, not to mention the birds themselves.

    Bird keepers are often advised to discourage and even punish birds for masturbating, but the study found the activity was more common in the wild than in captivity, with researchers concluding it is part of a bird’s natural behaviour.

    The report’s authors urged vets to reassure worried owners that the antics are not harmful and warned that efforts to intervene, which range from removing perches to hormone treatment and surgery, could be far more damaging.

    “Our big finding is that masturbation is not a negative response to captivity,” said Dr Chloe Heys, an evolutionary ecologist at the University of Lancashire in Preston. “This is widespread in birds and we found it’s a perfectly natural and healthy behaviour that’s part of their repertoire of sexual behaviours.”

    Researchers historically tended to assume birds either did not masturbate or did so only under the stress of captivity. But Heys said the behaviour was quite common and distinctive. “I had a pet cockatiel that masturbated all the time,” she said. “If you’ve ever seen a bird masturbate, you absolutely know what that bird is doing.”

    The team surveyed bird experts and online communities of bird keepers, breeders and enthusiasts, and combined their accounts with others published in scientific literature. In total, they collected data on 120 bird species, captive and wild.

    Avian onanism is widespread among species, including parrots, ducks, turkeys and chickens, and more common in the wild than in captivity, the survey found. Slightly more accounts mention males, but females were by no means exempt.

    Typically, males would be “rubbing quite vigorously” on their perch, a toy or a twig, or on their owner’s hand, foot or shoulder, Heys said. Females tended to lift their tail and back on to convenient objects.

    The activity was sometimes accompanied by wing flapping and vocalisations not typically heard from the birds. Asked if they showed any signs of self-loathing or Catholic guilt, Heys thought not. “I don’t want to say satisfied, but they do look different after they finish. It’s obviously doing something for them.”

    Accounts from hobbyists revealed that some owners had sought veterinary help when they caught their birds masturbating, fearing the animals might hurt themselves. In turn, some vets had suggested disrupting the behaviour, by removing perches and toys and not stroking the birds in certain spots.

    “In really extreme cases, vets would give the birds drugs or hormonal therapies to stop them doing this,” Heys said. “There have even been cases of surgery to completely de-sex birds, which is bonkers.”

    "Vets shouldn’t be advising owners to stop birds doing this unless it’s obviously caused a chronic problem like a prolapse, but that’s the absolute minority of cases,” Heys added. The study’s findings have been published in the journal Ecology and Evolution.

    Dr Ana Basto, a vet at the University of Lancashire who was not involved in the study, said the report would help vets give better advice to bird owners. “This research is pivotal and will be a step towards achieving a more holistic understanding of why and how birds behave the way they do.”

    Dr Matilda Brindle, an evolutionary biologist at Oxford University and the study’s co-author, said the work added to a growing body of literature that highlighted how non-reproductive sexual behaviours occurred across the animal kingdom.

    “The fact that masturbation seems to be even more common in wild birds than those in captivity has huge implications for their welfare, especially given that folk husbandry often advises bird keepers to discourage or punish this behaviour, sometimes even resorting to surgery and hormonal interventions,” Brindle said.

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  • [–] 17 points 5 months ago

    Listen, I'm not being judgemental about what you do with your cloaca. I don't understand the thing in the first place.

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  • [–] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Reminds me I had a WanKer Kellogg’s breakfast today. Poor birds affected by this culture.

    OTOH TIL “onanism” what a fun word.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The etymology is crazy. An old talmudic story about refusing to nut in your dead brother's wife

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    These men. The sin was not cumming on the ground, you idiots, or using his (careful grammar) dead brother’s wife as an onahole (super twisted to use this as analogous to masturbating)…

    But greed! For in doing so, inheriting for himself in preference of his brother’s wife and her potential offspring!

    It’s all BS, but still, how.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Why are people being told to punish birds for masturbation? What kind of sickness is that?

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago

    But what if my bird likes being punished while masturbating?

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