I am one of the few lucky ones to actually get an Ouya... It wasn't great.
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Xbox One. Everytime I booted it up to feed the Halo crave, there’d be an update that took like an hour. Finally get on… Halo needs to update. 1 hour later, I’ve lost interest.
Repeat 6+ months later.
I quit getting consoles after the PS3 and Xbox 360 and I made the right decision. The PS4 and XBone were painfully slow, had horrid load times, and everything was expensive. Watching my friend play Monster Hunter drove me insane, like five minutes of loading per hunt!
An hour progress in Morrowind, so caught up I forgot to save. Red ring.
I owned a fucking Virtual Boy. Do I really need to explain why I was disappointed?
I tried one in the local shop and couldn't see why anyone would want that shit.
And I bought one cheap while on a trip to the US (being European). Was happy I got this curiosity cheap. Worth it for me.
Yeah I can see buying it as a curiosity, but did any kid ever actually ask to go home so they can play their Virtual Boy?
And, holy shit, they're going for a decent price on eBay.
I wouldn't call any console I own a disappointment, even the Wii U had several games I loved and put too many hours into. But the system I ended up playing the least was the Steam Deck. It's just too bulky to feel like a proper portable, not nearly as cozy as the Nintendo handhelds I grew up on. I get some use taking it to FGC events as a monitorless setup (and I will be bringing it to Combo Breaker 2026 next week), but that's kinda all I ended up using it for.
I still don't regret buying it as the most important thing to happen to Linux gaming, but it was a system I bought to have more than to use. I later bought a Miyoo Mini Plus and ended up putting far more hours into that than I ever did the Deck. If anyone ever gets SteamOS running on a device in that size form factor, they'll get my entire bank account.
I acknowledge the Steam Deck is an important step forward for PC gaming, but I just didn't get enough use out of it to justify the purchase. I ended up giving mine to my friend whose only gaming option prior to that was a shitty old laptop. At least now we can play stuff together that's been made in the last decade.
PS3. Coming from the PS2, the library was bland in comparison. And later on, when I got interested in console modding, the PS3 was the slowest and most cumbersome to do anything and with barely any variety of homebrew stuff. And also, I'm dreading having to replace the controller (due to the 3rd party PS button situation) and replacing the HD (due to how entangled pieces apparently are).
Later on, it'd become an overpowered PS2 console for me.
PS3 was on one the best consoles ever released tho
Maybe the library was meh (I didn’t really notice it) but from a hw it was peak. It was famously sold at a loss based on how much power it had
Probably the virtual boy. It was so cool at the time, I got Red Alert(?) and it was fantastic. Then there was like, a bowling game, and maybe a wario game? And nobody made anything else for it, and it sat in a drawer for years before my parents made me get rid of it. It could have been so good.
there were only 14 titles released in the US
Shit it was red alarm, dang it.
Also, that number sounds about right lmao, it was so bad
Yup came here to say this. Had Mario tennis and I’m sure some other game but yeah not a lot of games. However it did cause a lot of headaches.
But otherwise I mean, I’ve not bought anything I would say is disappointing but also I haven’t bought any current gen bullshit.
WiiU was maybe a little closer to a disappointment? But more so because it wasn’t as popular. I absolutely loved the 2nd screen for shit like shoving the UI for MH3U on there so I could look at it while keeping the main screen clear.
Aw I came for this answer. I was fortunate to see through the BS because I was very immersed in the tech at the time, but the VB genuinely had cool potential and I wanted it to succeed so it could lead to new generations of full-color VR (which took like another 2+ decades).
Honestly, my gaming laptop. Bought a few years ago, 3050. It was good and I could play games on it - but I live in a situation where all my electricity is solar generated and limited, charges 12v batteries and runs mains appliances via inverter. And the laptop was just too power hungry for long gaming sessions.
It was more a failure of me to properly research than a problem with the product, but was a let down. Bought a steam deck and never looked back.
I get a nervous inhalation each time an acquaintance asks me for advice in buying a gaming laptop.
Their computing world started with laptops, and they want to extend the idea. It’s so hard to express to them it’s generally not a good one.
I bought a gaming laptop around 2005. You could anchor a ship and melt the polar ice caps with it. I don't think I ever installed a single game on it.
The Sega Game Gear. That sucker could drain six AA batteries in about three hours. Do you know how hard it was to find a place to buy AA batteries on Christmas day?
While a rechargeable battery pack fixed that problem, most of the games were garbage compared to the GameBoy. The first party games were the best, but most everything else was 'meh.'
I never did get that TV tuner add-on either.
I think one saving grace for the Game Gear was that you could also play Master System games using an adapter, if I remember correctly?
You might be thinking of the Sega Nomad, which was made explicitly to pay the full size cartridges. My dad had one for a while and it was the Game Gear turned to 11, flaws and all. Huge, hot, heavy, and devoured batteries. It was a cool concept on paper but nobody wanted to spend hundreds on it to play Sonic the Hedgehog on a tiny screen with a giant warm brick as a controller.
Probably the Sega 32X. The messaging around it was kind of confusing, and still being fairly young when it came out, I was expecting it to be the gateway to 32 bit gaming that I would be enjoying for years to come. I ended up getting virtua racing on it, which was better than the Genesis version, but nothing spectacular really. I also got virtua fighter, which was a genuinely good game. Almost everything else was ports of mediocre games that had already come out on the Genesis. A couple of original games like knuckles chaotix just... Kinda sucked. Then when I found out that all of the support was going behind the Saturn, and that's where all of the new and original games were going, well I just felt swindled.
I was pretty disappointed after getting a Switch 2 when I found out that Nintendo had blocked all video streaming apps on it. Even apps like Pokemon TV, which had transferred from my Switch 1 during account migration, were blocked from opening despite being downloaded on the device.
Nintendo Switch
I've never really clicked with the Switch and we've had one since launch. It's not all bad, handheld and home console in-one is a pretty cool concept, but it underwhelms in all ways. Also browsing the eShop is painfully slow too.
The Switch.
Damn thing was fragile af, and they wanted to rent everything to us, no more Virtual Console no more solid hardware, they spend more money suing people for fixing it then they do on it like blocking local backup of saves so they can force a cloud sub and them still not having fixed the drifting JoyCons then charging you more than they are worth for repairs.
This is my answer too. As soon as I read the question it just hit me. I only had a lite. Never the big one. The thing was fragile. It always felt like I was gonna break it even just holding it in my hands. I babied the fuck out of that system. I really enjoyed the games I had for it. I played it quite a bit. It's just that the system itself was kinda jank. The lifeless interface, the slow store, the slow games that pushed the hardware too far. Just bleh. Then Steam Deck came out and it blew it out of the water in every way possible.
The Steam Deck with Eden on it plays Switch games better than my Switch, move up to a more powerful Ally X or a full computer...
Yeah my PC is part of the reason the Switch was so disappointing too. I really wanted a handheld so I didn't have to sit at my desk. Turns out I sat at my PC way more than I ever turned on the Switch. Outside of the exclusives it was a really redundant system.
Sadly Xenoblade doesn't play well on emulation, the only exclusives I lost, I was kinda miffed about losing my Animal Crossing island after having spent hundreds of hours building it and raiding forums for island visit codes of people with rare items in the shop but it is what it is when the greey company locks your saves on internal memory and sues the guy who dropped the code to copy them.
That and surprisingly Breath of the Wild always crashes my PC after a while. I don't know what is causing the crash other than possibly a spike in memory that freaks the GPU out. Luckily Unicorn Overlord doesn't do that and that game looks a million times better on my PC. It upscales really nice.
The weird one I get is DQ XIS, if I launch it in 2D mode it plays perfectly, but if I swap to 3D it crashes hard, like my whole computer has frozen up and I run Linux so that's not normal.
I miss Xenoblade, and I'm mad I bought special editions of the whole series only to be unable to play them now, but that's a few hundred bucks lost vs all the money spent buying three Switches only to have them fail and losing saves because you can;t back them up yourself and Nintendon't sued the guy who wrote the code that let you to push their shitty cloud nobody asked for.
I've been off Sony for a while, as well, because getting ads on the home screen was a big "Nope!" for me, but when I left they had a better cloud system, but you could still plug in a USB device and backup your saves to it without PS+. No idea if they broke it as well, but Nintendo has always been at the forefront ot greedy corporate fuckery, it's just now that enshittification has seeped into everything pushing the boundaries of an already bad ecosystem isn't just kinda annoying like it used to be.
I'm on Linux too. AMD or Nvidia?
Nvidia, at least this time, they've ticked me off enough when I upgrade I'll be leaving. Vulkan drivers are nice for Eden, though. Much better performance than the GL option, though a few games fritz out on Vulkan and I have dropped textures bad enough I need to force GL instead.
Animal Crossing, the one I play the most, is very mixed. It runs insanely fast using Vulkan, but sometimes my hair will disappear, or my floor will just be a black void when I enter the house. GL fixes this, but runs at about 3/4 the speed, which is good enough by I can see noticable lag when I am in the "park" I built between two waterfalls.
I'm sure there's a setting somewhere I'm missing, but I've always just powered through things since this is the oldest my GPU has ever been, and an RTX 3060 isn't that old and fairly decent for most things. I played Cyberpunk (the original even supported ray tracing, but I had to drop that with the 2.0 update and increased hardware requirements) without issue, though I have noticed anything running on Proton tends to have issues with reducing the framelimit which native Linux ports don't have any I didn't see in Windows before I switched to avoid the Plague of Eleven.
I never got the steam deck comparison.
It's like comparing different leagues, classes or whatever and then additionally apples and oranges.
Yes, first off, of course the steam deck is far more powerful than the switch. For the price and used hardware it better be! That's a moot point basically, I could also argue that a >2k€ mobile should be more powerful than a <200€ one. Also, the switch literally is a mobile while the steam deck more of a PC anyhow, which again is a more powerful platform. I'm not going into energy usage though.
The other point is that the steam deck is a pc with a console frontend and that the switch is a console. One is a locked down system (with hard specs) and the other - Well, a pc.
That makes neither better or worse but it depends on your requirements. I love my PCs but sometimes I just want stuff to work and be one packaged experience. And thats where consoles shine. Example: I've played steredenn on switch but never got the controls to work on steam deck, although it's a Linux version even.
The point being. It's fine to like the steam deck over the switch. But it's not comparable however crappy the switch might be.
I fully agree with you. The experiences are very different. I think it’s a disservice to point people especially first time gamers to a Steam deck and say “oh look it’s a console”
For me the definition of a console is plug and play with a dedicated UI. Anything you can see in the store you can run ! Anything marked it can play you put the medium in and it runs …
The online discourse on here and on gaming channels have little if any understanding of people who have never picked up a game controller before. Or is under the age of 12.
And even if there was a “war” between the two the Switch most certainly won I believe 120 million to 6 Million ?
There most certainly still is a mainstream market to take advantage of
I get what you're trying to say but I really disagree. You can compare the two because they're offering the same basic premise. The ability to play video games in a handheld form. Of course the price is different. Of course the capabilities are different. Of course the power of the two machines are different. That's a given. They're two different pieces of technology. We compare technology based off of what they're offering. These two machines are offering the same thing. The ability to play video games in a handheld form. In what world is anything that's offering the same thing as another thing not up for comparison?
For me the Steam Deck made the Switch a redundant device. You can compare them apples to apples. Store experience? Steam Deck wipes the floor with the Switch. We all know the Switch has a horrible store experience. Online capabilities? Steam Deck. Don't have to pay $20 a year to use online capabilities with my Deck. Form factor? Steam Deck is a big bulky machine but it's more ergonomically better suited for me because I'm not as scrunched up like I was holding the Switch lite. OG Switch may have a better experience there. Games they offer? The only thing a Switch offers that separates the two in favor of the Switch is the ability to play Nintendo games natively without jumping through hoops.
You can say the Switch is a console and the Steam Deck is a PC all you want. That's factually true. You can even compare that. They're both computers with a processor, a fan, some form of gpu. One offers a closed off user experience bound to the rules and end user license agreement of a single company. The other is an open full blown PC experience where the makers of the machine say do whatever you want to it. Because you can do whatever you want to a Steam Deck you may run into problems with it that you wouldn't otherwise experience on a console. That's a fine and fair comparison.
To say they aren't comparable is shielding the Switch from criticism. It's doing a disservice to anybody who is looking for a handheld device to play video games because you're hiding information from a perspective buyer who may have a certain set of requirements pertaining to purchasing such a device.
Thanks for the great discussion. I am fine with everything but the last paragraph.
But first, let's respectfully still disagree in general. However I think we're just expressing it differently.
So, from a pc perspective the steam deck is obsolete, since my 14" notebook is a far better device to me. And it's highly mobile too. Thing is, this point is basically going nowhere since with price and over all sectors there will always be a (technologically objective) better device. Why don't we all buy pro tools? Well price for one. It's always about the ratio. Anyhow, just for clarity, I'm really fine with disagreeing here.
Regarding the last paragraph: just recently I had a talk with someone interested and she was looking for a mobile device. I told her about switch and also steam deck, showed both and highlighted the experience differences but as the main point I told her she at the single most important thing needs to look into the game libraries which suits her otherwise she will have a paperweight. It is always and has always been the software that sells the systems.
The perspective buyer wants to play a game and deserves the best experience. On whatever current or future system that might be, and has to weigh in on the price he wants to spend. And that's what I would recommend.
Yeah no problem. I think I know where the disagreement is stemming from. I may be wrong so you can correct me, but you look at the Steam Deck as a handheld PC competing with other PCs. I look at the Steam Deck as a handheld PC competing with other handhelds in general. That's the disagreement. It's a fine line because neither one is really right or wrong. We fall on the opposite sides. I have a PC that is much more powerful than the Steam Deck. That didn't make the Steam Deck obsolete to me. I wasn't looking at the Steam Deck as a PC replacement.
My last paragraph and your actions with your friend prove my point. If they weren't comparable you wouldn't bring them up together. I do agree with you that software sells the system. That's why I bought a Switch to begin with.
I... I have to ask. I really like the switch as the last console there ever was or possibly might be. But I see lots of issues too.
By rent everything to us, you mean game downloads? If so, the switch has a huge physical media collection but yes they might not be in your stores.
I mean the emulation, their online service as a sub with it all included, rather than letting us buy like they did from the time they implemented it up through the 3DS. There's issues with digital copies, but my 3DS has a permanent license when they closed the eShop, so all of the games I have on it will work until the system dies and I can;t downalod them again. The Switch, if I am not subscribed to Online, all of them are gone.
I wholeheartedly agree, the classic games in Nintendo online as a subscription is a shit concept.
If I didn't have better ways of playing these (and more) retro games I wouldn't have any morality issues using a hacked switch to play these.
Oh, they're all on RetroArch, now.
I just hate them not letting you pay for it, their greed forces piracy, but then I've not downloaded a game because I was too broke to buy it for decades. It's all been being unable to buy, or having terrible DRM that broke the game, or a shitty launcher that you were forced to use.
PSP. I know now people are raving about it, but the games basically all sucked except a few and it was a pretty good emulator handheld though. But it mostly collected dust.
Xbox. I wanted a gamecube but my parents didn't like nintendo for some reason. Now im old and i don't like nintendo for some reason, and I still don't like xbox
My friend, there are lots of reasons not to like the litigious corporate monstrosity that Nintendo has become.
Also, they don't really do proper adult games like Elden Ring.
If you love Zelda I understand but it's time to move on.
[edit: Added a line break for two separate thoughts. Sloppy writing remains for the sake of responses.]
"Proper adults" play whatever the fuck they like, including Zelda.
not proper adults, ops saying games catered towards adults
Also, they don’t really do proper adult games like Elden Ring. If you love Zelda I understand but it’s time to move on.
In the context of the first sentence, the second sentence seems to imply that Zelda isn't for "proper adults". Even if it wasn't meant like that (I can't see how else it can be meant), who is OP to tell people to "move on".
Fair, my phrasing was probably too saucy there. Drunk post, my bad. I would still call myself a Zelda fan, even though the last one I played was Twilight Princess. It's one of the all-time greatest series and the titles nearly always score 9/10 everywhere for a reason.
But I'm still going to say to "move on". Not because of Zelda, no. There's no real substitute. Rather, move on because Nintendo is scummy and doesn't deserve your money when plenty of other publishers are making fun and creative games and working hard for it instead of suing their own customers.
Rather, move on because Nintendo is scummy and doesn’t deserve your money
So you're saying move on to the high seas? Yarr
That's true. I wouldn't expect someone to play games that aren't fun to them.
But you're not exactly helping the gaming industry improve if you're regularly giving money to douchey companies rather than more open-minded publishers. I think it's pretty simple to argue that you're endorsing the scumbag behavior if you help finance it.
Nintendo has always been litigious. I don’t understand this myth that they used to be wholesome and friendly in the good old days.
They sued Atari for making NES games. They sued Galoob for making the Game Genie. They sued Blockbuster for renting their games.
Kirby the character is literally named after Nintendo’s lawyer John Kirby.
That's a very good point. But they're even more of a corporate behemoth now.
I was a Nintendo Power subscriber until the GameCube era, and I feel like they used to share a little bit of behind-the-scenes fun (e.g. making-of Donkey Kong Country VHS) and promote 3rd-party titles even on the magazine cover. But it seems like even that kind of stuff is long gone.
minus that one comic book looking gorey slasher game for the wii
That was pretty fun, very clever too. They could spend more on the graphics because it was greyscale.
Red Steel or MadWorld?
i think it was madworld, didnt know there were 2 games like that for the wii
PS Vita. It had so much promise, but the games weren’t really there and Sony kinda just forgot about it. I remember it was the first time you could stream a PS4 game to a handheld, which was novel at the time. But it never felt “good enough” and most games didn’t support it or were too finicky. If I look at my Steam Deck now, I think that’s more or less what Sony had in mind for the Vita as well
PS5 or Nintendo Switch.
PS5: No games I want to play except Demons Souls Remake. Its the only PS5 game I own. Every other game I wanted to play I just play on PC instead.
Switch: Weak, underpowered "console." Never left the dock, ever. Still had performance problems in first party titles, like Breath of the Wild chugging to 15fps or less in the Korok Forest when facing East for some reason. After I was disappointed with Breath of the Wild, I haven't touched the 2014 midrange tablet "console" since. Only emulated the games for an immensely better experience.
IIRC that Tegra X1 chip was launched in 2015 so the Switch launched with an obsolete SoC. It's surprising to see how much performance they've been able to wring out of that old tech for nearly a decade. Color me impressed.
That's kinda, at least historically, been Nintendo's whole thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpei_Yokoi#Design_philosophy
I was a bit conservative myself (or maybe lucky that neighbor kids had a 3DO and Sega CD I could try) but I did own a Sega Game Gear. That thing drank 6x AA batteries like there was no tomorrow. And the game library was very lackluster after the Sonic titles.
That thing drank 6x AA batteries like there was no tomorrow.
There were NiCad rechargeables. I didn't own a Game Gear, but a friend did, and I remember him using NiCads for that and RC vehicles.
It's been a looong time. But I think it drank those too? Engineers in those days maybe didn't know how to optimize a full color screen with good brightness like that device sported.
The Game Gear has an entire CFL bulb behind the screen. A popular mod is to swap it out for some LEDs, which consume an order of magnitude less power.
It drank everything. I had a screw on battery pack that attached to the back of it and I still remember it didn't last very long.
It's not that they lasted longer, but that it was considerably less expensive to recharge them than to buy and throw out a new set of batteries for each session.
Switch Lite. Great console, but limited in stupid ways. Why no video out?

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