The only belief that's been shattered mildly bruised is that he is in the in-group, and that by association his wife is too. But it's a safe bet that he still believes himself to be in the in-group.
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Have the day you voted for moron.
the problem is that someone else is suffering the day he voted for, he is just upset the government took his property
Also I have to remind myself that a hundred “leopards ate my face” stories still only represent a tiny drop in the ocean of assholes who are cheering on the fourth reich
I’m now of the opinion that most of the “trump voters” (which, again, not the majority of the country, and I’m not 100% convinced the election wasn’t bought or stolen) are either ignorant but generally well-meaning people who probably thought Reagan was fine and just want this admin to be over with while keeping everything they have and, ideally, “getting more” - OR - are the racist bigoted garbage people we mostly assume them all to be on here.
The difference is enormous, and it is absolutely controlled and maintained by traditional media. (Which now includes the trainwrecks of facepals and the nazi twits.)
Totally preventable, absolutely foreseen, and fwiw explained 1,000 different times in as many ways. But here we are either preaching to the choir or fighting with leftists because they’re the only other ones smart and/or savvy enough to be here.
TL;DR it’s not going to get better without a popular Democrat.
It’s not going to get better even with a popular democrat. Over and over again, even as the leopards are ripping their faces off, they announce that they’re sad about getting eaten, but they would totally vote for the Orange Felon again.
Politics for them isn’t about choosing a good government, or getting someone to represent them properly. It’s team sports, and you have to vote for your team so your side wins.
I think that’s partially true but not completely. A popular Democrat shifted things to the better in 92 and 2008. They did so amongst most of the same Fox “News” and Limbaugh followers that had sewn up everything before.
Yes, there are ‘sports fan’ politics that will never vote for a woman, god forbid a black woman, or a gay man, probably for our foreseeable lifetimes. Right now, they tip the scales.
So when the Democrats put forth a white man next (or, possibly, a black man) let’s not be shocked. I mean, this place will go up in flames and our ‘leftist’ compatriots will work overtime to defeat them again, but - that’s why we’re here (again). Because the majority of voters can’t imagine a better world that isn’t very much like the one we live in now. And imo that’s true across most if not all democracies.
Radical progressivism has no allies. Radical conservatism has immediate history, allies, and a very, very low bar to entry. So if we don’t move forward from the middle, it’s probably not going to move forward. That’s not ideal, but it’s likely the reality.
Or thought half of what Trump said was just to "trigger the libs".
She married a MAGA Republican so I doubt she was amazing either.
And she chose to be with a racist piece of shit, and now she suffers the consequences of her actions. Pardon me while I make a fucking sandwich.
I dont mind the petty schadenfreude,
You know, I never liked Jackass, or reality tv. I'm not even a big fan of The Office, because I just don't find pain very funny. But at this point there's just no excuse.
Evangelical Christian people were lied to, if you really want to know the truth. And that’s exactly what happened.
Evangelical Christians are easy to lie to, if you want to know the truth, because they disdain intelligence, preferring their world in which they cosplay magic in fairyland 24/7 without even a tiny hint of self-awareness (because they have none). Given the same choice he would do it again, because he's too cost-sunk in his dumbass roleplaying to do anything different.
Evangelical Christians just want to hear that they're going to be rewarded for their suffering. Catholics as well. The Rapture, Heaven, Honoring the Son of God...
It's a whole group of miserable people who are desperate for affirmation that their misery has meaning. Then they groom their children into miserable lives, and pressure strangers into being miserable as well. It's incredibly sad.
Who’s doing the lying?
…. He goes on to say that he and his wife were both ministers. Seems like they’d be part of spreading the lie
I am happy some seem to finally face the truth and recognize their mistake... this is the first of this type of regret-pieces where at the very least the face-eaten man does not claim he would STILL vote for trump... so I give him credit for that
And yes, they were lied to but come on... it was not a subtle lie, hard to verify, based on mostly truth.. the lie was so outrageously evident, I cannot believe anyone is stupid enough to buy it
Some San Diego cop found out the same thing a few weeks ago. They arrested, and deported, his British wife. IIRC that was at her final immigration hearing, where she would have been given a green card.
the lie was so outrageously evident, I cannot believe anyone is stupid enough to buy it
Well there is precedent for that, religion for example. Fox News another example
I know but I am still baffled how, seemingly functioning adults, are so fucking clueless and easily deluded
I think blaming it on gullibility or ignorance is wrong. These people aren't that stupid, they're just hatefully people that didn't think they would be targets. I feel bad for this dude's wife being kidnapped, but he can rot in Hell with every other Trump voter.
I feel like that is overly reductive. These are people who are seeing their lives become harder year over year, and are being handed a convenient scapegoat by people they were taught to trust. Their biggest crime is usually a lack of critical thinking.... to start with. It often grows from there to a lack of empathy.
It is pretty amazing. Being a well-known rapist and demented pathological liar isn’t disqualifying from one of the most powerful positions in the world.
It was astounding a decade ago. Now it’s . . . well, whatever this is.
Working around a few of them, the biggest factor I can tell is that they've been sheltered and groomed their whole life to think that way. Anything else would just seem foreign. (Like trying to convince a Christian that Jesus wasn't white, if he was ever real)
Since a lot of these beliefs are so ingrained into their psyche, an existential crisis, like what he may be experiencing, is likely one of the few things that can work.
The only silver lining here is that if this dude has actually changed his mind, he's probably got better access to change other people's minds than any of us who never fell for the lies.
I cannot believe anyone is stupid enough to buy it
I know some very smart engineers that totally bought into his stupid lies. Like. Wtf. How can they be methodical in gathering facts for debugging software bugs, but then also completely fail to think for 2 seconds about any trump claims.
Because his lies target emotions not intelligence, and a lot of engineers have absolutely dogshit emotional intelligence. If it "feels" right enough they don't bother to notice that it's prima fascia ludicrous
Well you know what they say... the only prerequisite to believe a lie, it to want to believe the lie
I promise you despite all this they still don't have awareness of others. They only care that they are impacted.
Fucking idiot. His wife was an immigrant, and he thought it would he a good idea to vote for trump?
“It is one thing to just not deliver,” she said. “But to act in the way that he has, which is so dehumanizing, so cruel… this is why we are seeing the beginnings of real cracks with this president and his base.”
The beginnings of real cracks? WTF? He doesn't need you any more! You elected him already. Why would he possibly care? If he's president beyond the end of this term, it won't be because a free, fair and legal election took place! Why would he fucking care one ounce of a fart what you, a powerless nonentity, think of him? There's nothing you can offer him in the future. He only ever cares what you can do for him. He has never cared what he can do for you. Ever.
were lied to
No shit, Sherlock! The world's most famous, prolific and egregious liar whose desperately stupid lies were pointed out to you many, many times, and just today you realised he was lying to you too? How utterly stupid are you?
Your last paragraph is what surprises me the most, because that's just not the case. Project 2025 was very clear, they weren't lied to, they just heard what they wanted to hear.
Conservatives broadly fine care about suffering and hardship unless it directly and specifically affects them. Even then it doesn't always sink in, either.
I know a veteran who married a women he met while stationed in Panama. He also adopted a kid from Panama. They were all loud and proud MAGA on the socials up until about 6 months ago. Now all of it has been removed. GEE I WONDER WHY?
Man I feel bad for that kid. The wife should know better, but the kids just there
We've got a family of psychopaths loving below us, from some Eastern European country. They'll bang on their ceiling if we move around after 9 pm. He tried to actually prohibit it, but I told him no, not politely. My landlord seems to hate them, too. They were trying to get his attention on the sidewalk a while back, and he barked at them "I told you that I don't want to hear from you unless your place is on fire!" He likes us, though.
But ever since Trump took office again, and ICE started rounding people up, these people have been SILENT. No banging on the ceiling , no dirty looks, no monopolizing the courtyard, etc.
I'm pretty sure they're just flying under the radar, knowing that we could make their lives miserable with one phone call. I wouldn't do it, but if the tables were turned, I have no doubt that they would dime us out in a heartbeat.
Again, the classic quote rings loud 'I didn't think the leopards would eat MY face' It's super hard for me to sympathize with ignorant racists.
Haven’t seen a bmp in a while.
Still rocking System 7.6 and if it’s not in .pict format, I won’t see it.
It only matters when it affects them personally. Fuck him.
It just isn't real until it affects them personally
It just isn't real until it affects them personally
Lacking empathy ?
"In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trials 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think 1 have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It's the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men.Evil. I think. is the absence of empathy."
- Captain G. M. Gilbert, Army psychologist
"The death of human empathy is one of the earliest and most telling signs of a culture about to fall into barbarism. [...1 This loss of empathy laid the groundwork for some of humanity's darkest moments. " - Hannah Arendt
I really can't sufficiently express how frustrating it was to say this as I watched my culture move away from empathy and to be dismissed as alarmist at best and with mockery more commonly. I wish now as then that I knew a way to convince people to display empathy and act in good faith
I feel the same. I dont see a path forward without a huge catalyzing event (which is almost certainly not going to involve puppies and rainbows).
It took the right wing 50 years of dedicated, hard work to align all the stars and get their men into the right offices all at the same time in order to dismantle so much of our government. Without a huge catalyst, I fear its going to take the left 50 years to swing things back the other way. We might have to live through decades of shit like Iran, North Korea, or Russia before it swings back the other way.
Problem is the other 99.999% of them will say the same exact thing, but not until something happens to them personally.
You can't sway them as a group, they need to be at a personal disadvantage.
If it makes it any better in my experience the average Trump vote is pretty fucken stupid. Use my grandmother for example where whenever I have any trouble dissembling a piece of tech around her her first response is to suggest the sawzaw. Point is they ain't very bright and a lot of them legit don't know about how bad he is due to information and propaganda bubbles.
Man, got really confused here for a second reading this. Probably perfectly understandable for a native English speaker though and I learned a few new things; sawzaw = Sawzall = reciprocating saw and dissembling being an actual word.
Dissemble is a word but I believe they actually meant disassemble here
Sorry about that, I have only ever seen it spelt that way. What your looking at is a phonetically spelt word from a rather hick dialect of old Inland Imperial Southern Californian.
I don't need to imagine.
JD Vance has a Indian wife and mixed kids.
And let's just say only JD Vance is doing well for himself.
It is a running theme. Just like their representatives, GOP voters don't give a flying fuck who gets hurt by their policies - maybe even celebrate when it hurts the right people - until it affects them personally.
I have my own problems with corporate Democrats, but at least they make a show of trying to help their constituents and maybe even pass something helpful so long as it doesn't rankle their billionaire donors.
You reap what you vote. Unfortunately the rest of us are paying for your mistake too.
And the central premise of his reelection, which was to make America more affordable, is a complete fallacy, a complete lie.
You mean Trump, who is well known to be a pathological lying criminal narcissist, lied to people so he could get reelected? surprised Pikachu
Gee, I hope all these veterans with training and access to guns (and possible PTSD) don't act against the people who betrayed them
/s just in case
Whatever y'all will vote for him again.
Zero empathy. You voted for this and are only mad because it's now affecting you.
I love this for you, jackass pedo-supporter.
Off topic but Related: My brother voted Harris (but he's still a racist tho), but I heard he's planning to back to our home country¹ for marriage. I honestly wonder how the visa application stuff would work out for his future wife... 👀 The plan is to live in the US.
(¹It's China btw, I don't think my brother wants to live there, neither do I)
Anyways, popcorn time. Anyone wanna bet what happens? I'll probably update in like a year or 2, not sure exactly when he's making the trip.
Posting his political affiliations online for anyone in this day and age probably won't help his case.
I don't think he post it publically.
My brother just said he doesn't like trump because trump is racist against Asians, cuz remember covid and the whole "China virus" rhetoric? (which is kinda ironic since my brother himself is also a racist, just against different people) He is a registered Democrat.
Welp, we'll see what happens.
I'm honestly torn, on one hand, he was abusive to me, so I kinda wanna see him get fucked by the government.
On the otherhand tho, fuck trump.
Still won’t vote democratic.
This loser doesn't believe in anything other than racism and xenophobia.
And most likely homophobia and transphobia.
Hope his life collapses.
I can absolutely believe it. But mainly because i have eyes and half a brain
evangelical christians were lied to
No they weren't, it was all laid out, they just didn't think but would happen to them, or they only heard what they wanted to hear.
He's been elected by these fools, he doesn't need them anymore.




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