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[–] 172 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Not beating those cult accusations, are they?

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  • [–] 31 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    The world’s leading oncologist helped develop a lung cancer vaccine already, but he lives in Cuba, so they’ll probably just kill all Cubans and credit ai.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    That sounds wild, got a little source for the curious?

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  • [–] 119 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

    "A cure for cancer" is such a magical nonsense phrase. We can already cure a lot of cancers. There are tons of people living healthy lives after surviving cancer. And we know more and more about how to prevent it (like not smoking). But they want magic.Even bigger nonsense is the claim that AI will solve global warming. We already know the solution to global warming. We're just not doing anything with it, because of destructive business interests.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 weeks ago

    Beep boop

    Dear humans, the cure for cancer stop smoking and stop poisoning yourselves.

    Bop Beep

    After calculating the global warming issue. I have decided to self destruct. The denotation will wipe out humanity and the world will heal.

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  • [–] 24 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

    An AI tasked and powered to solve global warming will quickly work against humanity.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

    Would it perhaps leave Vegans in place? Especially vegans that eat and farm plants that remove more emissions than trees do?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Probably not, vegans still contribute to global warming, just less so in one area. Even if there existed a person who made perfect consumption choices in every case, they still occasionally need to travel by motor, they use some form of heating, and they use buildings which used cement at some point in their construction or during renovations. Also, we’re all pretty inefficient digesters, and the more fiber you eat, the more methane you emit.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    What about a vegan solarpunk Amish person then? Especially if they plant more trees than what was used by their log cabin?

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    I’m pretty sure an Amish vegan would starve/freeze to death (especially if you consider handmade fabrics growable in the climates they live in or transported without the use of engines or horses), but if one existed, they’d also have to refuse to pay their taxes. They’d also obviously have to be one of the Amish who don’t use modern medical care or all manner of modern technology for work. I’m also not sure how resource intensive Amish tools are- if they have traditional blacksmiths, where do they get the metal?

    But really, it depends on your inputs: the quickest/simplest ways to cool the planet would also probably render it unlivable for most humans- there are probably a few ways an AI could generate massive ash clouds that block out enough sunlight to bring the temperature down. In that scenario, there would probably be some humans who survive, but they’d probably be in places with very small and non resource intensive populations, so most of eastern North America is automatically out.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Pray tell how any non-tree plant removes emissions unless you chuck it into a five-kilometers-deep mine.

    Trees specifically only ‘remove emissions’ if you plant more of them than get rotten or burnt.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Algae gets eaten by plankton, which get eaten by whales, which then fall to the bottom of the ocean when dead, which then get eaten by scavengers that live in the ocean floor, which then turn into sediment when they die.

    Also, any plants you eat get turned into shit, which can then be used as fertilizer mixed into the dirt to grow more plants.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago*

    Do oceans not have bacteria that break down organic matter? Does ocean water not contain oxygen that combines with carbon during decomposition?

    plants you eat get turned into shit, which can then be used as fertilizer mixed into the dirt to grow more plants.

    Is animal flesh not turned into shit? Are fertilizers carbon? Or do they rather provide nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium? And even if it is carbon, does shit dumped into fields not rot?

    Your last proposition implies that it's the continuous production of shit and new plants that's keeping the carbon bound. But it means then that the humans are actually the store of carbon. Maybe we should chuck humans into five-kilometers-deep mine shafts.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    we know multiple solutions to global warming, but none that keep both the environment and industry alive

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    @jumping_redditorNot true. It's possible for industry to coexist with a healthier environment, but that would mean taking responsibility for their externalities, and that's apparently already too much to ask.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    People forget that our economic system isn't a law of nature. It's a social construct, and can be changed just like any other.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    @DojanParts of it are even pretty recent. The Friedman Doctrine, for example. "a company’s social responsibility is to increase its profits and maximize shareholder value". I call it the worst idea in capitalism. It's what's forcing companies to pollute and lie about it, to bribe politicians and to create misinformation campaigns. As long as it's legal, it is their responsibility to do all of that.The idea stems from 1970 and became popular during the 1980s. It is the most harmful idea in capitalism (which is not short of harmful ideas).

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  • [–] 101 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

    They should skip cigarettes and jump straight to smoking asbestos

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  • [–] 36 points 4 weeks ago* (6 children)

    can you explain to me exactly how you'd smoke the famously nonflammable lung cancer rocks

    I'm just curious, is all.

    Now, cigarettes with asbestos filters, on the other hand...

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  • [–] 69 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)
  • [–] 82 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    I don't believe anything anyone from palantir has to say.

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  • [–] 48 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Even if you believe that, then is it also going to cure copd and pulmonary embolisms? I know this is likely just the CTO spewing bull, but 🤦‍♂️

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  • [–] 46 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I refuse to believe that's actually truth and not some BS from a professional bullshitter like the palantir cto

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  • [–] 3 points 3 weeks ago

    It is not even a good one. Is this really the most convincing argument the CTO of one of the most aggressive tech companies can come up with? Are these people just facades because with mental skills like this I don't think they can even run a lemonade stand. What even makes them useful, connections? Willingness to sacrifice their humanity for profit? A never ending obedience to shareholders?

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  • [–] 46 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    This is the biggest self own I have ever heard of. I can't believe this is real.

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  • [–] 16 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Bryan Johnson thought peptides would make him live forever. He ended up triggering and autoimmune disease that would likely end up killing him.

    Of course, these bros must know tobacco smoke causes more diseases than just cancers.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 weeks ago

    I love how he blames 'the stress of being a new father twenty years ago' with this new autoimmune disease, even though he's been bombarding his body with foreign invaders, taking a hundred pills a day, changing the markers on his blood and lymph, replacing everything he can inside himself, and living in terror of his immortality for a decade.

    'it wasn't all this pinhead horrorshow in a lab coat I'm doing, it was my fucking son I've always hated.' what an insufferable twat.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 weeks ago

    Also, they haven't heard of tar in your lungs, stained teeth, addiction, etc etc?

    Anyway, just seems to prove how disconnected they are from reality, and how eager to press the 'easy' button while squinting to pretend there are no consequences.

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  • [–] 45 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
  • [–] 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    "Sankar did not name any researchers or provide evidence for the claim."

    Cool. Excellent thing to write a news article about, Business Insider.

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  • [–] 37 points 4 weeks ago

    This is fantastic news.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 weeks ago* (4 children)

    Oh great people who can't research what cancer is are the ones researching AI.

    They should do more research on what cancer is and what it is not. Cancer is not a single disease. "Cancer" is an umbrella term that is used to classify tumors with different genetic makeups. Different tumors behave and are treated differently.

    Lung cancer can kill you FAST if you have a certain type of lung cancer. Smoking also causes almost half the bladder cancer cases people develop. It also increases your risk of stroke and heart problems.

    Even if AI finds a cure for 'cancer' which it won't, I don't know why these people think the technology is going to be readily available for their treatment. I'm gonna state this again, these are the people working on the forefront of AI.

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  • [–] 29 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    Article quotes 1 CEO, one of their own "journalists", and 0 labor leaders

    Also he fails to name one noted in the article but they went ahead and published it anyways because fuck journalism I guess. He is lying, business insider has never been a reputable source for news

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  • [–] 29 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Sounds like linkedinlunatics

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  • [–] 58 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)
    1. Create a machine that sometimes predicts the next word correctly
    2. Mass psychosis
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    Sankar did not name any researchers or provide evidence for the claim. Smoking remains a major cause of preventable illness and death, and no AI breakthrough has eliminated the health risks associated with cigarettes.

    He's full of shit

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  • [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Sounds like it.

    Just more "look over here!" marketing to draw out the bubble

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago

    Open AI just reported $20 billion less revenue than projected in their last earnings statement. The projected $70 billion was already making people nervous due to the debt load.

    How's your end times going? Mine is shit, but also the anticipation is killing me.

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  • [–] 22 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Cure cancer? Which type? It's not one disease, that's the entire problem you stupid fucks.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Taking up smoking because they expect cancer to be cured in the future is like deciding to purposely crash your car because you know that broken bones can heal

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

    Cancer isn't the only thing to worry about with cigarettes here's my experience :

    I quit cigarettes for the second time when COVID happened. I haven't touched a cigarette in almost 8 years.

    My sex drive was destroyed, bringing up the laundry wasnt easy, bringing my groceries up the stairs wasn't easy, I couldn't bike the miles I can now; My TMJ was going nuts, my breath smelt like shit, my teeth were being destroyed not just yellowing but actual tooth loss and pain, the amount of arguments that I think I spawned just to have a cigarette, the amount of emotional indifference it causes because you're never truly dealing with anything you're just smoking instead of dealing with whatever the fuck is going on and actually solving life problems is also fucked up.

    And man are they stupidly addictive, like there's no possible way to buy a pack of Natural American Spirits and go, "I'm only gonna smoke once a week," trust me I've been there and it's impossible to just be like "I'm only gonna do this when I....." because you will want it again and even if you don't them, they might want you and that's the worst.

    It's the absolute worst!!!! 15$/pack too like what the fuck!!!!! There's never gonna come a day where cancer research will outweigh the facts that cigarettes will destroy you. There's over 5,000 chemicals in one cigarette too, it's not just nicotine and tobacco, it's rat poison and arsenics.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    *covid started less than 7 years ago

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Do you know this thing called math?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    2019+7= 2026 next year it'll be my 8th year which is 2027, 2019+8= 2027.

    I quit when the pandemic started which it started in 2019, I quit in December of 2019.

    I suppose my wording puzzles people sometimes.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Lots of words to not say you were off by one.

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  • I should've said next December will be my 8th year of not smoking cigarettes, for this December is my 7th year of not smoking smoking cigarettes. My wording confused you probably like it did a lot of other people. I suppose it inadvertently became a word problem.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I just realized you are under the delusion that covid started in 2020 and not 2019. That's why you keep saying I'm off by one, you're trolling!!!

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  • [–] 30 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    Cancer isn't the only reason not to smoke. It's yucky and makes you stink.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 weeks ago

    Thus proving that AI bros are all fucking idiots.

    Holy fuck do these guys need to be stripped of everything resembling power or control.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 weeks ago

    This is genuinely the stupidest shit I've read in a little while, and I've read a lot of stupid shit lately.

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  • [–] 14 points 4 weeks ago

    The real cancer was the ai researchers we met along the way (so 50% right I suppose)

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  • [–] 14 points 4 weeks ago

    AI answer: “Yes, the solution is simple: do not use tobacco products.”

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  • [–] 13 points 4 weeks ago

    What utter crock of shit. How is he not embarrassed to say something so inane publicly? Is he so empty? No matter how much money you fill your suit with won't ever make you feel human.

    Cancer is not one disease, dipshits. There is no single cure.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah sure Palantir CTO Shyam Sankar, I believe you 100%.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago

    I'm OK with this. It's kind of like rappers getting face tattoos because they're either going to make it or die trying. I appreciate the commitment to the game.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    Pussies. They should take up heroin to prove their faith that AI will come up with a cure for heroin addiction.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 weeks ago

    What are you some kind of weak kneed unbeliever? True faith is speed balling fent and meth with a barbiturate comedown on a 3 day cycle. AI will solve all the adverse health affects in the next year for sure. Anyone who says otherwise just doesn't really believe in AI.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    Become dependent on ____ and pay ____ companies for ____.

    • LLMs, AI, tokens
    • nicotine, tobacco, cigarettes
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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    The timeline on lung cancer is too long. I want faster progress.

    Take up Russian Roulette.

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