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[–] 137 points 2 months ago (13 children)

I was prompted by this announcement to download it. An office suite came installed by default with this machine, but I want to support their numbers and start promoting it to others.

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  • [–] 62 points 2 months ago (12 children)

    I've used their stuff for years, definitely solid

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  • [–] 41 points 2 months ago (10 children)

    I'm an accountant. I use Libreoffice to write complex written documents and manage reasonably large data sets for 40 hours a week for the last decade, and openoffice before that. I encourage my small team to do the same and for the most part, they do. We all have both libreoffice and microsoft suites on our desktops.

    It's fine. I feel like it's the humble workhorse that has served me very well for many years with no fuss.

    I'm sure someone will be along in a moment to tell us all about how any serious professional uses excel. There always is in these threads.

    For my own part I feel like LibreOffice is one of the great success stories of open source.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    Same here, i had a business, 80 employees, 4 retail spaces. I used Open office and then Libre Office. I sold my business. many years back but still use Libre office today

    I started on Lotus 1-2-3

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    I worked at a nonprofit that helped out homeless people. 500+ employees, terminals at dozens of locations, all using Ubuntu and LibreOffice for everything. It was fine. Uneventful, even. And they saved sooo much money because they never had to pay a dime to anyone besides the internal IT department. This open source stuff is imo better than the big corporate products for professional use because updates don’t break workflows as much.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I'm a Very Serious professional (inhouse) accountant. I use Excel because Visual Basic allows me to access the file system and automate everything. I don't like it, but it is what it is. I sometimes make sheets that don't even open Excel. In Excel of course. It's probably not the right tool for that, but it's the hammer that I've got and which the company allows.

    I know that LibreOffice also have macros, but in comparison, it's much more difficult to program because there isn't 1000 other accounts asking the same question online, so ressources are scarce.

    Also the keyboard shortcut for Autosum. Can't find it in LibreOffice. At this point, it's the only formula that I use, because I have been accustomed to entering my data in a way that everything is a sum. Substraction is a sum including a negative number. Multiplication is a sum of sums. Division is the opposite of multiplication, so also a sum. I only use Sum, with the occasional Sumif, Sumifs and SumProduct.

    I do use LibreOffice at home, but do wish they'd make a keyboard shortcut for Sum.

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  • [+] -3 points 2 months ago* (4 children)
  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    In my former job they kept telling me (well ordering/demanding is closer) to use MS office, I held on to LibreOffice. The usual 'we have complex documents" excuse yet no one ever noticed my rebellion.

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  • [–] 79 points 2 months ago (17 children)

    What the hell man. Who is still funding this bubble?

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  • [–] 73 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    Technocratic billionaires who want to enslave everyone who isn’t white, rich, male, and in their little club.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    Do Satya Nadella and Sundar Pichai strike you as extremely white names?

    Edit: to be clear, some of those people are really quite racist... But I am not so sure that's such a determining factor in the larger sector.

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  • I guess just "technocratic billionaires who want to own everything" is enough of a descriptor, then.

    And I don't think "their little club" is a factor, either. If they ever manage to own everything, they'll just go after each other sooner or later, and their insatiable greed will burn the world to ashes.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    Not much for the history of white supremacists and how they use useful idiots, huh? Yes, there are awful people of every race color and creed that think they’ll be in the fun authoritarian group. What a novel realization you’ve come across.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    White is not an actual concern of theirs, they pretend it is because they are allied to the right wing's sort of base in that sense. That right wing will be enslaved like everyone else without money if they get their way, and plenty of non white rich will be in the club.

    It's about class, it's always been about class to the ruling class.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You clearly haven’t read their very publicly published self aggrandizing autobiographies and ranting about their plans for a white supremacist technocratic serfdom, they state plainly that blood and soil is very much a concern of theirs.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    I have not directly read them, I have links on another computer though somewhere saved, from the collapse dudes on that corporate social media forget what they were called, what is the name of the great thinker of theirs, Yarvin and all.

    Be all that as it may, the way it will play out is those with the means to protect themselves (for now they will alll be ground under the boot,) will be fine, and that includes a lot of non white foreign rich.

    And that most of the racism from the ruling class is just playing the rubes so they can make more money and get more unaccountable power.

    It really is like that, even as many are racist themselves as you allude to.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    It's literally 1/4 of the entire worlds stock market and superannuation and investments now... And a lot more in derivatives (bets on how the future will pan out).

    So.. the entire world's leaders and financial industry is either FOMO or holding, and throwing stuff into the cash fire in the hope the flame doesn't go out and tank the entire world in a financial disaster that'll rival that of 100 years ago.

    Its beyond reckless.

    Even if the cookers are right and AI pans out and it does replace 30% of jobs or something - congrats, leaders and finance dregs, now you have an entirely new disaster to deal with that you funded.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Didn't you hear!? We did it, we have AGI this time™. It's the future bro! This time it'll be different! Just one more datacenter! Just a few thousand more GPUs and you too can own AGI!

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  • [–] 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    when i'm finally working again and able to donate to some projects, libreoffice is definitely getting a little love.

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  • [–] 31 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    I love LibreOffice.

    My only complaint using it every day at work is [a complaint against microsoft] how much my company uses microsoft products (but won't shell out for office licenses for 90% of staff) and microsoft purposefully makes their shit not display or read Libre files correctly to try to keep their grubby monopoly claws dug into everyone.

    My IT staff is too stupid to send announcements out to a BCC list and causes reply-all waves about once a month so I am not holding out hope that we make any progress as a company towards smart computing.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Oh damn I remember working at a telecom company in the early 2000s. About once every quarter someone would email the corporate distribution list with an announcement that was intended for just their team.

    The subsequent avalanche of people replying all with "don't CC me on this kind of email" followed by the inevitable follow up of people with no self awareness replying all that people shouldn't be so stupid as to reply all to a corporate wide email because it can crash the email server followed by yet another wave of people replying all to point out that the person just did the same thing and mock them... Then the email server would actually crash, then there would be an official message from leadership telling people not to email the corporate directory, and not to reply all of someone did...

    Then inevitably someone would get back from leave a couple of days later and reply all again telling people not to CC then on that type of email...

    It was downright hilarious.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    It's one of the perks of the job. At my last company, we'd let those things run their course before cleaning up the mess. It was always a good reminder that the majority of the company is too dumb to be left unsupervised with anything more advanced than a basic calculator.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    How the hell is sending to high user count DLs not restricted to people capable of thinking and breathing at the same time (or managment, which ever signs your paychecks)?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (2 children)

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... inhale HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

    Anyone with access to a computer can e-mail the entire company with one address. Hell, the way they are setup, I would not even be a little bit shocked to find out someone outside the company e-mail system could e-mail the entire company if that address got leaked...

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Glad Libreoffice is getting more attention; started using it as soon i went to Linux a couple of months ago. And now, ive been slowly getting my mother on the FOSS bandwagon cause shes getting tired of MAC

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I recently introduced my dad to libreoffice and he won’t stop talking about how great it is. I’m just like. Wait until you try Linux haha

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Thats awesome that you got your dad on board with it, and slowly moving him to rabbit hole🤣. My father unfortantly is not tech savy, i would have to introduce it real slow for him or if he is interested, find a distro that operates similar to Windows. I do know he would change though if my mother changes her OS..... maybe.

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  • [–] 49 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Oh what a dystopia we live in. We went from companies declaring they have AI as a feature added to their product, to companies declaring they don't have AI added to their products to promote them. A clear sign AI is complete slop.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    It heavily depends on what market they are trying to tap in. LibreOffice always was in the Linux marketpalce, where chances are you will find a community of more privacy oriented people that prefer less bloat, less telemetry and third party dependencies. It only makes sense for them to keep an "old school cool" approach.

    Wish more companies would be like that, but sadly we live in our own bubble and there are A TON of people that just simply traded in their brains for AI these days.

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  • [–] 24 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    It has totally nothing to do with Office being a pile of subscription based dogshit

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  • [–] 35 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    What's "Office"? Did you mean "Microsoft 365 Copilot"?

    And yes, the premium domain https://office.com/ now redirects to https://m365.cloud.microsoft/ and there's not a single mention of "Office", the world's most recognized software suite for decades.

    This is a PR stunt at the level of X killing the blue bird.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    At this rate we'll end up with Microsoft Xbox Series Copilot 360 Experience X II too soon

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  • [–] 20 points 2 months ago (9 children)

    I've been using OpenOffice for forever, before it was cool

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  • [–] 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I used OpenOffice until it didn't work for some reason, I switched to LibreOffice and I haven't looked back.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    It didn't for some reason? It didn't work for a relatively precise reason.

    And that reason is Larry Ellison. He (Oracle) bought Sun, which was leading the OpenOffice.org project.

    At the time Google was still not evil, people thought Facebook was a good idea. It was the time when people actually liked big tech.

    Even then Ellison was already so massively disliked in the industry that the very moment he got his hands on OO.o LibreOffice was created and all contributors jumped ship.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    The school I go to demands we use Google Docs (or Office at home) for our work. Boowomp, I'll still use LibreOffice. Fuck GenAI.

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  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    It's wild to me that I only ever heard of LO just two years ago. (When they decided to paywall notepad it was the last straw for me.)

    Feels so so good to ditch Microsoft products.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago

    LibreOffice is great and nice to see it getting some attention.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    LibreOffice is the good stuff if you need an office suite. It can do everything you might actually need and the price is right. But I'm old and retired and no longer have a need for a full office suite. I find AbiWord and Gnumeric all I need anymore. It kind of makes me sad to do so, but I uninstall LibreOffice these days.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Shit, I still use GobeProductive 3. Little more than 50 mb gets you a word processor, spreadsheet, image and graphics and a power point maker. And it's pretty nice having my docs in a format that nobody even can open or convert.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    For a few years I had a subscription to Office. I thought I was more productive.

    But I.... probably wasn't?

    It's hard to qualify. LibreOffice always felt like an office suite. "You can do things here." Boom. I did it.

    Office was like "But wait! There's a zillion more things you can do! Until your subscription expires at least."

    But then I got curious. How exactly do I do these zillion new things in LibreOffice??? They claim to be mostly document compatible, so how do I do the same stuff?

    Aha. I can actually do this shit. Turns out most of this stuff was very minor spreadsheet thingamaijggery. Want to lock rows or columns? It's slightly different. Want to do weird icons for values? It's slightly different. Etc.

    Very important learning experience!

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    It took me forever to learn that Calc refers to cells in other sheets like SheetName.CellNumber while Excel and Google Sheets use SheetName!CellNumber and I just thought either LibreOffice was broken or I was always doing something else wrong.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    I've written books and papers in Writer. It does the job well.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    LibreOffice is great and glad they are getting the shine they deserve.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    Intresting feature they have without implementing it

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  • [–] 9 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    On the other hand, openai's codex literally bundles in libreoffice https://simonwillison.net/2026/Sep/1/codex-libreoffice/

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I like LibreOffice, it's good

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    I love LibreOffice. It is a blast to the past to use it (for better or worse), and each app is incredibly flexible. I used it for creating practice plans last year, and the whiplash from Notion/Logseq and other "friendly" editing tools was tough to get used to. I wonder if there's room for an extension or built-in mode to present a simple or focus mode. It's been a while so I feel like I'd have to get back to using it daily to collect my thoughts on this 😅

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    LibreOffice also has a nice webdav integration so you can tie a Nextcloud account in and automatically checkout and edit documents in a multi user environment. Poor mans Sharepoint.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I don't mind AI, but I hate it being baked into every application with its own subscription to access. Just give me an MCP server to connect to when/if I decide I want to use AI with your application.

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  • [+] -14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

    Firefox has local AI built-in. I really wish people would stop referring to silicon valley technocrat cloud offerings as AI. AI has existed for 70 years. Plenty of academics and innovators that did the hard work to improve science and research are opposed to unchecked capitalists trying to exploit it for their oppressive endeavors. AI isn't inherently good or bad. If you hate technocratic tech bros then just say that.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    The Altmans, Palantirs and Musks all refer to their shitty products they're shoving in every product as 'AI', and people understand - they're talking about LLMs. The haters of that group say 'I fucking hate AI' and people understand - they're talking about big corporate LLMs, not some protein folding model that's helping to cure cancer.

    Its not complex, and people don't need to elaborate.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    The protein folding model was sort of a precursor to the LLMs we have now and advancements in LLMs may yet carry over to such models in the future too. It was also very much a big corporate thing, it was made by Google.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    They declared they have no AI features. The features in Firefox are still AI features. They aren’t needed. They’re a waste of development time and are useless.

    I literally say this as someone that has contributed to Firefox.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I have little against the local translation feature, especially given the fact it isn't bundled but a seperate download.

    That being said, there are higher priorities, like better history and bookmarks, because the current sidebars are 20+ years old and it shows. Chrome has had it figured out for 10 years straight now.

    The right way for AI features would be to partner with outside orgs and projects. As you said, they're a waste of development time. And given how much low hanging fruit there is, there's no justification for following AI trends instead of doing basic UX hygiene.

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