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[–] 84 points 8 months ago (8 children)

Cool, maybe the rest of Canada will follow?

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago

    Yukon and Saskatchewan already don't change their clocks.

    I work in BC and Yukon and I always have to check if we are on the same time or and hour difference because I can never remember.

    Going forward BC and Yukon will always be on the same time.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Ontario also has this law in place just waiting for Quebec and New York to make the move too.

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago

    This Saskatchewan resident welcomes BC to the more sane way of life!

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  • [–] 78 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    The legeslation has been in place for years, but we held off because we didn't want to be out of sync with Washington, Oregon, and California.

    From https://news.gov.bc.ca/releases/2026AG0013-000209:

    Recent actions from the U.S. have shifted how B.C. approaches decisions that merit alignment, including on time zones.

    Thanks Trump :D

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  • [–] 30 points 8 months ago

    Come on, Oregon, do the thing.

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    oh no, an update to tzdata coming

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm so excited for this. Even working from home I hate changing time cause it still messes with my sleep schedule and my cats feeding schedule.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    As a Saskatchewanian, I am so happy for BC!

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  • [–] 29 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Very good! Changing the clock twice a year is an insanity people accept as normal, and that shouldn't be the case. Please let Ontario be next (I know of weak sauce Bill 214).

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    It blows me away that we change the clock to meet corporate time tables vs having flexible work days.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    And not like it makes a damn difference anyways. It’s gonna be extra dark outside regardless of if we fuck with everyone’s schedule or not. One hour doesn’t make a significant difference in the amount of light we get in a day when we still just work for 8-9 hours of the day inside of a building.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Exactly. People tend to blame the winter darkness on the clock change but even if we didn't change our clocks, winter only gives us about 9 hours of sunlight during the shortest days of winter.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago*

    Yeah like, whoopidee doo, it’s light out during the morning while I’m off to work, I sure do get to enjoy that glimpse of daylight during my commute! Gonna be dark after I’m done regardless of the extra hour.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    This makes me so happy!

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago*

    Nice! The world has been so shit for years now, I didn't expect this kind of bottom-of-the-list legislation to pass until like 2056. Glad someone cares enough to sweat the small stuff. I hope the other provinces follow suit. Last I heard, Ontario was in a deadlock because NY State didn't want to budge on it, but you know, elbows up!

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    What if there was a standard time to move to? Wouldn't that be the standard?

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Daylight Savings Time, or Summer Time, is in use for 9 months of the year, and is thus the de facto standard. Daylight Wasting Time, or Winter Time, is only in use for 3 months of the year, which makes it the exception.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago

    I with it was permanent standard time, I am very sad they decided on year-round daylight.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Now I’m waiting for Australia to stick to one; then there won’t be a two hour staggered swing in time difference twice a year.

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    [–] 4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Goodbye to "high noon", "mid-day" and accurate sundials. Stupid to legislate an idiotic idea like "daylight savings" into permanence. But typical for morons to not think things through.

    At least stopping the unhealthy, dangerous practice of time change is a step in the right direction.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I don't give a flying fuck if we stay on DST or ST, just stop the seasonal switches. High noon is already inaccurate the further you move from the "center" of a timezone.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    Yeah, I agree with both of your opinions. We could just go back to the "real" time for the time zone, but the zone still means inaccuracies. Also, the whole concept of a clock is man made and can be whatever we want. Even more so, we can have lunch whenever we want, too - so it doesn't even matter when 12pm is, you can still have lunch when the sun is highest.

    In the end we just have to agree on any fixed point to count from. BUT IT MIGHT AS WELL BE COSMICALLY DEFINED 😭

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    To be fair, high noon is rarely 12:00 even without DST. West Saskatchewan and the Yukon have quite a big mismatch with solar time. The idea behind Sandford Fleming's innovation was that some mismatch is acceptable if it means you don't get a different time zone in every stop along the railway.

    Personally, I think this system is not really the best for the modern globalized age. I would prefer something like Swatch Internet Time or even just using UTC exclusively everywhere. It's just a social construct that the sun rises at what we label with numbers between 5 and 9 (usually), and we start working at what's labelled 9. You could just as easily (more easily in my opinion) shift those labels depending on geography, instead of using the same labels and deciding on an offset. But it will never happen because of inertia. Look how difficult it is to get rid of a dumb idea like the biannual clock shift (not to say DST) because of inertia.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    I actually heard an argument against permanent DST that I still haven't really been able to refute. The reasoning was that darker conditions in the mornings during winter could make things more hazardous for kids walking to school. In places with properly pedestrian-friendly infrastructure, it probably wouldn't be an issue, but at least in more suburban areas, I can't say I disagree. Changing back and forth twice a year is still silly, but I feel like I might prefer permanent standard time over permanent DST in a lot of places.

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    You’re either walking to or from school in the dark in more northern places, it’s an irrelevant argument.

    Shortest day of the year in my city is only 8 hours long.

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Or going to work in the dark, and going home in the dark. Daylight? Never heard of it.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    That's caused (at least in part) by assigning timezones according to politics rather than longitude. Some places have gotten really skewed.

    Anyway, most of us just want the government to pick one thing and stick with it. We don't care whether they pick DST, ST, or create a new half-hour timezone to split the difference so long as the changing back and forth stops.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    You know, I don't really think that raising a concern about the possibility of kids getting hit by cars that I hadn't heard discussed much before really falls into the same category as religious wingnuts scaremongering about "subversive" books or drag queens or whatever.

    I didn't even present it as some sort of urgent, insurmountable problem, I just didn't have any rebuttal for it in the moment when I heard it. The other replies have brought up good points that could help make it work. Was that really warranted?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    I can assure you kids are going to school in the dark when we're on standard time. I was actually in grade school when the US stayed on DST year round for a hot minute in the 70s. It was no big deal

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago
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    I'd like Ontario to follow>

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    I'm partly with you. The sleep research is pretty clear, from my understanding, that, in winter, daylight time is worse for sleep and mental health than standard time.

    But the research is also pretty clear that changing time zones is even worse, afaik.

    So, according to the science on sleep and mental health, the ranking of the options is:

    1. Permanent Standard Time
    2. Permanent Daylight Time
    3. Changing to/from Daylight Time

    But, on the other hand, there are also arguments for the social and economic benefits of having light to "do things" after work. I'm more inclined to think the sleep and mental health benefits of morning sunlight for resetting our collective circadian rhythms is more important, but I also accept that others disagree.

    Regardless, this is better for almost everyone. Some businesses, airlines especially, will face some complications, but it won't be a big deal in the long run. Saskatchewan has been like this forever. It'll be fine.

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    My initial reaction was "Finally!" but, honestly, I don't think this has affected me in years. Maybe 15 years ago, before all my devices tracking time were smart and self-updating, I could miss an appointment or something. Ever since, I just go to sleep and wake up when an alarm goes off and I don't even notice the time change.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Would it trouble you to do this though? Any reason to object? Like so many things, if it isn't a detriment to you and it could help others, why not get behind it?

    There's evidence for death and lost productivity associated with each of these biannual shifts. There's not a whole lot to support the pro daylight savings side of the argument.

    Also, your future self would likely support this. It is unlikely your ability to not notice the time change will persist as you become older.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    I think my post was pretty clear that my initial reaction was positive, then just a realization it doesn't matter much to me, so it's totally fine.

    Mostly though, I'm just responding because the combo of your username and your reply made me laugh.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    I moved to Japan a decade ago and there are not time changes (though I'd argue that, at least for eastern Japan, we're in the wrong timezone). It is much easier on my body not making that change twice a year. I have a really sensitive sleep schedule so this is very important to me.

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  • [+] -37 points 8 months ago (11 children)

    Not a fan.

    Daylight savings was/is my “whiner” test.

    If someone can’t handle DST then they can’t handle the smallest thing in the world - I have no time for them because literally everything else in the world is bigger and more complex so they’re incapable of dealing with anything.

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Would you like me to piss in your Cheerios? You know just to make you more hardened to difficult events.

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  • [+] -16 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    I’m already hardened. Others need to be as well or STFU.

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  • [+] -11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    You qualify for the STFU. Blocked. Enjoy.

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  • [+] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Daylight savings was/is my “whiner” test.

    If someone can’t handle DST then they can’t handle the smallest thing in the world - I have no time for them because literally everything else in the world is bigger and more complex so they’re incapable of dealing with anything.

    I love this hypocrisy. It's fantastic.

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    [+] 13 points 8 months ago* (2 children)
  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    Everytime they say this, they go out of their way to find opposition which they can then claim is 50% of people because they interviewed 2 people.

    Also the old picking the stupidest person in a crowd for an interview.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    However, 54 per cent of those who responded said it was important for B.C. to have aligning policies on daylight time with other jurisdictions.

    There's then a further section:

    Business leaders, YVR airport concerned

    I think you just saw that paragraph, came here to contradict the headline, and didn't consider that's not the only statistic the CBC was considering when calling it "mixed".

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    [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    Nice! Now do the rest of Canada!

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