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[–] 75 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Climate change is real and we're causing it

"I definitely did not do this and won't change anything I do."

Blue M&Ms cause cancer

"How could the M&M people do this to me?"

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  • [–] 110 points 10 months ago (10 children)

    The irony is that boomers have been alive long enough to remember how different the climate used to be. They'll remark how it never snows as much as it used to, or how there are more storms, fires, droughts, etc. Yet they refuse to see that climate change is what is causing this change.

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  • [–] 53 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I’m in my 30s and remember the weather being very different in my childhood… winter never had 30 degree differences between yesterday and today like we had this past week. Was nearly 60 degrees one day and then we got 6+ inches of snow the next day.

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  • [–] 40 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    i'm mid 40s in central europe and can clearly remember that summers were around 32°C max in my childhood, last 2 years we had 40°C. I can remember winter being a lot colder, regulary freezing the Danube river for extended periods, allowing skating - these times it's a bad idea stepping on the thin ice that never freezes over completely. And i can clearly remember huge amounts of insects, making a mess of the windshield when driving - nowadays the windshield nearly stays clean. The boomers are lying to themselves, because the truth is too hard to acknowledge.

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  • [–] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I'm assuming the hotter temperatures are also increased by how much concrete there is compared to back then. Also the floods. They build warehouses on fields and then be surprised all the water goes into rivers. I'm in my late 20s and remember ice skating on local river in the city and there being more snow that lasted longer. Now if it even snows it's gone in few days.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    I'm living in Vienna, having grown up in this city. I can assure you that while the city has grown, it actually put a lot of effort into primarily increasing population density instead of growing into the countryside (well, they have expanded too, but not by much in comparison to the population growth). The extra heat does not come from more concrete here - Vienna is one of the greenest large cities in Europe, and with lots of forest surrounding the west and the river going through it is a pretty privileged situation overall. Also, this year for example i can count the amount of days below 0°C on one hand - i haven't seen ice in any meaningful amount. All together i'd say our temperature window has shifted by around 10°C upwards since the late 80.

    Edit: Just looked it up, it really seems like the average didn't move as much as the temperature maxima/minima.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Also, this year for example i can count the amount of days below 0°C on one hand

    I can count the number of days this year on one hand...

    For real though, I knew what you meant. I just couldn't resist the opportunity (after all, there's only five days a year when this joke might apply)

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  • [–] 22 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Yet they refuse to see that climate change is what is causing this change.

    If they accept climate change, it means they have to acknowledge that their actions helped cause this and it means they need to change their behavior. People aren't good at either but most Boomers especially suck at self-reflection.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    The boomers in my life are starting to come around with it but they believe and combination of

    1. it's not man made
    2. it won't be as bad as people say/we can't know the future
    3. green tech like electric vehicles are too expensive

    The first two are frustrating but don't really matter if we can engineer our way out of three. My dad got solar panels because they would pay for themselves eventually. I'm not saying we can just green tech our way out of the climate crisis but if green tech gets good enough it will go a LONG way

    These are just anecdotes from interacting with my family. Your mileage may vary

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    It's not that climate change is causing this change of climate. The change of climate is climate change. That's why it's ridiculous for someone to say "Oh, the climate's changing. But it isn't climate change!"

    Oh no, it must be those pesky democrats and their secret government weather control /s. Trying to convince people to believe in climate change so they can... checks notes... promote self-sufficiency through renewable energy...

    What's causing it is primarily greenhouse gasses along with several other compounding factors (deforestation, concrete and asphalt coverage, melting ice caps, etc.).

    So yes, human-induced. No one would run a gas-powered lawnmower indoors, but somehow they believe that billions of people driving outside every day is totally fine?

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  • [–] 35 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Most of the boomers I knew growing up acknowledged climate change.

    They also acknowledged that they didn't care because they wouldn't be around long enough to feel the severe effects of it.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    I've never heard anyone say that about climate change, really.

    Those that agree with facts know it's a thing and really would love to see it go, but what can we do? We're not politicians, we're not rich, we're not powerful.

    We're separating our plastics and paper and what not, we try to avoid the car, we use public transportation, bicycles.... But what are we supposed to do? We cannot fix this, er cannot stop this.

    Just saying "boomers don't care" is a bullshit statement. In not a boomer, but I know enough of them. Just saying that it's all the boomers fault is easy enough but it won't solve anything.

    Start at least blaming politicians and the rich. They're the ones that got us here, they're the ones that keep is here

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    I dunno, most boomers I know, including my parents, do not really care much and think it's just the next generation's problem and, just like themselves, every generation has their own problems 🤷‍♀️

    I also blame the rich and politicians first and foremost but there is in fact a little blame to go around to all of us too, including me, but also totally boomers too lol

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Listen, I don't disagree with you regarding the class divide, but this is my own experience with plenty members of the older generation, including my own parents.

    I'm not saying they all do, nor do I really think it's a starting point for dealing with the issue either, but that's what this meme is about. Again, it's just my own experience and I'm sorry that it seems to upset you.

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  • [–] 0 points 10 months ago

    Maybe it's a bit strong to say they don't care. Most I know, they do care but it's low on the priority list, after "the economy" which affects their savings held up in stocks...

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Or, speaking as someone right on the cusp of boomers / gen x, we acknowledged and cared about it, but there wasn't enough support for it to allow us to do anything beyond rambling and sounding like a bunch of fanatical (^('s.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    You mean, the current consequences? 😂

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    No unfortunately it's the future consequences. We've already passed the +2c of global warming two and a half decades earlier than expected. Which was the threshold for significant but not world ending effects if we had hit it in 2050. At our current pace we're looking at the near worst case scenario by 2050, which only a small percentage of boomers might live to see. Most won't see most of the effects of climate change.

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  • [–] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

    Common scenario to collect data about gullible people and scam them later - or just to get them to like a certain page and then sell the page with the likes.

    Local supermarket chain is giving away free cars, just like this post and add a comment. Oh, and by the way the page was created two days ago and has 15 likes - must be legit!

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    To be fair, the dye they used to use for Red M&Ms was banned for being a suspected carcinogen in the 70s.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago

    Climate change has literally always been real.

    You never noticed how it changes between seasons? Are you blind?!

    /s

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    Next are you gonna suggest green jelly beans don't cause autism?

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  • [–] 71 points 10 months ago* (12 children)

    Stop it about boomers.

    Some boomers, yes, but also some GenX and millenials.

    In fact, the last election was heavily influenced by millenials shifting to the right.

    But of course, not every milenial

    Dividing based on age is part of the political agenda.

    I don't think you want to solve the issue. At first blush it seems to me you have an alt account arguing the opposite.

    That's the only reason I can think for someone starting a post with "boomers".

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  • [–] 25 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Stop it about boomers. Some boomers, yes, but also some GenX and millenials.

    Thank you - beat me to saying this. (And Gen Z too)

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    You worded that very well. I don't like people calling out generations like this but struggle on making a well formed reply.

    Also it's odd that they lack the understanding that one day their generation will be the old one and they will be subject to blame. Unless people just stop doing it!

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    A story as old as time.

    For many adults, children are at the same time "smarter than their parents" and also "more disrespectful than their parents at their age".

    And children think that the old people "left them without opportunities"

    They've been saying that before biblical times.

    The funny thing is that I've observed that children who blame adults become the adults who blame children.

    The well adjusted children become well adjusted adults who don't blame others.

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    white boomers wanted these policies

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Do you mean the people profiting are white boomers? Many are generation X. Some are millennials.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    I bet you wouldn't make such a sweeping statement about a racial minority. The percentage of boomers (like me) who vote for progressive policies is pretty large, though not a majority. It's not that dissimilar from GenX and millennials.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I bet you wouldn’t make such a sweeping statement about a racial minority

    I bet you wouldn't believe the amount of sweeping statements made to my face about racial minorities by white boomers

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I bet I would, but I also bet it's not all boomers making those statements (older than early 70s are Silents, younger than mid 50s are GenX). I also don't believe that it's okay to engage in sweeping stereotypes just because other people engage in sweeping stereotypes.

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  • [–] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Where does the 97% figure come from? I thought it's pretty much unanimous at this point?

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  • [–] 19 points 10 months ago

    97% was reported by earlier small surveys, but I think the most rigorous and widely reported survey of scientists was Harris Interactive in 2007.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus_on_climate_change#2005%E2%80%932009

    That was followed up in 2010 by a survey of specifically climate scientists, whom hit 97-98%.

    The 'concensus' has been constantly challenged in conservative media and circles so there have been many such surveys / meta-analyses continuing over the years and it's been hitting 100% for the last several years. If any idiot ever parrots "science doesn't work on concensus" my usually response is something like, "no it doesn't, but when an entire field of scientists have determined a theory to have vast evidence-based backing its considered settled. The only thing that would change that is significant contradictory data being presented, yet instead every year we're measuring huge volumes of data that confirm the concensus."

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago
    [–] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 child)

    If you or someone you know are experiencing climate change please consult a radical extremist. Symptoms of climate change may include:

    Its hot when its not suppose to be

    Its cold when its not supposed to be

    Its very hot then very cold then very hot...unexpectedly

    Rising sea levels

    Glacial melt

    Oil companies suppressing the media

    Large scale science denial

    Radical extremism is a known treatment for societal decay. Results may very.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (30 children)

    Well, whoever posted it just linked them, didn't they?

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  • [+] -6 points 10 months ago* (29 children)

    Shown it on a TV that did the whole gig of Snowden right before Snowden showed up and they did him too, without him, too.

    All over a decade ago.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (21 children)

    Am I too high, or does whatever you just said make no sense at all?

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (20 children)
  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (19 children)

    Is that a quote from the old show?

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (18 children)

    No. Just describing the reality behind the picture posted.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (17 children)

    What does it mean, what does newsroom mean in context?

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (16 children)

    It's a three season show that told it didn't tell what Snowden said right before Snowden did it.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago* (15 children)

    It did not say what Snowden said, before he did say it?

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago (14 children)
  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (13 children)

    show that told it didn’t tell what Snowden said

    The show did not say what Snowden said

    right before Snowden did it.

    And they did not say it before Snowden did.

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (12 children)

    You either didn't watch it or didn't understand what was said. I know. I understand. They talk so fast with so many dimensions on perspectives it's difficult to be aware of much of it.

    Still, they did.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    I'm just trying to figure out what you're saying. I'm guessing you have a different primary language

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  • [–] -3 points 10 months ago* (10 children)

    No. Listening to them and picking their pi holes did open a few (understated, sarcastically if you haven't seen it yet) dim's I'm still sorting though, in all fairness. That, and I've picked those up a few exponentials I've not even begun "counting" yet.

    Stephen McKinley Henderson's Solomon Hancock

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (9 children)
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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (4 children)

    So what are you, a troll that speaks nonsense? Is that your accounts gag

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    Depends who actually can read. Or even ask a question without an insult.

    Trolls insult. Exactly how do you feel offended, personally?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    Offended, what? You talk in nonsense and refuse to explain any of it. That's why I'm asking.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    Which instance is the aneurysm posting community on?

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  • [–] -5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I've been banned from your Lemmy for talking like this. Apparently there are unwritten rules for talking about blindmensions.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (3 children)

    Have you tried not talking like ai slop?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    New question: How tall is the world's tallest building?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    That's not a question. That's a run around and find someone else's achievement.

    You want to talk with me about yours or mine? Or shit, we do both. I'll even sideswipe your original postulation of a "question" and reference what it used to be.

    Ever seen an old set of US dollar bill arrays?

    Know what a Talisman is?

    Fold those pre-9-11 (k)not-paper bucks and watch the towers do what happens then and there if you stand and watch them from seeing through the Washington Arch.

    In that obvious order, 5-10-20-50-100 shown that event broadcast for decades to all the masses.

    Of course, that's an Aeon ago. And the reprinted all that sigil to help people forget what really happen and subscribe to being watched at all seconds of life letting go of all sense of law that might prevent such.

    But Drugs-Are-Bad-Mkay-lobe-ultra.

    You ever do them and do anything other than be the asshole they tell you that the people who do are, you'll see something else. You'll be something else. You won't be what they told you to be.

    Living isn't being a Golem. Living is doing logic that we just don't quite have words to describe exactly how money isn't real like that tape measure in your toolbox isn't real space.

    It's a measure but other factors of other dimension's change even the very nature of those dimensions like Yin-Yang short shows the concept.

    What do you think the height of the building was important to the time traveling tight rope walker betwen those towers.

    Towers of Job right there. And you thought that was work.

    ->FACEPALM<-

    Like, oh, you thought that was sandalwood and the spear was it? Time is just not to be used lie that and then you might see words that don't exist, yet, again.

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Better eat the green M&M's instead

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago

    That's what happens when you grow up with the National Enquirer in every checkout line and there's no internet to fact check anything. The GOP has been grooming the whole generation since Nixon.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    People believe based on feelings, not facts. That's all it is.

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    [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    For being a science meme group, I’m seeing a distinct lack of understanding of how psychology, especially cognitive bias, works.

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago*

    For being a science meme community, it's a place people can vent about things that they can't vent about elsewhere. We can understand psychological phenomena, but still be personally frustrated by it.

    Though I do wish this post weren't targeted toward Boomers. Younger people buy into this type of thing, too.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Better eat the green M&Ms

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    I don't know, the %3 of scientists I paid were awfully expensive, I should probably trust them for ROI.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    Luckily my parents acknowledged it long ago. And they have always been careful to not be wasteful. Public transportations, travel less and only by trains, less heating/cooling, recycle, collect rain water. They've done enough and sadly, there's little else average people can do.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    If they can't handle the blue ones, I'm afraid to tell them what the yellow ones are doing to them

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  • [–] -2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Blaming all the world’s troubles on old people does jackshit for solving anything. I get it, many of you need a scapegoat and an arbitrary “generation” to blame is socially binding for you. But why “boomers”? When they die off, will you blame Gen X next? Then the millennials as they age; age like ALL people. If you really want to find root cause generations, look into those Nineteenth Century folks and their penchant for wanton industry and slavery. Or Roman Empire people with their imperialist expansion and Christianization… Or just sit on your hands and gripe about grandpa…

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