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[–] 127 points 1 year ago (4 children)

All these fools trying to add hydrogen to water when they should be focusing on dechlorinating table salt.

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  • [–] 84 points 1 year ago (12 children)
  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Bro, BRO! Check this out, get extra OXYGEN in H₂O₂!!1!

    DOUBLE the oxygen!

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  • [–] [S] 36 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    H3O water refers to hydronium ions, which make water more acidic. However, stable H3O water in bottled form doesn’t naturally exist—water always rebalances to H₂O. Pure H3O isn't drinkable it's too acid, It's ionized water, without any specific features. It's a publicity trick to sell it more expensive, like also this one, low in calories.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Reminds me when I saw "Gluten free" on plain raw bacon packages.

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  • [+] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    At that point idk how you could actually eat anything from a grocery store since everything there is likely processed in a facility that handles wheat. In fact, i would say meat products and farm to table produce are probably the only items at a grocery store that haven't come into contact with some sort of allergen.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    'Plain raw bacon' is the kind that doesn't have spices.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago* (16 children)

    I have to assume it's just made sparkling with hydrogen instead of carbon dioxide. Heard about beer being hydrogenated in Japan several years ago and it had the side effect/party trick of being able to ignite your burps so you could belch fireballs.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Dissolved hydrogen is effectively acidifying it, no? That would be chugging fizzing acid. Must've been fun.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    You get carbonic acid when carbonating water and some people like that taste, for some reason 🤷‍♂️

    It's crazy tho how I was thinking similarly after posting the previous comment. If cabonated water gets the bitterness from carbonic acid, what would hydrogenated or nitrogenated water taste like? I've had Guiness and Pepsi Nitro. Both are made bubbly with nitrogen. And while the beer is good, the Pepsi just tasted like normal Pepsi, but like you had left it unsealed overnight.

    Never had anything that was artificially hydrogenated, though. 🤔

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    You get carbonic acid when carbonating water and some people like that taste, for some reason 🤷‍♂️

    I'm one of those people but I couldn't tell you why either. I just like sour, I guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Carbonic acid is a weak acid, so the acidity isn't as strong. Most the protons are bound in carbonic acid. Whereas in dissolved hydrogen, all the hydrogen molecules are necessarily ionized, giving what should be an acid quite some orders stronger.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Chemistry teacher here. No way do those hydrogen molecules ionize. If they ionize, that would require making the entire solution positively charged, or filled with singlet hydrogen. Just like dissolving oxygen or nitrogen in water, the gas will dissolve, but not dissociate.

    (See my reply above for full details)

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Chemistry teacher here! Hydrogen would only acidify it if it dissociated. Much like how you can dissolve oxygen or nitrogen gas into water, any gas can be dissolved into water. They don't break apart, they just float as molecules inside the water. It's just like when sugar dissolves. Salt breaks apart, because it's ionic. Sugar, most organics, and diatomic gases like H2, N2, and O2 don't have enough affinity with the water molecules to dissociate (or, at least, not sufficient to dissociate appreciably)

    When you get something gnarly is if you have a molecule containing something that does have stronger affinity with the water. Carbon Dioxide, Sulfur Di- and Trioxide, Nitrogen Oxides, and other oxygen-bearing covalent gases react with water because the central atoms attract the oxygen in the H2O, while the oxygens surrounding them have partial negative charges from the unpaired electrons, attracting the hydrogens in the water. This causes the water to be ripped apart, creates oxyanions such as CO3^2-^, SO3^2-^, SO4^2-^, NO2^-^, or NO3^-^, and leaves protons in the water from the now-dissociated Hydrogens (except for weak acids such as Carbonic Acid, which only partly dissociate from the hydrogen, such that all intermediate species are actually in equilibrium: H2CO3, HCO3^-^, CO3^2-^, and CO2). Same goes for elemental Chlorine, Fluorine and Bromine. All of these rip the water apart and create the hypo- oxyacid and the hydroacid of the specie (e.g. Cl2 + H2O --> HClO + HCl)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    What if we leave out the electrons, and just add hydrogen ions, aka good old naked protons? Might be tricky mixing them in before they pull free electrons from wherever, but if they're high enough energy we're fast enough...

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Most soda has a pH of like 3, so probably can't be muchh worse.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Turns out solubility of hydrogen is quite low (to be expected) so it's unlikely enough hydrogen would dissolve to burn a hole in a tongue. You'd really have to want to do it, in which case there are easier ways to do so than pressurised supercritical hydrogen.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    No, hydrogen (gas) doesn't spontaneously dissociate into H^+^ when dissolved in water because it's covalently bonded; it remains H2, just like nitrogen remains N2 when dissolved in water. Acidity is a measure of the concentration* of H^+^, so dissolving H2 doesn't impact the acidity.

    *actually the activity

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Thanks, I never understood - what's the practical difference between pH and activity?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    pH is the negative of the (base 10) logarithm of the activity of H^+^: pH = -log10(aH+)

    If you mean "what's the difference between concentration and activity," activity is the "effective concentration" of a species. For ideal solutions, activity is equal to concentration. For real solutions, interactions between the components in the solution may cause a species to "act" like it is more or less concentrated.

    Dilute solutions at standard conditions are close to ideal: activity is about equal to concentration. But consider a concentrated solution of a salt: the activity will tend to be lower than the concentration because the cations and anions are not completely independent as in an ideal solution, but tend to "shield" each other due to electrostatic forces.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    As a chemistry teacher who regularly ignites Hydrogen gas, I cannot even imagine how dangerous it would be to ignite a hydrogen belch. That shit POPS.

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  • [–] 117 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Fun fact: There are more hydrogen atoms in a single molecule of water than there are stars in the entire solar system.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This is the kind of bullshit they come up with when you don't allow them to put the good stuff in it.

    Radium, that was the real thing, not this shit.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'd like some irradiated cocaine please.

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  • Story time! Courtesy of my 7th--grade Biotech teacher:

    Many years ago, he was working in a bio lab where they were studying the effects of drugs on the brain. Specifically, they were trying to isolate the specific paths and locations in the brain that these drugs would build up in the highest concentrations. That year, they were studying cocaine.

    Of course, you couldn't be experimenting with cocaine on humans, because that would lead to everybody having too good a time, I guess, and the federal government wouldn't stand for it. As such, they were injecting cocaine into rats. Now, giving these little guys the time of their lives was still not the purpose of the research, so they needed a way to easily find out where the cocaine was going in the rats' brains. As such, they tagged the cocaine. In order to ensure the tagging didn't affect the binding and distribution in the body, however, they had to tag it, not with a dye, but by making it radioactive, at which point they could use whatever Magical Machine™ to take a 3D scan of their heads and find the radiation (though It's possible he was simply leaving out the bit where they dissected the rat brains to find where they were radioactive, which I now think far more likely)

    Unfortunately, aside from getting these rats literally blitzed out of their minds on a one-way-trip to the land of cheese and honey, no super-rats were created by what otherwise sounds like a plot straight out of an offbeat MCU movie.

    No, the practical upshot of this was that it was some poor sod's job to actually mix radioactive cocaine into solution for injection. Since they needed to do it a LOT, they needed a lot of solution. So, in their infinite wisdom, they had the following setup:

    1. a refrigerator, where they kept the saline and radioactive cocaine (and whatever else they were using to make the solution)
    2. immediately to the right of the fridge, a fume hood, where they would actually do the mixing.
    3. atop the fridge, two unlabelled beakers: in one, the saline, ready for mixing; in the other, the radioactive cocaine solution, prepared and ready for injection.

    This was the point at which an entire crate of lab rats was toppled, releasing all of them onto the floor...

    Of course, the entire lab is suddenly in chaos. One person is trying to use a net they had prepared for such an occasion to catch the rats that are running around the desk area, while two more are trying to tag-team a rat that ran behind a bookshelf. My teacher, though, is chasing a rat. A rat that is running straight for the cozy space under the fridge. With all the alacrity of a wastrel postgraduate who has never heard the term "dexterity" outside the context of tabletop games, he runs headlong into the fridge, and suddenly feels a splash on his head and hears the shattering of glass on the floor below.

    While it didn't take too long for them to pull out the Geiger counter and determine that he was not going to get a supervillain backstory (with the high of his life and cancer on the side), you can bet they labeled those beakers after that, and kept them in the fume hood.

    And that, dear friends, is how we learned about Lab Safety in my school!

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    I assume they mean H2. Y'all laugh but H2 and H2O are different things. You can have both.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Don't you know that 100% of all people who drink water die?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Most drug dealer consum some on a daily basis!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So do the vast majority of convicted criminals and politicians. Coincidence?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    probably not!

    Yet that does not imply that any politician could be linked to any type of crime, of course... even convicted criminals and drug dealers are most likely innocent... don't look for me...

    But be carefull with water!

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Ladies and gentlemen, they’d done it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Still better than oxygen-infused water

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Why on earth drinking hydrogen-infused water increase athletic performance? I honestly doubt any claims made by this shit product.

    Edit: I am no chemistry expert, but wouldn't most hydrogen just collect above the water surface and as soon the can is opened, it escapes. I don't know if it happens or not, if I am wrong please correct me.

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  • Relieving dehydration does increase athletic performance, however

    Now, sure, this might not have any difference compared to plain old water, but the marketing never claimed that!

    And yes this sort of shitty trickery is exactly what they're doing

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Is that the evil twin of the oxigenated water?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
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    need a torch? shake your water

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Are you not drinking H3O?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Don't have open flames when opening that bad boy.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Why not infuse with additional oxygen? Huffing those capsules is a strain on the budget.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 1 year ago
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    Just why?? Nature has made H₂O perfect the way it is! I don't want an HxO! How would that even work?? Would it be ionized? I will literally commit murder if I see one of those.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 1 year ago*

    there are two kind of food products, natural and quimical pimped cheap crap to create more incommings to the industry, the best in last type are the US, because of this the first world country with the lowest life span.

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