It's coming from the same cohort of people who lynched black men for looking the wrong way at a white woman. There's no unforgivable deed to them, only in groups and out groups.

"Also, and hear me out, asshole enablers like you will ensure he always has a brighter future."

It's not that they can't read, they're bringing it up specifically to cast doubt on victims and give plausible deniability for rapists.

The whole Defund The Police and Ending Prisons isn't about doing away with them altogether. The most radical leftist knows that would be stupid. But warehousing criminals, as they get more and more sociopathic/psychopathic, isn't a healthy system for a healthy society.

People want the visceral satisfaction of a just punishment, but that's a wasted opportunity. We have a person that has gone down a bad road, and we have the choice of helping them get back on track, or not. Society is improved with the latter, so shouldn't we adopt that strategy, rather than just punishing?

There are going to be people who are irredeemable, that's just reality. Serial killers, out-of-control psychopaths, child molesters, etc, can't be helped, and those people have to be warehoused. But most people can respond to rehabilitation, as prisons in Europe prove. Their recidivism rate is far, far lower than ours.

We have been doing the wrong things for many years, just because they look good in the media, or make ignorant voters feel good. In ALL things, we should be looking at what other nations are doing right, and start adopting those strategies. I'm sick of our country doing stupid shit, just because we've always done it that way, and it makes the worst people in America happy.

I remember once seeing a news story where someone who had just gotten out of prison murdered someone. People in the comments were saying he shouldn't have been let out. How after years in prison, of course he's going to be dangerous. Gotta love when the tough on crime people accidentally realize the futility of the prison system.

The goal SHOULD be to make criminals into productive members of society. Unfortunately, the actual goal in many places is to make criminals keep reoffending to make more money for the business of incarcerating people. Or sometimes the goal is just to punish, with no thought about the long-term utility. Some people just think some people deserve to suffer and don't care about the utility for society. It's the same reason they oppose social safety nets.

Restorative justice, and yeah it's a very valuable goal

Some people are just born evil. Or they're born with something broken in their brains that can never be fixed.

Go talk to some teachers. Ask them about the worst of the worst. You'll hear some stories.

You hear a lot about "the school to prison pipeline," but there are some kids that you can just look at them and say, "that kid is going to die in prison." I'm talking about kids that assault their teachers and other students. I'm talking kids that steal, lie, and manipulate people in cruel and vindictive ways. In some cases they make a game out of deliberately creating false allegations of inappropriate behavior on the part of their teachers. They actively seek to destroy lives. I'm talking about kids that go through every program and intervention, that receive every form of support and counseling imaginable. Kids that receive nothing but compassion, caring and understanding...and respond by treating other human beings as disposable garbage fit only for their amusement. It's a rare kid that is truly this evil, but there are some real monsters out there. Some people are just born evil. There are some people that will simply never see the humanity in other human beings. There is no amount of counseling or coaching that can fix such profoundly broken souls. The best we can do is to warehouse them, to lock them in a place with their own kind, where they'll never be able to hurt an innocent person ever again.

You cannot teach someone to have empathy. You cannot teach someone to care for other people. You either do, or you don't.

I was reading a story on 'why are fraternities even still allowed' and it brought up that every judge talked to about the Stanford case had geek letters in their office from their fraternity, then I remember this legal advice I got once, it went like this 'wait till your trial is appointed a judge, find out what fraternity said judge was in, then look for a lawyer who was also in that fraternity. ' apparently it's VERY effective. So yeah... it's actually really crazy.

That's put perfectly thanks

I've known people who believed their partner was consenting, but were told much later that they committed rape. I knew the ppl well enough to believe they wouldn't intentionally hurt someone and the accuser didn't file charges. Maybe one or both, or neither partners in the two couples were lying? But in both cases the accuser + accused remained friends afterward. Should that really be in the same category as violent sexual assault?

Rape is certainly serious but it's much easier to quantify murder -- victim is dead or alive-- than how much of a rape was this rape.

Why does it look like his spider emblem has a phat badonkadonk

Ironically Pete calling out Brock's fake pics in Spiderman 3

Did I misunderstand your comment, or are you trying to argue that recreational drug use is as bad as being a rapist? I dunno about you, but I much rather have a drug user in office than a sex offender.

This reeks of low effort misogynist propaganda.

I think the point being missed here is that someone's whole life can get ruined even if they're innocent.

This. This comes up when people whine about the unfairness of checking credit for apartments/jobs or standardized test scores for college. The way people bitch and moan, you'd think the landlord is going to burn down the house if you have a single late payment on your credit report. But you have to put yourself in the shoes of the other person and acknowledge that it's not more fair to ignore those things. It's just kind of arbitrary on the margins.

more of one of those would be great.

It's more like, won't someone please think of the innocent people whose lives are permanently ruined because of slander? That's why we have a legal system, and everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

You can't have a certain category of crime for which all accusations are be taken at face value and truthful by default.

You shouldn't need a conditional like "as long as" anything. You should be fine with it when rapists are penalized, unconditionally. Do better.

Not to mention false charges are already penalized. The point of this is that the true ones ruin the victim's life too.

huh.... not a bad idea...