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[–] 14 points 3 days ago (5 children)

False reports of rape and sexual assault fall in line with false reporting of other crimes. Between 2-5%.

Again, one of the most important challenges for successfully investigating and prosecuting cases of non-stranger sexual assault is the idea that many – or even most – reports are false. As long as this belief is accepted by law enforcement professionals, prosecutors, jurors, and others, our efforts to improve the criminal justice response to sexual assault will have only limited impact. Only those cases that look like our societal stereotype of “real rape” will be successfully investigated and prosecuted.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    They are inextricably entwined. When people only consider a certain type of rape "real rape", it impacts which cases are investigated and prosecuted and what is considered a false claim.

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  • [–] -2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Yes they are intertwined, but still there's an important difference and I think it's useful to be clear. But apparently we can't talk about it here or messages get deleted. Oh well, enforce the hive mind at all costs, I guess.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

    You're mixing two concepts here. 1) The inaccuracy of stereotypical rape definition, and 2) The existence of false accusations.

    Then why didn't you admit they were intertwined with your initial comment? You didn't because you falsely asserted that they are two different concepts.

    Some false accusations are labeled as such because of people's perception of what entails rape.

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  • [–] -1 points 3 days ago

    They are distinct things that are interrelated. Like the pressure and temperature of a gas. Distinct things to measure and understand, yet one tends to affect the other unless you're very careful. In the topic of this thread, it's very important to make the distinction: an accusation is not a false just because it doesn't follow the stereotypical definition. So we need to be clear when we're talking about false accusations, ie if we're not talking about incorrect definitions - but real malicious or erroneous false accusations. And that's an important facet of this discussion because although it's quite small and similar to other crime accusations; this particular type of false accusation is very hard to defend oneself against and it can ruin lives. And even more importantly, can make it harder for real victims, especially when you add on the problem where different people have different definitions of the crime.

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  • [–] -5 points 3 days ago*

    Well, your own sources say the opposite, so you are contradicting yourself, or perhaps you didn’t actually read your own sources, but instead sent whatever you thought supported your biases.

    Methodologically rigorous research finds 2-8%

    In contrast, when more methodologically rigorous research has been conducted, estimates for the percentage of false reports begin to converge around 2-8%.

    • For example, in a multi-site study of 8 U.S. communities involved in the “Making a Difference” (or “MAD”) Project, data were collected by law enforcement agencies for all sexual assault reports received in an 18-24 month period. Of the 2,059 cases that were included in the study, 140 (7%) were classified as false.

    This is particularly noteworthy because a number of measures were taken to protect the reliability and validity of the research. First, all participating law enforcement agencies were provided training and technical assistance in an ongoing way to ensure that they were applying consistent definitions for a false report. In addition, a random sample of cases was checked for data entry errors.

    More information on the MAD Project is available at http://www.evawintl.org/.

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