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[–] 0 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm talking about people who get absolutely every opportunity to learn compassion and empathy for other human beings. Some folks will go through all the trainings you give them, ignore them, and laugh in your face. Some people just don't give a fuck about you or anyone else. If you can't recognize that other people have innate value, there's no helping you.

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    If you can’t recognize that other people have innate value, there’s no helping you.

    You say that about unrepentant criminals, but your attitude demonstrates a lack of recognition of their innate value as people. Really this is an inconsistent, hypocritical worldview to have and I reject it categorically.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    No. I don't reject anyone's value as a person. But I can also recognize that some people simply do not want or cannot learn to play nice with others. Beyond a certain point, when someone just doesn't want to change, the best you can do is to keep them from hurting innocent people.

    People like you are why teachers end up getting assaulted. Violent kids end up staying in classrooms long past the point they are objectively a threat to everyone around them. Administrators resist expulsion because they think like you do. You recognize the innate value of criminals, but you fail to recognize the innate value of their victims.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago (1 child)

    Beyond a certain point, when someone just doesn’t want to change, the best you can do is to keep them from hurting innocent people.

    Yes, I understand that. My issue is with what seems to be our best solution, which is to consign these people to essentially torture. If they are truly incapable of learning any better, there's no point in doing anything to them except keep them from harming others, yet we get off on making them suffer.

    People like you are why teachers end up getting assaulted.

    Go fuck yourself.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    And what is your solution, oh wise sage? Some people don't want to be helped. There is no program or intervention you can do to reach these people. Again, at some point the best you can do is put the needs of the many over the needs of the few and keep the psychopaths from hurting innocent people.

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