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[–] 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Human infested cities. Cat infested cafés. Cattle infested farms.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Humans infested every place including oceans honestly

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Humans are a disease. You are a cancer on this planet.

    Edit: Are we so old, you and I, that no one else gets the Matrix ref?

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I'm taking this far too seriously for a meme, but I already looked it up out of curiosity so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

    To inhabit a place in unpleasantly large numbers; to plague, harass.

    https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/infest

    Interestingly (at least to me) it looks like it's related to "manifest'.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Actually marinas like the one pictured or "canal estates" often create environments that become "infested" with pests and predators. Some of which for example contain bull sharks in plague proportions. Yes sharks live in the ocean but anyone living next to a canal teaming with them would conclude that there is an "investation".

    Bull sharks are unique in that they can somehow retain salt from ocean / salt / brackish water which allows them to operate in fresh water. They're also more aggressive than other species, or perhaps just more likely to grab at movement in murky river water.

    I remember watching a documentary suggesting that bull shark attacks might have been the inspiration for the Jaws series, after a spate of attacks in estuaries in the US in the years prior.

    Jeremy Wade on River Monsters TV series also had an episode about them.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 months ago

    We also kill millions of sharks per year, while they're responsible for maybe 10 human deaths per year (worldwide).

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  • [–] 8 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    This is why festivals are called that all teeming with wretched humans and their various parasites

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago

    Eh, we see lots of people infested places and they can also live there. The two things can both be true. (Granted the number of sharks needed for this title is a bit low).

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  • [–] 36 points 2 months ago (25 children)

    Isn't that usually how infestations work though?

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  • [–] 39 points 2 months ago (16 children)

    Humans infest shark habitats. You don't see sharks coming into your gated community, do you?

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (14 children)

    No, sharks rarely infest gated communities. The point was that infestations usually consist of animals that live in the place they are undesired.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    No, the point is that indigenous populations are not infesting their own natural habitats.

    For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    That's a different point though. If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they're invasive to the house and it's not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    If you have a termite infestation, you might say that they're invasive to the house and it's not their natural element. However you might also say that they live there, which is equally true.

    But the post is about sharks in the ocean. It is their natural habitat, they live there, but because they're sometimes inconvenient to humans, humans sometimes use the phrase "shark-infested waters", which can be damaging because it frames disrupting the ecosystem as some kind of defensive act.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    For example, "Native Americans" did not "infest" the United States. White people did.

    Do you imagine the various indigenous populations of Americas popped out of the ground like mushrooms? They're pretty far from their "natural habitat" in the plains of sub-saharan Africa... Or is that too far back in history and their "natural habitat" is in Siberia and Polynesia?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    It's not that they came from nowhere, but rather that they aren't pests. Invaders slaughtered them and colonized the country, and in modern times are actively destroying ecosystems and the environment.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    So the right phrasing would be "no, it's their natural habitat", not "no, they live there", since, and this was my point if you go back, if an animal infests something it usually lives there, making the point in the post redundant.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (4 children)
  • [–] 18 points 2 months ago (7 children)

    Aren't infestations about something that wasn't there before and doesn't actually belong there?

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (5 children)

    No, it is about their presence being wanted or not. I don't want to go to a swamp because is infested with mosquitoes for example, mosquitoes were always there.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/infestation
    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/infest

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    I saw both links pop up as well. I opted to go with the first, standard, book— webster’s instead of cherry picking.

    The problem is, both meanings are correct. However, the “troublesome” definition is primary.. and look at the example given:

    1 to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner

    shark-infested waters

    2 to live in or on as a parasite

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    We are aware of the dictionary definition. OP was precisely about arguing that that definition is a based on a fallacy.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Present where they are unwanted, but often used to describe their natural habitat.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    I see. The word infested has nothing to do with being their natural habitats or not, it means that there's plenty of an animal we don't want for whatever reason, otherwise we would say that it is rich in those animals.

    Edit: Oh, second I see. The fallacy is that they are using a wrong definition that is creeping into a common use of the word not yet in the dictionary.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    then what does ever infest anything

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago*

    On a related note, the “Cities” episode of Planet Earth is an interesting one. Human cities are the fastest growing ecosystem on Earth, so why wouldn’t our fellow planetary inhabitants want to take our shit when we’ve been taking theirs?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    infest verb in·​fest in-ˈfest infested; infesting; infests Synonyms of infest transitive verb

    1 : to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner shark-infested waters

    2 : to live in or on as a parasite

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Oktober-fest;

    1 : to spread or swarm in or over in a troublesome manner buxom-waitress-in traditional-dress infested waters

    2 : to live in or on as a completely smashed parasite

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Bro, the way I'm infesting my pants right now...

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Not like this Palestinian infested west bank!

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    [–] 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Shark housing waters.
    En-sharked waters.
    Shark-able waters.
    Bity waters.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    To be fair, humans infest the land.

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    [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I will upvote sailing content in all its forms! That's a Sunfish btw

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I mean... that applies pretty much any type of infestation.

    The bed bugs live there too, for generations.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Bed Bug genocide is a genocide I can get behind!

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If a particular section of water has a much higher density of sharks than usual, that fits the definition of "infested"

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    I think this is more of a modern "the environment is fucked" viewpoint, where people need reminding that nature has a right to be there, and when a predator is bountiful and has a healthy ecosystem, it's a great sign for that area.

    Back in the day when nature was just the default, we would fear shark infested water, or bears, wolves, etc. people were terrified of wolves. They ate humans. It was scary shit.

    Now we're super excited when an area has a healthy wolf habitat going for it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    God damn right!

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