Do butterflies infest homes and destroy property?
I feel like it's less what they look like, and more how they impact us. It's still very human-centric, but ya know, not so much a beauty thing as one might think at first.
Do butterflies infest homes and destroy property?
I feel like it's less what they look like, and more how they impact us. It's still very human-centric, but ya know, not so much a beauty thing as one might think at first.
Roaches infest your home and spread diseases. Butterflies live outside and spread pollen.
I hate pollen
Dlaczego wszyscy nienawidzą pyłki, pytam się do kurwy nędzy?
You hate pollen from plants that evolved to spread it without the help of butterflies and other insects. These plants' pollen doesn't float around causing allergies.
More like you are ingesting their house
There are a lot of things that we as an animal like or don't like due to evolutionary benefits.
For example we don't like the smell of excrement because those that didn't, stayed further away from it and caught less diseases.
Another good example is snake and spider phobias, those innately scared of venomous creatures survived more often than those that enjoyed their company.
I'm 100% that roaches (and relatives) fall into this category as well. We find them slightly disgusting because those that did, killed them and lived with less diseases than those that thought that they were cute.
Butterflies on the other hand posed no threat to us and remind us of flowers that were evolutionarily important to us (interest in agriculture).
Killing cockroaches is self defence. Killing butterflies is murder.
I avoid killing insects and other small bugs but you're right, I only kill the ones that carry diseases like cockroaches and mosquitoes.
I only do if they are inside. If they are outside they are just part of the food chain.
Butterflies on the other hand posed no threat to us and remind us of flowers that were evolutionarily important to us (interest in agriculture).
Butterflies are more associated with death, than pretty things in the east.
Idk man, all them spider bros prove this wrong.
Sure ascetics are nice but it’s all about utility at the end of the day
I mean sure ascetics are nice, but with the whole straight-edge thing, they're just not that fun to hang out with.
just because somethings take precidence over others sometimes doesnt prove this wrong. there is some form of aesthetic reasonings behind some moral choices made by human beings.
utility can overcome aesthetics handedly in many cases though.
I try to not kill any without asking my scientist friend if they're invasive.
She said I'm allowed to scrunch all the spotted lantern flies, and I think they're very neat looking?
lanternflies definitely defy this particular philosophical postulate
for those of us who like the way they look anyway
i stomped one nearby my toddler niece once and she looked a little too enthused by that, so I reminded her it's important to be a little sad when a living thing dies, even you killed it to help protect the environment :(
the pests will destroy homes, and spread diseases. butteflys are much more benign.
A lot of butterflies eat shit. Like literally, I'm not just hurling baseless insults.
Cool. I'd rather they do that over eating and contaminating my pantry.
Recently, my sister wanted to kill a caterpillar and I said that when she sees a butterfly, she looks in awe, but when she sees a caterpillar, she wants to kill it, and that it explains a lot about our society. It was enough to save the poor hungry caterpillar
By the way, I don't kill cockroaches, I just shoo them away. They're nice and usually don't come back
I will 100% toss the green ones to the neighbour's chickens. They fuck up my cabbages leaving just the veins and little poop dots then fly away as detestable white moths to fuck up everyone else's shit. Sometimes I borrow a couple chickens and just let them go find all the yummy buggies themselves. They are so silly and make a fun show out of decimating my enemies.
Don't the borrowed chickens eat your plants as well? Along with everything in their path, and even you, if they were big enough?
If mine are any indication, they’ll go hunting for bugs before they start scratching at stuff or eating plants. Even when I give mine pulled weeds the first thing they do is look for bugs on them. Those are the real prize.
They have an amazing eye for slight movement, and are quite good little hunters (they really like catching mice as well). If you don't give them time to destroy everything, and keep your eyes on them.
As a bonus they poop while they eradicate, and they do some mild scratching of the surface which is good for the soil.
I don't leave them unattended. I let them do whatever they want with anything already destroyed, and they seem to have fun if I chase them around to distract them from other stuff seeing as they come to poke me then run away when I stop following them.
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Yeah fuck native fauna! Gotta protect our imported flora and don’t even think of using a greenhouse to keep the insects out.
I've been told they are an invasive species but I'm no bug researcher.
I think you can find out what a bug researcher is called if you ask an etymologist
Cockroaches tend to be food pests, butterflies are often pollinators. They're not on the same level.
... From the human perspective.
Remjnds me of...
Dennis Leary: My fluffy little dog.. He's so cute- There's the problem. We only want to save the cute animals, don't we? Yeah. Why don't we just have animal auditions. Line 'em up one by one and interview them individually.
Dennis: What are you?
Otter: I'm an otter.
Dennis: And what do you do?
Otter: I swim around on my back and do cute little human things with my hands.
Dennis: You're free to go. And what are you?
Cow: I'm a cow.
Denis: Get in the fucking truck, ok pal!
Cow: But I'm an animal.
Dennis: You're a baseball glove! Get on that truck!
Cow: I'm an animal, I have rights!
Dennis: (pointing at leather jacket) Yeah, here's yer fucking cousin, get on the fucking truck, pal!
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This is so true.
Animals need to be treated equally. If you wouldn't eat your dog or your cat then why would you eat a cow or a chicken? They're just as intelligent. Just as capable of feeling, of loving.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ unironically would eat a dog or cat.
Grew up where, if we wanted meat, grandpa would go in the back yard and grab a duck or hen... Meat was scarce and came directly from the animal.
I agree. But I don’t see dogs or cats as special. Though arguably cats (which I dislike) are smarter than a cow. Whales and dolphins are also pretty smart. And apes of course. Most of the animals being breed for eating are particularly dumb. It makes them easier to manage. But they are still just animals.
Crushing cockroaches is a great way to spread its eggs and have more cockroaches in the future. Spray them with soapy water instead.
This is a myth. Squashing a cockroach won't release the eggs. They'll die with the rest of it. The rumor likely emerges from the fact that seeing one means they've reached a dense enough population that you're going to see lots. However, there are plenty of reasons not to, mostly around the fact that it's largely ineffectual. Better to clean, remove sources of water, block points of ingress, and call an exterminator.
EDIT: typo. Ineffectual
so ... I don't crush either. I'm just not into it and I think they all have the right to have a fair go. I'm pretty sure they have enough to deal with without me fucking up their shit.
One spreads diseases, the other destroys my garden. Both are getting the boot.
Pollinators are beneficial while pests are detrimental. It's not a choice of aesthetics, but of self-interest.
In both instances, you're the moral agent who gets to decide. And it's not our advantage in intelligence or wisdom, it's our advantage in mass.
Morals have power dynamics, CMM.
Call me a hater, but I consider anyone who kills any bug, arachnid, insect, whatever, a hero. Absolutely HATE them all, no matter how vital they are.
Edit:
Hater, not gated
you're a gated
One day you will accidentally step outside this dimension, and find a god, that God will see you the way you see wee critters and act accordingly.
want to be gently pick up by a giant interdimensional paper and cup or want to ve mercilessly squashed?
Squash me harder interdimensional daddy.
It'd be hypocritical for me to say gently picked up given my track record with bugs, but my brain is wired to hate them because of my primal fear of them taking charge.
I wouldn't mind changing that but I don't have the time and money to get over that fear.
time? money?
I'm assuming you already have a cup and paper at home.
time to change? it takes less time to change than to read this.
Go be kind to wee things
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