30,000 is roughly 1/3 of 60,000,000.
VERY roughly. Lol
30,000 is roughly 1/3 of 60,000,000.
VERY roughly. Lol
Each of the bison shapes in the 60mil example are actually clusters of bison so small you can't see them with the naked eye.
Jokes on you, I wear glasses and still can't see them
Jokes on you, I have no eyes and I can't even read what you said.
Joke's on you, my eyes are the only part of me that isn't naked right now.
Each bison image is worth 75 bison according to the middle section.
I think it gets the point across even if it's off by orders of magnitude.
I get that, but I personally think 60,000,000 tiny buffalo would be more impactful. Can someone do a quick edit in Photoshop?
There's not even 60,000,000 pixels in that image.
We just need dithering with different levels of grey representing a different amount of Bison, arranged so that the macro pattern still registers as a Bison; but in fact it would be a mega Bison.
Because they finally caged the velociraptor in the middle image?
Look at the gunbarrel around it. That's the velociraptor equivalent of James Bond. You can't put it in a cage.
Log scale?
I don't think this is to scale.
I agree. Bison are much larger than that.
Settlers killed buffalo to force indigenous people into the reservation system. It was a big part of the genocide here, worth looking into if you get the chance.
This is a buffalo:

They are not the same animal as American bison, which are also not European bison for that matter.
Isn't that a water buffalo? Not the same animal as the American Bison (commonly known as the American Buffalo.) I think once they have a 200 year old city named for them, you just have to accept that that's what they're called.
No but the American Buffalo is also called a buffalo which is also a correct term.
Each buffalo in the first picture represents 242,914 buffalo. Which means the last picture would be about 1/10th of a bison, and the middle one would be just the tip of a horn.
TIL There are 30,000 free roaming bison but there are 500,000 total including privately owned and commercial herds.
300 is a hell of a bottleneck
The decision to stop was required, but a ton of work was done to help the population rebound. What kind of misguided message is this trying to send?
It's trying to tell people who think it's too much work to bother that it's not. I do it all the time, like when I have to wash the dishes and I tell myself "I'll just wash one dish" because I know if I do that I'll be a lot more motivated to continue, but if I keep looking at the whole problem before I start, I'll be too overwhelmed to do anything at all.
Sure, the bison population is 0.05% of what it once was. And now that we're not actively attempting to extinct them, everything is hunky dory and no more work is needed.
I don't know how else to interpret this. It sounds like the Bison Society would rather be a society dedicated to literal anything else. The Kick the Can Down the Road Society, perhaps.
I don't know the history of bison population. From the image, I assume there used to be a ton of bison. But then a science experiment involving velociraptors went awry, and only a small group of bison were left alive. Then those bison made an uprising against the velociraptor-experiments and invaded their area, allowing their population to grow again.
How far off am I?
Also, like, it wasn’t just a “decision to stop” it was the end of a coincidence of factors. The mid century climatic conditions that led to several years of poor grass growth, with the combined hunting efforts of European American settlers on rail roads supported by the army’s policies against the Great Plains Indians, south eastern Indians displaced in to the great planes, and Great Plains Indians intensifying hunting via sophisticated methods they’d developed using horseback and fire arms, all driven by a demand for buffalo hides for use in industrial machinery. The end of the bad climatic conditions and the collapse of the hide trade due to development of other industrial materials is what stoped the over hunting.
With the pressures of hunting decreased and a historic climatic event over, the population was able to rebound somewhat, but, due to the encroachment of farms and ranching never really recover. Also the genetic bottleneck of the population probably hasn’t helped things but that’s not super well studied.
So I'm not bothered by the inconsistent scale... but why is there a dinosaur peeking through the bottom of the 1889 column?!
So thats why charles in rdr2 was so mad about some foreigners killing bisons. Never knew they were endangered (also im not an american)
They weren't naturally, the US state nearly exterminated the species as a tool of genocide against multiple Native American nations.
I'm not American either, but have heard of the near bison extinction. They made literal mountains of nothing but bison skulls.
They skinned them and left their meat and bones to rot all over the prairie.
It's hard to imagine it if you haven't seen the pictures. Even then, it's impossible.







It's crazy to think about. Especially because it's such a cool and unique animal. I'm just happy that bison still exist. I hope their population keeps growing even though they will never be as many as they were.
Science/Biology question for someone. If the Bison that exist today are all sourced from those last 300 Bison, are there genetic bottlenecks/recessive traits and defects that we've just permanently given to the entire Bison species forever and ever?
Yes, for real. It is a shame that the European water buffalo is extinct for thousands of years. But we there are obviously Asian water buffalo in say Italy for mozarella production. It might make for a good proxy. Thankfully we do have some permafrost examples, so cloning might be an option.
Not perfect recovery, but still a powerful reminder that “too late” isn’t always true. Stopping the damage is step one.
THERE! ARE! FOUR! LIGHTS BISONS!!
What is the genetic diversity of the bison? Are they are going to be very inbred soon and die out?
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