I don’t think the problem is with those who protest (more than on certain big days)—there are many and they have my respect. it’s the excuses of those who don’t. So if you think I have a lack of respect for the Americans who protest at the moment, that is not my intention. They are just the minority.

Then it’s the problem of some who do something (or anything—attend on protest) and think it’s enough. Like Europeans who protest on May 1st and think that’s enough. But there are differences between those groups too. But everywhere can do better. But some are further away than others

Deleted my previous comment about 3 min after posting, wrote too quickly and missed point. Take 2.

Mate, this doesn’t show just Western Europe + Serbia. Albania is there too. I’m sorry that this memetic content does not satisfy certain implicit criteria you seem to have about generalising to the certain regions of Europe—ie those which have been protesting more than the last few weeks. And given all that, I have no idea what your point is. Protests that have had significant impact on people’s daily lives through protesting are not just during the Arabic spring but there are modern examples in Europe. If you agree with that, then what’s the discussion about?

I said other countries above, but obviously there are different levels. Western Europe isn’t at that stage yet (but you could argue the current situation in Europe doesn’t warrant such extreme protests yet and they would if it was warranted). But some of the protests in, for example, Georgia (the country) over the last few years, are probably on that level and with good reason. And they should be respected—which you are not doing with those types of comments

Do you think other countries subsidise protesting? Yes your healthcare makes you all less free. Isn’t that worth protesting more? While I may be committing a false dichotomy it sounds like the choice is effective (economic) slavery or protesting.

I was thinking smallest theoretical unit. I knew I had made a mistake and couldn’t think of the correct term. And I wondered if anyone was going to correct me. I’m happy you did.

Impressive since most thought a Scaramuchi was a fundamental unit

Is it that much of a leap to think they texted either in a traffic jam or even when they arrived at work after hearing this on the radio?

I’m all for being sceptical, but T9 texting could be pretty quick.

I don’t buy that completely. I had a to travel to a very liberal part of the US during trump 1… I would say the liberal patriotism (what some have better called American exceptionalism) was still thriving. While I fully understand people’s belief have gone down hill over the last few years (like your source says), I think it was more sudden than that. Also I’m not sure it won’t bounce back and revert to mean under a different government.

I said people were triggered cause it was on -3 or -5 or when I put my phone down yesterday.

Thanks. But they enshitified their main product enough that an opt out is worse than going to up and coming European alternatives. The future lies there for me.

Wish they’d just scrap it. Makes me want to migrate to qwant (despite disliking their lack of bang syntax). Or more accurately, I’m trying to migrate to qwant because of it, but I’ve still not converted completely.

I think it was letterman that started his show with “from New York, the greatest city in the world” that they unreflectively cheered for years … which I think is an example of how brainwashed even the more liberal Americans have been over the last 50 years. Their entire culture has been leading to this point.

They were never the good guys.

One of the first things I learned about climate change in the 90s was the US didn’t ratify Kyoto—and Bush withdrew in 01. Never the good guys. We can go back further (Allende, Nicaragua—not the good guys there either).

But still, even many liberal leaning people, think they are the greatest. And they laughably think this is a blip.

Edit: this post definitely triggered some Americans.

Penguin. No reason required.