When are these images taken? Currently the White House and National Mall look like a trailer park aftter a tornado rampaged through it.
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The joke/stereotype answer is that: Americans don't have time for that, they need to hustle else they get fired from their fourth job.
I think one part of why the general strike has been postponed is that USA is more like 50 different countries. And that even if it's bad now, and getting worse by the day, the pain threshold is still not being reached for enough people.
And I am sure there's much better answers than mine.
The pain threshold is not definitely not high enough to get the average American to risk everything.
I also think most people are waiting for the election to solve problems. Which is stupid, I know, but like I said in my post having a bunch of people breaking into stores and destroying property right now will just boost Trump. Right now he’s fucking floundering and extremely unpopular.
If we’re gonna have mass protests it needs to be after the election when he tries to deny results.
Literally every time this is brought up one of the top answers is 'its not a good time to act'. When will it be a good time to act?
When he tries to deny or overturn the results of elections from 50 separate states (again) because he’s a whiny crybaby bitch and most Americans are sick of his shit?
Did you not read the first part of my comment when I said the pain threshold isn’t high enough?
Did you forget my other comment (that you bookmarked) where I said people ARE acting every day to resist ICE?
Then you all need to reevaluate what is an acceptable pain threshold.
You and I don’t get to decide that for other individuals or the collective.
Agreed. But I can judge them for it.
Believe me I do too. I’ve said for a while it’s going to take a lot of pain to snap the average American out of acceptance. Right now things are just uncomfortable for most. I don’t know what the threshold is but I suspect we’ll hit it before 2028.
Fair enough. But I hope you can see why as outsiders thats a frustrating position. Because your internal shitshow is hurting us. Im Canadian and we are getting pretty tired of the econonic warfare and uncertainty. Hell you guys are actively trying to influence our politics, especially in Alberta. Trying to drive a wedge in our society.
We do feel for you guys, believe it or not. But we're so tired of the bullshit.
Hell you guys are actively trying to influence our politics
No, there is no “you guys”. There are very specific people behind this, many of which aren’t even in the government. Some of whom are Canadian.
we're so tired of the bullshit.
What do you think the people in the US are feeling? Such an obtuse fucking statement.
So Im not supposed to be upset at what the US is doing to my country? To my family's fnancial stability? Piss off, bud.
If you bothered to read the comment you responded to, the other commentor pointed out that some of the people doing this are your own fucking countrymen.
Do we get to blame Canada for their hand in this? Or are we smart enough to see that the rich are making us fight amongst ourselves because it's easier for people like you to rail against the bad outsider than to realize that this is being driven by a multinational group of the ultra wealthy bent on enacting techno-feudalism via attacks on the elections of any country needed?
I’m at a point where I cheer on any country inflicting pain on the US. We deserve it and maybe it’ll force change.
No you don't. We, individually, don't have control of the collective. You might as well judge us for what our aristocrats are doing. Or what the wind is doing.
Judge us now, and you leave your own people to be judged when they capitulate to far-right movements supported and bankrolled by aristocracy. We're already seeing signs of this now. Elon Musk and associates can afford to buy a lot of elections. And they intend to do so.
All of our societies been softened up by neoliberalism. We all thought we could regulate the capitalist class, and how they intend to drive humanity to extinction. It's our last chance to assure they are reduced out of existence, or their war boys and propaganda will come back twice as strong.
I hope we can navigate our way out of this, but individuals are infinitesimal compared to the masses. Humanity might just be too stupid to survive.
PlaidBaron is right though, why all the downvotes?
You think you'll all rise up after an event that already happened once, that is delusional IMO.
I don't have a perfect answer to your mess, but I don't think waiting is the answer.
Good luck, you need it.
We are acting. It's just diffuse and not loud. And, granted, it may not be enough.
For now the focus is on the election, to get the opposition party in power, to reform the opposition party away from neoliberalism, to plan to, for the next two years hold accountable everyone in the political class and plutocratic class who engaged in corruption and self dealing.
The fight doesn't end there. We still need to rebalance the federal powers. We still need to make anew the regulatory bodies, to reforge international relations and rethink our role in the world, to create social safety nets, to reconsider our national security model... the list is long, and the problems that need addressing have been around since before Trump, just as the problems that beleaguere Europe have been festering for a while.
The question is if we can confront the disproportionate power of the patrician class and business interests though the political system. The preponderance of data centers disrupting neighborhoods, and of officials who have signed NDAs shows us the corruption is entrenched even at the local level.
The American people need to organize twelve million strong under a common manifesto. If we can do thatn there are several options open to us, violent or otherwise (though we are erring towards non-violent) that will disrupt industry and overwhelm responders, and leverage the American economy against moneyed interests. And we'll need to have a clear set of demands when we do it.
As someone who isn't even rallying calls to action, but simply suggesting that people exercise the second amendment and get involved in their community, and having those ideas rejected?
Literal mad max scenario.
Me? I never said anything about the second ammendment. I know you Americans are gun happy but thats not what I said.
We've just learned from the Civil Rights movement....
Black men and women tried exercising their First Amendment rights, but nobody listened until they exercised their Second Amendment rights.
You were asking when the time for action would be.
I'm telling you americans will never act.
Ah got it. Sorry. There are many angry Americans on this thread who are not happy with my opinions. Which is fine. They have that right. But they seem to think they can just make any dissenters shut up with the I dont like this button and liberal use of ad hominem attacks.
Godspeed my friend.
If it's that much of a 50 different countries, why one of those "countries" didn't organize the "country"-wide strike even once?
they need to hustle else they get fired from their fourth job.
The problem is; wait another year and it'll be, "get fired from their fifth job." Alas; getting to that point, enough times, is what it takes. Once there is no time left, and no money left, and no food left, and the littles are too listless even to cry.
Get to that point a few times (eg: 1789, 1848, 1968), and you start choosing to stand in the tear gas early.
The thing about America is, for every person who cares, there are 3 idiots with guns who would love to be the next Kyle Rittenhouse. They aren't even all republikkkans. Just boot lickers with a murder fantasy
Americans are the biggest bunch of fucking cowards.
I'll admit it, I'm fuckin afraid of my neighbors in a red state. I'm afraid of my own fuckin parents. They are violent, brainwashed sociopaths with guns. Without a movement to hide in just gonna wind up dead in the street. Call me a coward, but it's a fine line between cowardice and stupidity. If I wasn't married, I'm certain I would have thrown my life away on it already.
At least one of those shots is behind a permanent spiked perimeter fence that you get arrested or shot for crossing. Also Trump keeps moving the White House temporary perimeter fence back further from the White House. I need to check if the Capitol Building is currently fenced off
It's also not a current picture since you know, a 3rd of the white house isn't rubble
Interesting map:

All quiet on the eastern front...
Last time you could feasibly organise a protest in that suspiciously white area was 2019. The guy who did it was tortured to death in prison. In 2022 I was exiting the metro station about a kilometer away from a known protest area in Moscow, got detained by police, and beaten so hard I couldn't walk for a week, just because I attended said protests in 2019, and the camera network remembered my face.
That might also be the reason for OP picture I assume
Looks like you don't know where Poland, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia and Romania among other countries are.
Don't be coy, we all know what it's in reference to. Especially given that some countries on the list actually have pretty lively political activity
No idea what you're talking about. I showed map with bunch of EU countries unaffected by current unrest and you started talking about Russia. You're either not great at geography or you don't understand people in Europe have different priorities than people in Russia.
I mean, Russia sure, people don't want to end up in Siberia. But I wonder why Poland, Austria and friends are so empty. Surely Austrian police isn't worse than fucking Spanish? Also, there is a suspiciously England-shaped hole.
Two options:
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things are so good there they don't see the need to protest
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things were so bad for so long that current crisis didn't make much impact yet
But seriously, I think it's a mix of those two. Some things are terrible but were bad for so long people got used to it and lost hope it will get better (like healthcare and corruption in Poland). Other things actually got a lot better over the last couple of decades (like salaries in Poland).
The Brits won't do shit against their masters. They are only good at punching down.
Hey those aren't current pictures of the white house now are they?
One is from Washington DC, the other yes it is from White House.
The White House doesn't look like that anymore. It is a construction site. That's what you get when you elect a real estate manager twice.
No way our white house currently looks that nice. 1/3 of it is a deconstruction pit, the roses are a concrete slab, and did they ever actually fix the grass after turning the front lawn into a mud pit for trash coin?
This definitely is a shit post.
Well we had No Kings protests. Police have shot and killed our citizens in the process of that. In my area, during a protest, police grabbed, dragged, and shot a protestor point blank in the eye with a less than lethal gun (he's blind now)
Yeah, and the freedom people who once frothed at the mouth about wanting to fight tyrants are now probably the ones shooting protestors happily now.
All for the tribe.
Yeah, that's the thing about a protest, it doesn't help unless you have a structure to harness this energy. When police started shooting at protesters in Ukraine in 2014, several political and activist organisations banded together with people, and together they used this fear and anger to resist and ultimately win.
Well political activist organizations were already banded together going to No Kings protests when those citizens were shot, for some reason we're not winning yet
I am very plugged in on the American politics, and yet I have no idea which ones you can mean. This means that either those organisations are small enough so they don't even break the local social media barrier, or they were so quiet after that, they didn't even try to do anything on any public level.
Two people were executed on the streets by the regime, and the reaction was less severe than when a shitty musician was shitty.
its likely its too small to even get bigger in the news, also because conservatives controls most of the MSM as well, it will hit the news, its all "look what trump did that make him look stupid" gaffe everyday.
i noticed after the protests, people just went home like no news after that, they treat it like they were working a shift a store, 8hrs here, 8 hrs there and then done. also these are Planned protests, so you get what you "paid for" and likely kept on a tight leash by the DNC and MSMs to not escalate further. it allows them to have release valve when something schumer-hakeems and congrees does something terrible voting with the GOP.
exactly. These peaceful protests rarely ever substantiate substantial changes. The literal largest per capita protest in american history didnt do shit.
What does this tell the americans?
That a protest should be a tactic, an action towards an immediate goal, and not a goal within itself.
Don’t forget number three!!! Maybe you’re not as “plugged in” as you thought
That's exactly what the Serbian protestors were forced to do as well - and unlike Ukraine, they didn't have lots of CIA backing to help them.
We had a similar per capita rate of participation in No Kings as France has had in its recent demonstrations. But the US has a much lower population density over a much larger land area, so the protests appeared smaller despite having millions more people in the streets.
I would argue that No Kings protest will never achieve the goals french protesters are because No Kings refuses to use a wider diversity of tactics. You can’t force someone to the negotiating table without force. Sit ins, speeches and tweets won’t make the Republican party any less fascist.
...ok.... and did this 'protest' substantiate substantial changes? ....WAYMENT! 😂
the point is there is no escalation from us protestors when that happened, Occupy wallstreet pretty much showed oligarchs have nothing to be worried about, they can shovel culture war into social media its enough to distract people.
"guys, we went on a permitted march in favor of slightly less shitty authoritarian neoliberals, what more do you want?"
Nobody was shot and killed for No Kings. What the people were shot and killed by ICE for was direct action of rapid response against ICE.
Media in US is run by trump's friends and unfortunately foreign news is relying on them to report.
March's NoKings was the biggest protest in US history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_protests_and_demonstrations_in_the_United_States_by_size#List
And it had almost no coverage internally or in foreign media.
....and it acheived fucking nothing haha
Once again proving that non-violent resistance aint shit. The Algerians, Cubans , Koreans , Burkinabe, and Vietnamese send their regards
The Cubans are escaping to Florida instead of revolting, Korea has had multiple visibly corrupt presidents and I still haven't heard of violent protests... Not sure those are the best examples.
....Ah Yup yup yup every excuse in the book.
Instead of talking about Cubans from 1959 ....you talk about Cubans today. Bro IDGAF abou Cubans today. Bro Cuba is no longer a socialist state. Have you seen the rrforms? Have you seen the oil embargos effects on Cuba since 2 years ago up until today? Clearly you havent so why am I even asking?
Instead of talking about Koreans from 1910-53 .....you talk about SOUTH KOREA TODAY ....when Im talking ALL of the Korean Penninsula from decades ago.
BUT Yup yup yup! Keep up the excuses . Never use historicals examples to give you directions as to what the americams should do today YUP YUP YUP.
Bro IDGAF abou Cubans today.
Well that's a bit racist, isn't it
Bro Cuba is no longer a socialist state. Have you seen the rrforms? Have you seen the oil embargos effects on Cuba since 2 years ago up until today? Clearly you havent so why am I even asking?
Oh, the oil embargos of the last 2 years are the reason Cubans have been fleeing Cuba for decades, got it. Not fleeing the dictatorship (instead of revolting against it).
Instead of talking about Koreans from 1910-53 …you talk about SOUTH KOREA TODAY …when Im talking ALL of the Korean Penninsula from decades ago.
Did they revolt against the Japanese, or did Japan lose the war? I was under the impression they only managed to kick the oppressors out because the oppressors got two nukes dropped on them. By the Americans ironically enough.
ok but why have Cubans been fleeing for decades? You dont think sanctions exist?
Also what 'dictatorship' ? The 'dictatorship' that the majority of Cubans came out in solidarity with during the COVID-19 lockdowns? Seems like an odd 'dictatorship' if the majority of Cubans are happily accepting ALL THOSE sanctions just to shout out their support for it in the middle of a pandemic 🤷🏿♂️
As if these regimes were not totalitarian from beginning and did not serve imperialist interests of soviet pseudosocialism. Protecting the spirit of revolution to eventually become corpocracy that is even stronger capitalist than the capitalist-democratic counterparts.
.... Provide me with citable evidence that socialist Cuba or North Korea served the Soviets' 'imperial interests'
Im STILL waiting.... You can just DM if youre not an adult enough to publicly reply lol
Im STILL waiting.... What's wrong? You were talking out your ass and now you cant back it up with ANY evidence?! 🤭
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