Birds also only eat spiders they see. Not sure how that’s any different
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Same, I had two Joros this year. Their webs are LITERALLY gold, it's so cool. They really just chill. Imagine my disappointment when both disappeared before the New Year and I learned their lifespans. :(
Not native here, either, but supposedly not a real threat to anything. They're everywhere here now. Coolest thing I learned is that their babies can "balloon" and fly for up to hundreds of miles on wind currents. And the little tiny baby spider in the web isn't a baby, it's the little bitch-ass male. The size difference is insaaaane.
The Joros are very courteous as well.
When they invaded Georgia they covered hiking paths and walkways. If I ever accidentally disturbed a web, they'd move the web up 3-6ft and hang a warning leaf from a 3ft long string coming off of their web.
Its like they knew they were invasive and wanted to come in peace.
We have a few mildly dangerous ones and I have kids.
Our rule is if the spider stays in his world we leave it alone, if it's in ours, they may be out of luck. The doorway is a neutral zone along with usually the entryway and questionably the kitchen.
I don't kill spiders. They are my unpaid exterminators.
That's why I only kill the roaches that venture into my house, if I see a roach in the street I leave it alone to thrive that way all future offspring will be selected for street only living.
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Good, we should make them even more reclusive and smarter. Honestly, an army of highly intelligent bug killers specialized in keeping out of my sight hiding in the interstices of my house sounds like an awesome idea
In our house the rule is spiders can stay if they're out the way (up high, etc). When they get too close for comfort for my wife's tolerance limits, I pick them up and put them outside. Spiders are friends.
Huh, coincidentally,I just finished reading Children of Time
Why kill spiders? Oh, maybe it's Australia.
I'm asking myself whether the humans in Australia became extra dangerous in order to acclimate 🤔
Nah, still doesn't make sense. They kill the mozzies and the blowies for us.
Leave the big ones alone in Australia. They're harmless. The ones that need killings are tiny and super venomous.
Any flies that fly into my house are given a chance to leave. If I can herd them out the window, they get to live and make lots of new baby flies.
On the other hand, their chances of getting a close up view of the fly swatter increase exponentially with every minute they spend refusing to leave and ignoring the fact that I'm literally showing them the exit.
I once tried making a similar argument to a game warden about only hunting deer during the day. They were not appreciative of the take.
This was after I hit a deer with my car while driving home from Thanksgiving, it was not a good time.
I have the same thoughts about hitting squirrels with my car.
Not that I do it on purpose or feel good about It, but I tell myself that at least the survivors will pass on their survivor traits to the next generation.
You'd think we'd have accidentally bred smarter deer by now
Deer kill more americans than any other animal. If anything they're becoming more top heavy and more lethal to make drivers hesitate before hitting them. Eventually evolution will make them explode and send a cloud of shrapnel out when struck by a car.
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I think we have. In my area many deer during hunting season spend the time within city limits where it's illegal to fire guns. I am pretty sure they've figured it out.
If I never know that the spider is there then we shall both live a peaceful life.
The reclusiveness selection argument makes sense, but why intelligence? Brains are crazy metabolically expensive, and I can't see why a smart reclusive spider would survive humans any better than a merely reclusive one.
this isnt true tho. we kill loads of them without seeing them.
i like the idea tho
This is why you shouldn't kill rattlesnakes. If we kill the rattlesnakes that make themselves known, over time they adapt to not rattle before striking.
My house spiders are cool. They eat the flies etc and I fish them out of the way before I have a shower. The only disagreement we have is over their little lair in the kitchen. There's a tiny hole in the skirting board in one corner, and cobwebs gather there. Now and then I brush away the webs and plaster over the hole. A week later the hole is back and the webs too.
Am I missing something here? Why is everyone talking about spiders

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either way it's a showerthought about humans being the natural selection for spiders, killing only the ones that come out, effectively selecting them for higher reclusion and intelligence (sorry, on phone so writing the exact text is a hassle)
As long as the spiders don't break our agreement they can stay. They eat the bugs and pests, and they can live in the corners of my house. As soon as they come to the floor they're dead.
I recognised this problem years ago and decided to also let them eat bugs in plain sight. Unfortunately my house isn't big enough to counter evolution on my own, but I feel there is more people out there who also stopped killing spiders because of this.
I catch them in a glass and cover the top with a piece of cardboard then dump them outside. Spiders eat bugs. Go be free little guy!
Whenever I see a spider in the house, I don't kill it. I do however, pick up my cat and say, "look dude, move out along before she figures out how to get to you. She will murder your ass."
The spider, always, leaves.
And cockroaches, too. They'll haul ass and scurry away every time. They know.
I think this every time I kill a mosquito or fruit fly but they don't seem to be getting any faster, smarter, or quieter. Where's Darwin when you need him to answer some questions?
There's just so many that the relative few getting killed by swatting aren't having an impact on their genetics.
I try to not kill them when i clean up excessive webs. Hope they appreciate the clean up and dont resent me for it...
I did the same for a while.
But then I recently found out a spider (which was getting pretty big) ignoring bloodless mosquitoes and letting them fill up on me before eating them. I cleaned it up.
It depends also on the size. Not the same a cute jumper on the window or..
Got bit on my left leg last week by a brown recluse I didn't see. Garage is probably full of them
I always knew I was right to scoop them up and put them outside. My wife just murders them outright.

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