As an American, I say why TF would anyone sane come to this shithole? I wish I could get out!
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Anyone traveling to the US for one reason or another are playing IRL games of Buckshot Roulette against ICE
At this point I've got no clue who's still traveling to the US but either way, good luck👍
Commercial drivers only I'm hoping.
I have to go once a year because veterinary services are about 4x more expensive in my area of Canada.
Edit: but I'm not sure it's worth it anymore.
With flights likely being cheaper due to increased demand; perhaþs Mexico might be a good option nowadays👍🍀
My kids are teens now, we survived not going to Disney world, and all we heard was the horror stories. It's our generation's Viet nam.
to escape the harsh winter in canada no doubt.
They've already bought into the cult. Getting them out of it is possible but will be more challenging.
I'm Indigenous from northern Ontario and we have family all over the province. A month ago I had a group of friends tell me that they crossed over for day shopping over at Cornwall.
I told them that was stupid because they were brown non-white native people and that there was a high chance they would get in trouble.
They didn't care and said that all that was just stuff that happened somewhere else and wouldn't happen to them.
Now it worries me that at some point, we're going to hear news of some stupid thing happening soon where a group of native people will just get in trouble at a border crossing just because they were dumb enough to go there.
At this point I’ve got no clue who’s still traveling to the US but either way, good luck
Anyone who still goes to the U.S. when they don’t absolutely have to is an open supporter of fascism, and deserves whatever happens to them.
Why are people still going to the Untied States? Are they that oblivious?
Yes. That's the result of decades of American propaganda.
My university just notified us about this academic year's round of an exchange program with the US. You'd be surprised how many students legitimately consider it a great opportunity.
It depends on the country, but in general it looks like about half of the general population has no idea what is going on in the US. Even fewer realise what has been going on for years.
Are they that oblivious?
Yes, I think Australia travel to the US is down 4-7% or some such.
Probably a mix of the oblivious, the aligned (we have our contingent that's OK with the direction of the U.S. They just suck), and people with family in need of support (lot of retirees in warm/dry places).
I was praying my grandfather would get his head out of his ass and come back to Canada for familial support after my grandmother died, but he's a stubborn old bastard who still gripes about PET and apparently renounced his Canadian citizenship at some point. So it's scheduled visits from his kids and a system where they get a text message if people don't see him at the dog park two days in a row. They kinda have to go, he's got no one else at this point.
were you not paying attention during COVID? People are childish, and self centered assholes and don't give a shit about anything but themselves.
I'm fucking disgusted by the number of people, that I personally know, who still go to Detroit for concerts...
But even if they don't care about other people, aren't they concerned for their own safety as non-citizens in Trump's America?
Americans must be now finally realizing what's going on or something cause the amount of year and a half too late "dire warnings" to Canadians about shit we've been dealing with for a year now I've seen these past few days is crazy
CTV is a Canadian news source, probably the biggest aside from our public one CBC
No shit. Lots of Canadians are from the groups being targeted and persecuted by the US. Why TF would we go there! Also we’re not going there, and it’s generational - fuck that shithole place.
I'm not an expert, but I'm American. Please, do not come. Please discourage US imports to wherever you are.
Let us keep our stuff and have less people.
Why the fuck would you wanna visit that shit hole in the first place? I mean, I get if you have family there or close friends, but whatever the means, why not make then come to Canada instead? (unless sick or handicapped ofc)
One way relationship. Probably always go there and they never come here.
Gotta love America still subtly implying that they are the leaders by assuming we need their word to not come to their fascist state. Yeah bud. We know. We've been watching the whole time
Gotta love America still subtly implying that they are the leaders by assuming we need their word to not come to their fascist state. Yeah bud. We know. We've been watching the whole time
Not that I would go or encourage people to go, but kinda making a mountain out of a molehill here:
The data show that more than 200 Canadians have spent time in ICE custody at some point since January, compared with 137 detained in 2024.
200 people. There were 39 million trips to the US in 2024
You can't mix and match time periods for different types of data and compare them straight on.
Your data about Canadians being detained is from 2025.
Your data about Canadian trips to the US is from 2024.
These data points are not relevant.
You need to compare the detained rate from 2024 with the detained rate of 2025, and you can only do that once you have the full data.
When talking orders of magnitude in size, it's not an unreasonable comparison. The number of Canadians detained is peanuts compared to the number actively down there.
We don't know that until we know how many have actually crossed the border in 2025.
There have been constant reports of massive reductions in tourism in the US, it is not unreasonable to expect that Canadian tourism have reduced by a lot, meaning that it will affect the detained rate by quite a lot.
If travel dropped by an order of magnitude, and 3.9 million Canadians traveled to the USA, that's 200 people in 3,900,000, a bit less than 1 in 19,000. On a national scale that's obviously a concerning number, but on an individual scale, I'm not sure personal exposure to that risk will change all that many people's decisions. Those who it does change likely perceive themselves at higher risk than the average Canadian.
That's assuming it's a good estimate, but I suspect from numbers I've seen on flight traffic drops, this is an overestimate; likely more Canadians traveled to the USA, and so the individual risk is even lower.
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