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[–] 3 points 11 months ago

They should boycott the US along with everyone else

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Not that I would go or encourage people to go, but kinda making a mountain out of a molehill here:

    The data show that more than 200 Canadians have spent time in ICE custody at some point since January, compared with 137 detained in 2024.

    200 people. There were 39 million trips to the US in 2024

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You can't mix and match time periods for different types of data and compare them straight on.

    Your data about Canadians being detained is from 2025.

    Your data about Canadian trips to the US is from 2024.

    These data points are not relevant.

    You need to compare the detained rate from 2024 with the detained rate of 2025, and you can only do that once you have the full data.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    When talking orders of magnitude in size, it's not an unreasonable comparison. The number of Canadians detained is peanuts compared to the number actively down there.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    We don't know that until we know how many have actually crossed the border in 2025.

    There have been constant reports of massive reductions in tourism in the US, it is not unreasonable to expect that Canadian tourism have reduced by a lot, meaning that it will affect the detained rate by quite a lot.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    If travel dropped by an order of magnitude, and 3.9 million Canadians traveled to the USA, that's 200 people in 3,900,000, a bit less than 1 in 19,000. On a national scale that's obviously a concerning number, but on an individual scale, I'm not sure personal exposure to that risk will change all that many people's decisions. Those who it does change likely perceive themselves at higher risk than the average Canadian.

    That's assuming it's a good estimate, but I suspect from numbers I've seen on flight traffic drops, this is an overestimate; likely more Canadians traveled to the USA, and so the individual risk is even lower.

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    [–] 49 points 11 months ago (16 children)

    As an American, I say why TF would anyone sane come to this shithole? I wish I could get out!

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    There are more than enough people who just don't give a fuck or don't know what's happening. I talked to a friend last week about the social media stuff and she just shrugged and told me she has nothing to hide.

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  • [–] [S] 19 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    nothing to hide

    for now

    who can say what mundane topic could be necessary to hide in the future

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Years after you've submitted the data.

    The worst thing is, we're in Germany. Stasi wasn't that long ago.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Oh boy that adds another level of irony for sure.

    "and once again"

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Stasi was the Ministerium für Staatssicherheit of the GDR. It kept tabs on everyone and everything, decided if you were a citizen good enough to be allowed to go to college, decided if you were allowed to be in certain positions, spied on you with technology, friends, neighbors. They captured citizens they thought were a danger for their government, they killed people they deemed spies, they let people vanish over night.

    This ended 1990 when the Berlin wall fell. It's been some time, but it's something you learn in school over here. And I would expect people to see parallels. But no, some have nothing to hide.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    That's very interesting and something I will have to do further reading on. Our closest parallel would probably be indigenous reserves and residential schools (read: assimilation schools). I was taught it but I think that may have just been partially where I grew up and a specific teacher that really put care into the subject. Anyone older or who grew up in other parts of the country (Alberta) even today probably don't learn anything about our horrid past (and present, reconciliation is a goal, not reality).

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    If she's ever posted anything that can be interpreted as anti-trump, anti-republican, pro-democrat, pro-lgbt, or just anything the regime doesn't like, she has something to hide

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Hahaha won’t gaf when US marines are taking over Canadian resources and governments, turning Canada into a territory. And hellfiring our cities. Maybe then they will notice?

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  • [–] [S] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    We have our share of insane individuals too sadly.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    Did I miss where your nut jobs proudly went all gestapo on your own citizens? I mean I remember the truckers shutting things down, and Ford... well what more need be said? But you're still noticably better off from what I can tell.

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 11 months ago

    But you're still noticably better off from what I can tell.

    I believe we are but we mustn't be so foolish as to think we couldn't slip further. I don't think we will, partially because of the states' example, but I'm still cautious.

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  • [–] 20 points 11 months ago (14 children)

    Anyone traveling to the US for one reason or another are playing IRL games of Buckshot Roulette against ICE

    At this point I've got no clue who's still traveling to the US but either way, good luck👍

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    I have to go once a year because veterinary services are about 4x more expensive in my area of Canada.

    Edit: but I'm not sure it's worth it anymore.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I'm Indigenous from northern Ontario and we have family all over the province. A month ago I had a group of friends tell me that they crossed over for day shopping over at Cornwall.

    I told them that was stupid because they were brown non-white native people and that there was a high chance they would get in trouble.

    They didn't care and said that all that was just stuff that happened somewhere else and wouldn't happen to them.

    Now it worries me that at some point, we're going to hear news of some stupid thing happening soon where a group of native people will just get in trouble at a border crossing just because they were dumb enough to go there.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago*

    Wasn't there already stories about natives in America being swept up by ICE. I mean they don't care your not the white colour. And even being white doesn't mean you won't get grabbed by ICE.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    At this point I’ve got no clue who’s still traveling to the US but either way, good luck

    Anyone who still goes to the U.S. when they don’t absolutely have to is an open supporter of fascism, and deserves whatever happens to them.

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago (9 children)

    Why are people still going to the Untied States? Are they that oblivious?

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    Yes. That's the result of decades of American propaganda.

    My university just notified us about this academic year's round of an exchange program with the US. You'd be surprised how many students legitimately consider it a great opportunity.

    It depends on the country, but in general it looks like about half of the general population has no idea what is going on in the US. Even fewer realise what has been going on for years.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Probably a mix of the oblivious, the aligned (we have our contingent that's OK with the direction of the U.S. They just suck), and people with family in need of support (lot of retirees in warm/dry places).

    I was praying my grandfather would get his head out of his ass and come back to Canada for familial support after my grandmother died, but he's a stubborn old bastard who still gripes about PET and apparently renounced his Canadian citizenship at some point. So it's scheduled visits from his kids and a system where they get a text message if people don't see him at the dog park two days in a row. They kinda have to go, he's got no one else at this point.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    were you not paying attention during COVID? People are childish, and self centered assholes and don't give a shit about anything but themselves.

    I'm fucking disgusted by the number of people, that I personally know, who still go to Detroit for concerts...

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    But even if they don't care about other people, aren't they concerned for their own safety as non-citizens in Trump's America?

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Americans must be now finally realizing what's going on or something cause the amount of year and a half too late "dire warnings" to Canadians about shit we've been dealing with for a year now I've seen these past few days is crazy

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    CTV is a Canadian news source, probably the biggest aside from our public one CBC

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago

    No shit. Lots of Canadians are from the groups being targeted and persecuted by the US. Why TF would we go there! Also we’re not going there, and it’s generational - fuck that shithole place.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago

    I'm not an expert, but I'm American. Please, do not come. Please discourage US imports to wherever you are.

    Let us keep our stuff and have less people.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Why the fuck would you wanna visit that shit hole in the first place? I mean, I get if you have family there or close friends, but whatever the means, why not make then come to Canada instead? (unless sick or handicapped ofc)

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I feel bad for people who have to visit there for work.

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Gotta love America still subtly implying that they are the leaders by assuming we need their word to not come to their fascist state. Yeah bud. We know. We've been watching the whole time

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 11 months ago* (1 child)