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[–] [S] 174 points 10 months ago* (26 children)

At a Indian restaurant, the waiter said, "We have regular and spicy... And Indian spicy." Then he goes, "I usually don't offer Indian spicy to everybody". I'm brown, and I was given special treatment. But honestly I think I broke his heart when I asked for regular because he thought I could hang.

Sorry man! 😭

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  • [–] 128 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    One of my proudest moments as a white dude who likes spicy stuff was when a buddy and I were hanging out with some local guys while on a trip to Mexico. I was just chowing down on some super hot salsa and one of the Mexican guys gets real excited and starts calling me "the blond Mexican". I'm sure my wife is tired of that story, but I will continue to tell it to her for the rest of my days.

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  • [–] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Woah. If there's one thing that excites me more than foreigners speaking Spanish, it's people eating our food how it should be eaten. Well done! I hope you enjoyed yourself.

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago

    The food culture of Mexico is amazing, and if you're eating at the right places there is usually no option but to speak Spanish! I've had to request "más picante" before, though generally that is at restaurants used to serving gringos. At tianguis or taco guys on the street there's usually no problem getting the spice.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago*

    So I have a question about this.

    When I was in high school I worked with a woman from Mexico (many immigrants actually, it was an ag job), like her English wasn’t that great because she recently moved to that area sort of thing.

    She was nice, maybe late 20s, and had a couple kids. She brought lunch for me a few times that she made, and I was blown away by how bland it was, since I’d been under the impression that Mexican food was typically spicier (kinda like most Indian food I’ve has is strongly flavored) so I asked about it.

    She said that in Mexico they don’t actually make everything super hot, because kids need to eat and don’t like spice, so most spice is added by the eater at the table or whatever.

    Is that true, or was she being nice about my possibly offensive confusion?

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  • [–] 50 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I’m white and they said that to me once, but there was such an underlying tone of menace in “Indian hot” that I knew they weren’t fucking around.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    That is such a perfect way to describe how "Indian hot" is offered! No malice, of course, just an honest warning!

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Why don't you make hot a little hotter, make that the top number and make that a little hotter?

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  • [–] 6 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Most places only have 10 hot, but if you're chowing on 10 and want to go hotter, where can you go from there? That's why ours goes to 11

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago

    A friend and I went to an indian place and got their hottest dish. We both kinda shrugged at it, and the waiters took offense and brought out raw onions slathered in hot sauce. Eating those helped, but it still wasn't really spicy, ya know? Neither of us are even the heat fanatics, habanero levels of hot are good enough, so maybe some places just do like 5s and hope nobody wants the 10s.

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  • [–] 29 points 10 months ago

    Sometimes when my boyfriend and I want a spicy cuisine, I’ll do the online ordering because I’m the one with the non-white name. He’s convinced they tone down the spice levels when they see his name on the order.😂

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I’m white British and went through this at a New Zealand Indian restaurant. After all the warnings, Indian spicy was barely even mid-level spicy. I’m from Bradford and don’t need mollycoddling.

    In my experience Indians and British Asians are not even that into spice heat as a whole.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    A kebab place in town used to have their spicyness range from "Norwegian mild" to "immigrant spicy".

    I once went from my regular order of "Norwegian spicy" up to "immigrant mild". Bad move for me, delicious kebab though.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I kinda wanna ask for Indian spicy next time I go to a restaurant

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Ask if they could bring just a spoon full for you to test your might. I bet they'd have a laugh setting your intestines on fire.

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  • One time I was at an event with Indian catering. I picked the dish I wanted, and the caterers warned me that it was spicy. I was halfway through it when the person I was having a chat with asked if the spicy dish was good. I was like "what? This is supposed to be spicy?" Then I paid attention and realised it was a bit spicy, I just forgot because it was less spice than I'm used to. It was delicious though and I used my naan to soak up all the sauce

    I guess that was probably white spicy. I want to try Indian spicy now

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    The Indian place I often go to will only actually give me the spice level I’m asking for (1-10 scale) if I call to order it. If I go in and ask for it spicy, it’s always suuuuper mild. Very very annoying, because damnit that’s not what I ordered, and I know what I’m doing. I’ve even specifically asked for it to be done the way they’d eat it and nope.

    My partner makes ghost pepper and reaper sauces. They just made ghost jerky. I like reaper cheese. I can handle it, but no. They won’t give it to me unless they don’t know it’s for me :(

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  • [–] 72 points 10 months ago (18 children)

    I moved recently and tried a Thai place down the street. The guy asked if I wanted mild, medium, or spicy, and I said spicy. He said :No, I think mild." I didn't know what to say and he added "...but you can have it however you want." I decided to try medium.

    He came by after and asked how the spiciness was, and I said it was just a little spicier than I like it (I ate it without issue), and he said "I told you!"

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  • [–] 46 points 10 months ago (14 children)

    You just gotta know whose palate it's balanced for. Taco bell is meant for white people. Their hottest sauce has a maybe jalapeño-level spice to it (and it tastes like shit). Go to any legit Thai or Indian place and their medium will destroy the hottest you can get at any tex-mex chain.

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  • [–] 17 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    Is it racist to say Taco Bell is meant for white people?

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Just a casual reminder that this guy is a Mexican, raised in Mexico City.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Looked it up (under "Early life" on Wikipedia). Born in Washington D.C. actually, but his father is of Mexican and Hungarian-Jewish descent and the family lived his first 7 years in Mexico.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago*

    Born in Washington D.C. actually

    That's actually the reason I couldn't use the phrase "born & bred", because it would've been inaccurate. However, it is accurate to say he's Mexican (has dual US & Mexico citizenship) and grew up (spent most of his formative years) in Mexico City.

    Edit whops I said "raised in" not "grew up in".

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  • [–] 7 points 10 months ago (6 children)

    We really need a decent scale for spicyness of foods. The mild/medium/spicy thing is by far too unspecific.

    There's an Indian place down the road that we sometimes order from. I like moderate levels of spicy, so it works well for me. But my wife dislikes hot spicy foods at all. So when I ordered the food I asked if the dish is completely non-spicy, and they confirmed that it was completely non-spicy, and it was too spicy for my wife.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Afaik scoville only works for chilli peppers. It doesn't work for other spicy things like e.g. pepper and it doesn't work for prepared dishes either.

    So you can say "This dish contains chilli peppers with X scoville", but since the amount of chilli in there also matters, that's only part of the equation. For example, a single drop of 100 000 scoville chilli pepper on a whole plate of otherwise non-spicy food might be less spicy than e.g. a dish consisting almost entirely of 30 000 scoville chilli peppers.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (1 child)

    Seems like something where you could ask where eating a whole jalapeno falls on their spiciness scale, because that's a very mild pepper and as someone who likes moderate spice and enjoys jalapeno based dishes, that seems like a very good anchor to start with

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    That's not a bad idea, actually.

    Maybe that could replace the scale actually. "This dish is equivalent to 5 pepper corns. This one here is equivalent to a jalapeno. This one is equivalent to a habanero." and so on.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Honestly the mild sauce taste better, even though I like really spicy like ghost pepper+ levels of heat I get mild at Taco Bell on the rare occasion I go.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    Yeah, it doesn't have to be that way, but it so often is. I like the Herndez brand mexican salsa you get at the grocery store (US), but the flavor of the medium is so much better than the flavor of the hot. It's like with the hot ones, the only care about getting the heat.

    I've had very hot sauces that had really good flavor, it just seems more rare.

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  • [–] 49 points 10 months ago (24 children)

    It's taco bell, it's all mild sauce

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Salt is often a bit too spicy for me

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    This is why we need better language describing spices in English. We have salty spices and spicy hot spices. Even if spicy hot spices there are three very different and distinct chemicals that make spicy hot spices.

    That's not even to begin to tackle the question of how to talk about the levels of the spice.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    Ordered TBell over the weekend, and the order came with Diablo. Don't usually order sauce because I have my own. Decided to give it a try.

    It was like barely more spicy than hot Tobasco or Chalula. I was honestly disappointed

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  • [–] 15 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    Everybody watch out, we got a badass over here.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago*

    They're not wrong, though. Even their Diablo sauce is only rated to around ~15,000 SHU (though some will argue that Fire sauce is hotter and thus Diablo is actually less than 1000, myself included).

    Even if the rating is accurate, that means at the very most Taco Bell sauce is barely hotter than a jalapeño, which any hot sauce enthusiast will confirm is on the lower end of the Scoville scale.

    The point I'm making is that they're not bragging, they're stating simple facts.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (7 children)

    I just believe words have meaning

    If Taco Bell has sauces that are Hot, Fire, and Diablo then what are other actual hot sauces called?

    It's hyperbole, like someone saying their chicken wings were AMAZING.

    If by some miracle Jesus came down from heaven and made sweet love to you all night what would you call it? They've already wasted AMAZING on a damn chicken wing.

    credit to Louis CK for the Jesus bit

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago

    If Taco Bell has sauces that are Hot, Fire, and Diablo then what are other actual hot sauces called?

    Hot sauce has a long history of hyperbole with marketing. I get that a lot of folks have a preference for high spice (I am one) and the pinch of cayenne that goes into a fancy fruit pie or taco bell sauce packet is going to be barely detectable, but I cook a lot for other folks and if someone says they don't like any spice then diablo will ruin their night.

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  • [–] 5 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Doesn't feel mild coming out the other end.

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Sounds like you might have gastrointestinal issues. Taco Bell hot sauce isn't potent enough to give you the shits.

    Could also be previously undiagnosed lactose intolerance, especially if you usually order it "supreme" (which adds sour cream).

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  • [–] 48 points 10 months ago

    I'm a white man, I enjoy very spicy food. My partner is a southeastern Asian woman, who enjoys a bit less spicy food. I find it easier if we just order for each other and swap plates when the food comes. Because the servers assume that I can't handle spice, and my partner can. Which is incorrect. Also, my partner isn't very happy about it.

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  • [–] 63 points 10 months ago (9 children)

    A guy I work with once went with his two black friends to their local chip shop, owned by a big Jamaican guy.

    He was the only white person in there, and when he placed his order, the owner went "Dja want gravy wit dat? White people always want graavyy".

    He did want gravy.

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  • [–] 11 points 10 months ago

    Racial profiling in food is just an attempt to deliver the customer what they want. It would be the most benign form.

    I'm oldish and pasty white, I have a hell of a time getting Mexican places to make it proper hot.

    That said, I do love me potatoes and gravy...

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  • [–] 30 points 10 months ago (5 children)

    I once went to a Chinese restaurant and when food arrived they also gave me a fork, when I looked around all the Asian customers were given chopsticks.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago

    I was on a date with an Asian woman years ago, and she decided to order Chicken Fried Rice. I don't remember what I ordered, but it was something less stereotypically "white".

    They gave me the fried rice, and a fork. We just laughed, traded dishes, and asked for another pair of chopsticks.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 months ago

    My first partner was adopted from China as a baby, so she looked Chinese but culturally she was 100% Canadian, raised in a very meat & potatoes kind of family.

    My mom is a bit of a hippy, so she loved cooking stuff from all different cuisines and we'd regularly use chopsticks at home if eating Asian foods.

    We went to a Chinese place together once and the staff were howling with laughter at the white kid using chopsticks opposite the Asian woman with a knife and fork. She learned how to use chopsticks shortly after, haha.

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  • [–] 23 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    That podcast is hilarious for all the wrong reasons. They are not only race reductionists but they basically boil everything down to individual attitudes and beliefs.

    One of the most egregious ones was when they told people not to practice speaking people’s native languages with them and to hire a tutor! Dumbest fucking people, they are equally as smart as MAGA.

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    [–] 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I feel like the stereotype has trended binary recently: white dudes are either the "black pepper is too spicy" type, or they're the chili heads who mainline reapers

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  • [–] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    As a white girl, I like medium peppers and can occasionally enjoy a habeñero sauce but I'll feel it. The thing is it's just unremarkable, so I rarely say it. Most white people in my life like how spicy I cook things. That said my mom actually did think black pepper was too spicy.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 months ago (2 children)

    I like stuff that's hot but not to the point I can't taste anything in the food other than hotness. It's supposed to be a condiment not take over the whole meal.

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  • [–] 3 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    I think that unless folks can handle wildly intense things like reaper sauce, most people's favorite level of spice is just beneath their tolerance. Like they would rather have a spicy meal they can handle than a single crazy spicy bite. It just turns out that people have different tolerances. For some people, that ideal level for them is just a little black pepper. For many people though, black pepper is hardly noticeable, or at least forgettable.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    That's certainly the case with me. I use red pepper flakes a ton and Black pepper is noticeable but I wouldn't consider it spicy or hot. As far as actual hot stuff (to me) habenero sauce seems to about my limit for what I would use and still consider good and I can eat jalapenos all day.

    There's a guy that comes out to our happy hours sometimes that always makes a big show of asking for the hottest wings they have and then after he starts on them asking the waiter if those are really the hottest (while red faced and sweating). It's really annoying.

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