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Thinking about work is not the same as working. Maybe he should invest some money into therapy for his work anxiety.
Maybe I can start building up savings if I work overtime by zoning out of movies and thinking about stocking the grocery store for half an hour...
Hell wait, if I just think about being Nvidia CEO, can I split Jensen's salary?
Thinking about work is not the same as working
I mean that depends entirely on what your work is and what you mean by "thinking". As a designer/developer, just letting thoughts come and go without forcing it during off times is absolutely productive work that gives me a head start the next time I'm back at work "properly" again.
And as a CEO/business owner your job is making decisions for the most part, and thinking about those decisions should better be a big part of that
Bud claims he’s “working” during his full waking hours. Nah, having a job where your decision making and planning is spread out throughout the day does not mean you’re working all the time.
No NVIDIA employee is going to buy that he’s continuously working while going to the movies, playing golf, hanging out with work buddies over lunch, etc. while they’re physically sitting at a desk working. Sure, there are pockets of work in there and productive things may happen, but he’s not working in the same sense his staff is.
It is a lie that CEO's publicize about themselves. He has two children. If he actually was working 7 days a week from the moment he woke up he would have never had a chance to get married and have children- which is the life his workers lead.
Musk used to brag about working 7 days a week one day, and the next day brag about how he never missed his children's soccer games.
They don't understand the actual concept of working. They think taking a call once in a while while out at a soiree counts entirely as work time.
Most are sociopaths who definitely do not think about other people, so it's probably true that he does nothing else but think about the work. Eg Elon
Musk brags about working 100-hour weeks ... while being the CEO of five companies. That means that at best being a CEO of one company is a 20-hour-a-week part time job.
That's because his work is thinking about how much money he could be making, not actually producing anything substantial. Those days are long gone
Honestly the CEO behavior sounds like a mental illness.
It honestly sounds like a really horrible life. I'd rather be a cleaner.
That was my first thought. Why the fuck do ceos get a pass for making their mental shit everyone else's problem? When I do that, I get an expensive trip to the psych ward.
It's also proof that there wouldn't be major negatives from a wealth tax. These guys love working, it's not about the money, they all say it. So, let them keep working, but give their earnings to people who need it.
My boss says he has not taken a day off in 6 years.
Posts pics of him on a boat fishing with our CRO on a Monday . . .
Most CEOs are so useless, but their idea of "working" is just thinking about work and money all day but not actually doing anything.
A lot of Natural Managerial types think pointing a finger and saying "Do That" is the same as actually doing it, and they take credit for it because their Natural Managerial skills made it happen, not the actual work.
This isn't just confined to workplace environments. Lots of people are like that in home/ family environments, relationships, friendships, etc.
Well, you know, he talked to somebody for two seconds on his phone while on vacation. ;\
Pathetic! Is this nvidio guy an amateur? i think about work while i SLEEP. i'm easily putting in 140+ hours PER WEEK. is this guy browsing tictac while on the shitter or what? get your numbers up lil bro, someday you'll make it big. i swear nobody wants to work anymore, bunch of entitled slackers
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he cant even sit through a movie without thinking about his $4.2 trillion tech giant
I'm so close to starting to feel sad for him
Dudes counting thinking about work as work.... Which means so many 40 hour jobs should be paid for 80 hour weeks then.
I need a Jira epic for "thinking about work" on my activity timeline.
My uncle was told a long time ago if they went to lunch and talked about work at all to mark the hour as paid and he said he felt bad so didn't. There is no way I'd not mark that these days.
I've billed a client for thinking about their problem while commuting on a train. I don't see much difference.
These are people that count a three hour business lunch as 'working' though. Also, I don't give a fuck about people choosing to work themselves to death. It's the ones that don't have a choice that I care about.
These are people that count a three hour business lunch as 'working'
These people also get mad about people using their phone whilst at work. Define irony.
"I don't give a fuck". ("I don't care it" OR "They can go to hell") ???
I believe bosses really "extract value" of employees (aka, they steal us)
If you’re in a position to walk away from almost anything you are doing at work and have someone else do it instead, and you’re still paid, it’s not work. If you are in this position, have family, and work 7 days a week, you have a self-regulation problem. See a fucking therapist.
i like how its counted as work just thinking about work for him. but it only counts as work for his employees when they are online under the supervision of their manager.
Was there even an article to go with this headline, or do we just publish any off–hand remarks made by rich tech dudes now?
I didn't realise thinking about work was work.
It's a sure sign that you have a shitty work life balance.
I was at some work dinner and talked to some guy i didn't really know. He had a 2 year old child and said something like: "he knows that he and his wife work too much and they hardly see their child." I gave him a look like: "that's kinda sad." But i think he misinterpreted it and said: "oh don't worry, i'm not a guy who believes in WoRk LiFe BaLaNcE." Like he was so close to say, i'm not woke or a fag, don't worry.
As a mechanical engineer I can't really turn it off. It's why I work yearly jobs and not hourly jobs. But it's a cool job where I make things, not human drama.
As a researcher, a good chunk of my work is literally just sitting on my ass and thinking. Or thinking while taking a walk in the park, or thinking while mindlessly chopping wood in a video game. Now with a kid, it's kind of switched to thinking about what to do for dinner, how I can get the chores done for the day or how to organize my time so that I can fit in a few hours of work. It's work in the sense that it's something that needs to be done and it has an energy cost to doing. It's also not really something you can turn off even if you wanted to.
I highly suspect he's full of shit, too. Most likely, he counts all kinds of non-work activities as work, because he does them in an executive-ly capacity. And, in general, claiming you're a hyper-optimised work machine is fashionable in Silicon Valley.
Very large companies run themselves by inertia alone.... until the c-suite fucks it up trying to make more money.
This must be the 10th time I comment this on Lemmy and you might already know this, but:
The reason a CEO gets paid what he gets paid is not because of the value he adds to the company (as you pointed out, anyone could do the job), but because when the company fucks up (whether due to his decisions, or those of the board, or just anything, really), he takes the fall so the company can keep on doing whatever shady shit they're doing and the board can act like they had no idea what was going on.
The reason a CEO gets paid what they get paid is that they also sit on the boards of other companies and vote for the compensation packages of their CEOs, who also sit on the board of the CEO's company. It's literally a circlejerk.
That helps, but largely the boards consist of major shareholders, or people that the shareholders have elected to be there.
The board, representing the shareholders, needs to make sure the company maximizes shareholder value above all else. They steer the company in very broad strokes. But if the company does something illegal or highly unpopular, the board members want themselves, the shareholders and the company in general to be as insulated as possible. So the CEO is a sacrificial lamb who either resigns or is fired, and takes the golden parachute. The idea is that the CEO was at fault and everything's gonna be better now (no it's not lol)
And what kind of job do you think those shareholders do?
They are CEOs of other companies.
Being a CEO and being a shareholder have nothing to do with each other.
The truly rich, AKA the major shareholders, aren't going to bother with a job, unless running their own company (probably the one they're the major shareholder at).
Then the big institutional shareholders (Blackrock and the like) invest other people's money - people like you and me.
Only a minority of shareholders for any given company, are CEOs at other companies.
It's still a club for the ultra rich and we ain't in it. I'm just saying that your average CEO is set up to be a scapegoat for even richer and shadier people (while still very much not being one of us working class citizens)
Nvidia CEO couldn't do my job for an hour, and I work in tech
Hour to hour and day to day that's probably true. But, nVidia is actually an example of a company where their leadership made some smart decisions decades ago by understanding their market extremely well and correctly predicting what was going to be happening in the industry 5-10 years down the line. For example, he went all in on CUDA almost a decade before the AI went mainstream, and because of that decision, nVidia is the biggest company in the world today.
I would bet that if a major decision came up and you had to decide whether or not to go all in on X, you couldn't actually do his job.
And by work they really mean “jerks off to his leather jacket collection”
Working hard, or jerking hard?
Wat a sad life.
A mother who works two jobs and can't sit through a movie without thinking about her kids is also sad, but at least she does it for something good
Cool I can't do that without thinking about my job either. Thinking about your job isn't work unless you fuckers want to start paying for it.
The most upsetting part of this is how little time he spends fearing for his fucking life while his buddies’ news stations print articles like this.
Here's something for your toolbox: our society commits idolatry constantly.
That sounds absolutely fucking miserable.
Only difference between this and a drug addict is the drug addict doesn't generate value
I dunno, we shouldn't view people in terms of generating value, but rather in terms of needs.
What the drug addict needs, is treatment. And this CEO needs a ton of it - to step down and foster a healthier work culture, where workplace democracy is present.
I question how much value this guy actually generates, too. Probably a normal amount for however many hours of work, but he and his immediate colleagues set the wages.
To argue the value of the man is one thing, no CEO is worth a billion times more than their employee. However, my point is moreso that the destructive nature of an addicted individual is only tolerated depending on whether that person has a certain value tied to them.
We would allow men like this to consume the world in favor of helping the drug addict.
Poor guy doesn't even have time to take in a Coldplay concert!
Where does he have his affairs then?
In the executive suite bathroom.
Omg guys I'm so addicted to working! I just can't stop workinggggg I think I'm addicted with how much I workkkk! I'm just so exploitable ;)))
I'm definitely not at the golf club while I write this.
I do wonder what these guys count as work. It's like when elon musk said he works 14 hours a day 7 days a week, while also playing a lot of overwatch and binge watching anime while caring for his child.
I'm sure he "works hard" like in that CEO workweek graph.
If 20 hours of your 55 hour work week is "miscellaneous personal stuff", you have a 35 hour work week. 🤦🏻♂️
And if 5 hours of your 35 hour work week are "business meals", you have a 30 hour work week.
That image legit ticks me off.
Imagine believing that just thinking about your job, equates to "working". Give me a break.
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