those faces have seen a LOT of cocaine

There's a sucker born every minute. We call them Evangelicals.

They were obviously fake to me as a child but adults fell for all their BS, and adults still fall for it today from different creepy criminals. Same dualistic, small, tribal minds that choose to stay wrong.

It's wild to me that those suckers and losers continue to support Trump.

Guess he just "tells it like it is"

100%. It’s unfortunate that more attention isn’t paid to the “Southern Strategy” - started by Nixon but honed and perfected by Reagan. It was basically a massive counter-revolution where whites hated that black Americans were granted civil rights, marginally improved economic standing, and more broadly there’s at least an attempt to put whites and blacks on an equal footing. This sort of white supremacy was sort of laundered through evangelical Christianity but yes, it’s whiteness first. The “Moral Majority” began as movement to fight the government from removing the tax-exempt status for private Christian schools that practiced racial segregation, for example. While white evangelical Christianity does predate the reaction to the Civil Rights movement, I think it’s fair to say that this white supremacy is the foundation for modern white evangelicalism.

I see what you did there...

That group is voting on the fact that their economic horizons have become so limited (job market sucks, housing prices are way too high, etc). If Democrats can address those concerns, it could be lasting. If they don’t I imagine they could whipsaw back to Republicans.

The reason that former US allies are still not going to trust the US after this vote is that after the absolute shit-show that is a Trump presidency with a GOP house and GOP senate, 50% of American men are STILL voting Republican.

And, that's the vote. That's not the people who couldn't bring themselves to vote for the GOP this time, but stayed home rather than vote Democratic.

It's just a matter of time before the US swings back to MAGA again. If that happens the US might once again renege on its treaties, threaten allies, start wars, and break international laws.

I think the particular characteristic of evangelicals is that being divorced from reality and isolated from dissenting voices is exactly what they aspire to. The more obviously wrong a position is, the more giddily you hold to it. It's all a test of faith. Reality is the devil's domain.

They are completely divorced from reality.

I saw a sticker on an electrical junction box yesterday: "END RACISM AND HATE: stop voting for democrats". Had to rub my eyes and blink a few times.

He and Santa both 😭

Bob Dylan, Masters of War:

How much do I know

To talk out of turn

You might say that I'm young

You might say I'm unlearned

But there's one thing I know

Though I'm younger than you

That even Jesus would never

Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question

Is your money that good

Will it buy you forgiveness

Do you think that it could

I think you will find

When your death takes its toll

All the money you made

Will never buy back your soul

Would you believe that the US used to have solid contingent of Christian Socialists?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_socialism

But that probably wasn't covered much in most US schools' history classes, as many of the school textbooks for the entirety of the US are subject to an editorial pass from the Texas State Board of Education.

https://www.pbs.org/independentlens/documentaries/revisionaries/

Which has been under (evangelical) Republican control since 1994... untill now.

https://www.texastribune.org/2026/11/04/texas-state-board-education-elections-2026/

but I bet it’s an abrahamic thing

I'm no fan of imaginary friends in the sky, but it's a human thing. Consider the gentle Buddhists in Sri Lanka and in Myanmar, having committed genocides against Tamils and Rohingya Muslims, respectively. And let's not forget the massacres of Indian Muslims by peaceful, vegetarian Hindu extremists.

And if you think it's only the religious who do atrocities, consider the Holodomor and the Great Leap Forward.

Power is the problem, exacerbated by the human propensity to believe what they're told.

Their plan is to knowingly be evil here, then pretend that they're sorry at the pearly gates.

So they just have to fool God, and they're in.

Christ would have a hard on for the 2nd coming.

It's even simpler: Satan is the father of lies. Trump is one of the most prodigious liars in recent history.

Speaking as an old white man: I'm sorry. I don't like us either.

The god of the Bible is vengeful and narcissistic. An authoritarian asshole, much like Trump.

They're no less Christlike than many other Christians throughout history.

Evangelicals believe HARD in an end time prophecy and think jesus will personally hoover them up to heaven before bringing suffering to earth to punish the rest of us for our wicked ways. Evangelical think they are special. More special then everyone else. More important then anyone else. That's why they "know" jesus will personally rapture them to heaven and they are willing to kill humanity for the privilege. They really think they are god's favored and actively try to make certain events happen to move the prophecy along. They don't give a fuck about the future, or climate change, or preventing WWIII because in their minds the world ending is a good thing because it means jesus will come back - they want armageddon.

I grew up in an evangelical household. I was taught all the jews have to return to Isreal where they will die, the "good" christians will get raptured, and the rest of us heathens will earn hell on earth before dying horribly. They spend a large amount of time ruminating on this future they want to bring about. All religious sects have issues, but only one has a world ending death wish and has infested the US government which happens to have the biggest military on earth. That's a problem.

Watch the movie Bible Camp

Edit: it's actually called Jesus Camp

There's a lot of debate on that, if you want to get into the academic side. I think the best definition for it (when I was studying it in college) was based on four primary 'focuses' of evangelism. The wikipedia article on the scholar that laid them out explains them in brief: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_W._Bebbington
I've seen them cheekily laid out with the '-centrism' part in every one, as in 'biblicentric,' 'crucicentric,' 'conversioncentric,' and 'activity-centric.' The wikipedia page on evangelicalism itself is a pretty big slog, but talks more in depth about them.

What those four things mean in practice is very interesting, again in an academic manner, in how neatly they lay the groundwork for MAGA/this shit we're seeing. The biblicentric primes them to reject the authority of more 'traditional' sects when there exists conflict between beliefs (even between different evangelical churches), because the bible is 'always right' and you can always find something in the bible to contradict something someone is saying, and is a major part of why evangelicals that move will church shop for a while (so they can find one that fits with their beliefs, highlighting, of course, that their beliefs are not necessarily based on much more than vibes). Crucicentrism isn't as big, but it's a part of their 'us vs. them' mentality that pops up. The emphasis on conversions and activism is part and parcel of why so many of them want to force their beliefs on others (think abortion bans and such).

Now take those religious aspects, and throw them at politics (where politicians specifically target them). They're already primed to reject logic, even christian logic, so republican (well, fox news style propaganda even more so) calls to reject what the other side says finds fertile ground. Use their desire to spread their beliefs in controlling, political manners, and you've roped in every one of them that wants to 'do christianity' with all the guilt they have built in about not improving anything suddenly being assuaged.

In theory, it's a subset of Protestantism that's more concerned with evangelism (sharing the gospel and converting others), as well as a couple of other doctrinal distinctions, than the "Mainline." Evangelicals and Mainline together make up Protestants; Protestants, Orthodox, and Catholics together make up Christians.

In practice, at least in the US, "evangelical" seems to have come to mean "activist;" as in, politically right-wing.

With white evangelicals, it's racism, xenophobia (big overlap there) and misogyny.

"BDS"? Sorry, am old and out of touch.

You dropped this: need

Because they're significant voting blocks with a history of letting their religion say how to vote