Some of the worst people in the country. I was raised evangelical, even the folks I know who were decent on an interpersonal level would never consider voting for anyone other than Republicans.

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[–] 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

The god of the Bible is vengeful and narcissistic. An authoritarian asshole, much like Trump.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    I hear there's a sequel to the Old Testament.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    In which not one jot or tittle of the [old testament] is invalid before the Earth is destroyed.

    In other words, everything horrible in Yahweism 1.0 carries on into 2.0 and 2.5 (though 3.0 disavows 2.0). Or you can ignore the plain language there, but then there's no reason for anyone to listen to (or not interpret away) any fraction in particular at all if the answer is just "the bits I find convenient are correct".

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    Depends on which bit of the New Testament you're looking at, and particularly, who's talking. Old JC generally sounded pretty strongly wedded to the Torah (as did his brother James who later ran the Church in Jerusalem), but St Paul wanted to move on from it and open up the religion to gentiles.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    The Old Testament that is used today has not yet been decided upon until quite some time after the probable span of time in which Matthew was written, we actually do not know for certain what texts are referred to here.

    It is true that the Bible does not have a single message, and contradicts itself often, so Christians necessarily pick and choose, even if they don't want to admit it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    The Old Testament that is used today has not yet been decided upon until quite some time after the probable span of time in which Matthew was written

    The Torah was fully locked in long before that time. The haggling was about the status of some of the other books of the OT (some of which Christians still don't agree on, either).

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  • [–] 0 points 23 hours ago

    That is true, but it is still not known if Jesus was referring to the whole Torah, parts of it, or to some other law we don't consider. We do not know his stance to other jewish sects at the time, other than his dislike of pharisees. My point is that it's all just pick and choose, there is no single voice or historic certainty or any of the sort

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