exactly what it feels like when airlines list "board first" as a perk for paying twice as much
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None of those dates have the year on them.
Mildly amusing. I ship UPS all the time at work, and always check all the options for the best balance of speed and cost. The number of times the cheapest option is estimated to arrive before a more expensive choice cracks me up. Not always, but way more than I'd expect.
Can only assume the cheaper option is the higher volume option that will have better leverage from economies of scale. Lower price is usually where that surfaces but I can easily see it surfacing as more flights and faster delivery if the route is just right.
The OPs screenshot could also be a mucked up shipping config. Saw that at work recently, two employees sitting next to each other making labels, one gets $200+ per shipping label the other sub-$30 shipping labels. They did a test of trying to make the exact same label and got different rates so they finally said "okay time to talk to Fedex about fixing this..." Only after shipping a few hundred items at the exhorbanant rates was this fully figured out...
I think that this is just a shipping cost function that Shopify provides to shops. I don't think that the seller added these options. Its just showing different options that they have access to in their system. No human has looked at these options and decided that they make sense. The store probably doesn't even know.
I hate how shopify has taken over internet commerce. I refuse to buy from anywhere that uses it, but it is becoming increasingly difficult.
You're gonna flip when you hear about it's cousin Amazon
Unfortunately there's a lot of small businesses out there that rely on Shopify, it stinks but I have been forced to use them a few times.
….. oh fucking kay…….
Do you…do you shop only with the Amish or?????
Like don’t tell me you shop at a major corp or own a car or that you have a phone while boycotting small business lol what the hell.
Shopify is shit but like, holy fuck literally angels next to bezos.
I don't buy from big corps. The majority of my purchases are done in person in local shops. I have a Fairphone which while not perfect, is much better than the average phone, with a degoogked version of android. While I do have an electric car, I bought it used and still use public transport when I can. I am vegan.
Forgive me for trying to avoid a shit company that is less shit than others.
I understand that I am privileged to be able to make the choices I have. Not everybody is able to do so. But fucking hell, why put people down for trying to make better choices where they can.

Having worked in the shipping industry the “Promise” branding everywhere is hilarious to me. Even “guaranteed” shipping doesn’t mean shit — the industry will do nothing but lead you on until the final moment when you’re truly just fucked.
This is like when I withdraw money from PayPal, and it's like... idk the exact wording or cost, but along the lines of
Please choose a withdrawal option.
🔘 Option 1
Usually instant.
No fee
⚪ Option 2
Takes up to a few hours.
2% processing fee
Fucking hate all of this. With payments online getting easier I’m finding it more convenient to order from small websites again and stop using Amazon. But when it comes to shipping, things are really not getting any faster or easier. While Amazon is always a day behind their promises, they are usually much faster than anyone else.
Logistics are incredibly difficult. The reason Amazon is faster is the same reason they’re bigger, vertical integration. Owning the whole shipping process has huge benefits when shipping speed matter s
Yeah. A naive response would be “isn’t UPS big too?” But the shipping is only part of retail logistics. When you also control the warehousing distribution, and can back-feed logistical availability data all the way to the retail interface to affect what people buy in the first place… you have power that no fleet of trucks alone can overcome.
Can agree with this more they also have warehouses near or in major cities to help cut down travel time where small businesses might ship themselves or use a 3PL with one or two fulfilment points.
Rates are so variable too especially when weights exceed a threshold (usually a pound)
They quit putting packages on planes. They even have Hawaii going by boat now. I see retail rates over $20 to ship ground within the usa. They are claiming shipping will start to take two weeks soon. Yes, be prepared for this. This fucking president and the assholes that voted for them need to be held accountable for this.
Everything about this country is down the shitter and in the pipes. It's insane how calculated the installation of apathy into Americans was/is though. Built up over decades through the actions of dark money and wackos. It permeates even the oldest generations.
It might be time to accept again that an order can take a few days to arrive.
There's a shop I occasionally order from and it has three options.
- within three hours, free
- standard shipping, 3-7 days, $15
- express post, next day, $26
No idea why same day is free when they're basically sending it in an uber vs the post. It's handy though
It's obvious, you're paying for the FREEDOM to pay more! /s
Overnight shipping is expensive
Remove the first free line, and it is the story of Canadians trying to buy something from the US... plus $300 fee you receive 3 weeks later.
That New Zealand experience where you desperately try to find the thing you need anywhere but Amazon, but it's the only seller. With shipping that costs more than the item.
Fun part is that you have to pay tax when importing based on the full value including shipping.
Isn't this rather c/softwaregore?
If you live in a major metropolitan center, anything shipped from relatively close will get to you next day, so changing the service level doesn't matter.
Higher tier service is only useful when shipping longer distances or to areas that aren't shipped to frequently enough to have a nearby hub.
In this case the seller probably offers free basic shipping regardless, and charges for other options, regardless of the buyer's need.
Since this is in the mildly infuriating community, you view this as infuriating, but I think this is preying on the psychology of the average person who doesn't think about things as much.
They just breeze by this and don't look closely, but they get the vague impression that the store is saving them a bunch of money, so they'll be more likely to continue shopping there.
Kinda in the same vein as charging full price and showing the discount separately on the invoice or receipt. People need to see that the seller saved them money or they made a wise choice to save themselves money.
There's also something called the decoy effect, talked about a bit in this entertaining TED Talk.
If you need it by Oct 28, you really only have one option. (In that you must choose between three options.)
eBay's shipping options often look like this for US to Canada items. A book will be $60 shipping but a larger heavier item is $25.
Does "Promise" mean that it's guaranteed to arrive on that day, or is it just a dumb name for a shipping company?
Silly yes, but I've had to do this at my job before to get the "guaranteed" delivery by X date. Does it work? Sometimes
Really bothered that 3d and 2d arrive on the same damn day!
Its not that the merchant is offering these prices to you. They're using another service to get shipping quotes on demand and display them to you transparently. Why they're so high, I can not explain, but it may have to do with global fuel supply and an all time high demand for shipping services.
I like to imagine the buyer lives next door to the warehouse, so no matter how they send it - on the back on a tortoise, or fired out of a railgun - it'll arrive same day.
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