A bisexual is a pansexual who's had enough of kitchen jokes
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Being a lover of cast iron cookware, I identify as pansexual.
I just like the bisexual flag colors better.
Same. That's literally the only reason I say bi and not pan
Wait, wait, wait, pansexual is when you have a love for wide screen photography, right?
What do the columns, the stalactite-stalagmites grow from in this analogy.
When a bisexual and a pansexual love each other very much... they grow together :)
Agender, neopronoun, and nonbinary identities
Those are still covered under bisexual though. Technically, if you're a woman attracted to nonbinary people, you're heterosexual.
And this is why we invented new and better words.
My understanding is that bisexuals select all partners from both sexes and pansexuals select all partners from all genders
That understanding is wrong.
Bisexual means "homo and hetero sexual". So, "attracted to my own gender and not-my-own gender". Thats the classical definition.
And then people who didn't understand that, invented the world pansexual to mean exactly the same thing.
Do you have a resource to confirm what you're saying? Because homosexual means same sex and heterosexual is opposite sex. Bisexual would be both sexes by that reasoning
"hetero" means "different" not "opposite". The source would be any dictionary mentioning the root.
Your snarky comment about better understanding bisexuality and pansexuality does very little for my actual request for resources.
https://www.wordreference.com/definition/hetero-
There you go. A website that says exactly the same thing I just said.
You're getting too caught up in the dictionary definition of hetero-. Yes I misspoke about what heterosexual means and was wrong about that, but that's not the core of my misunderstanding. I'm asking for resources pertaining to the differences between pansexuality and bisexuality. I want resources that dispell my previous notion that bisexuality is about sex whilst pansexuality is about gender.
Will you be satisfied if I, a nonbinary bisexual tell you that there practically is no difference with the only one that sometimes gets stated being that bisexuals often have some sort of preference in their partner's gender whilst pansexuals are mostly unpreferential?
Most sexuality and gender labels are just some shit that someone thought describes them well enough to get a name. In reality almost all of them fall under some umbrella terms like bisexual or trans. I could technically map out my identity in detail but because I just don't give a shit I just went with the broadest labels I could identify with without it becoming too misleading, which is why I don't usually just say that I am trans but nonbinary instead.
Bisexual - You’re over 35
Pansexual - You’re under 35
Omnisexual - You’ve spent way more time thinking about your sexuality than getting laid
Demisexual - You’re way more queer than you’re ready to admit.
Sapiosexual - You’re a straight guy trying to impress the cute barista by seeming cool and intellectual. You are failing. Or you are a woman on a dating app trying to stop the endless flood of low-effort “sup” introductions. You are also failing.
Edit: Forgot one!
Heteroflexible - Willing to touch someone of the same gender sorta sexually for an audience if you think it means you’ll get a threesome later.
Flexisexual - you'll take what you can get
I like to call it "millenial" vs "gen z" pan/bisexuality
I'm pansexual, solidly a millennial, and started using the term nearly a decade and a half ago. Which was late to the game, since the term had been around for about a decade before that.
Demisexual polyamorous transgender lesbian here - what queerness am I denying myself ;-;
I've been Demisexual since I first watched Striptease as a teenager.
Under what does someone fall, who regularly forgets that sex exists, immune to flirting, needs external reminders/influence and effort to get in to the mood, cant wrap their head around attraction at all and completely hates the hand their dealt with?
Autistic.
Hey now! I may be autistic but I assure you I don’t ever forget sex exists and im horny like 90~95% of the time, but I am completely oblivious to flirting or interesting shown so that doesn’t get mitigated as much as I’d like
Well yeah, little bit of that too. That's what probably makes it more confusing.
That would be asexual
Damnit, why i always circle back to that one.
Probably because the identities we circle back to often have merit even if we don't like it (the number of years I kept finding stupid arguments that I wasn't trans…)
It sounds like you dislike this about yourself. You could check to see if there's a medical issue causing extremely low libido. But fair warning, it may just result in you being horny and not finding anyone attractive.
Yes i kinda dislike it as it is a source of problems and just accepting it wouldn't really solve any issues.
Sadly I've been trying to fix it for years, problems probably started or at least become noticable over a decade ago. By now i have already exhausted approved medical and physical means in trying to fix it, even started replacement therapy eventually as test levels were on the low end even despite doing as much as possible to boost those.
While it has had rather good outcome on overall physical and mental health, it hasn't had any effect on libido.
Haven't yet delved into balck market or anabolic steroids territory, yet and of course therapy is still left, but that's rather expensive and social stigma is kinda strong on that subject. Especially for a guy who seemingly shouldn't have any issues regarding it.
Aro/ace.
You need to work on detangling intimacy and sex in your brain, there's no reason to hate lack of drive.
But there is, it causes problems and puts unproportionaly much pressure on the other side. Aka the other side needs to do the initiating 99% of the times, which creates the feeling of not being wanted. Coupled with the constant rejection as well isn't that good on self esteem either.
Like in relationships posts which get more popular, there are always guys who complain how they're tired from constantly initiating and don't feel wanted, which leads to them just giving up all together.
no, there is no reason to hate lack of drive.
Let me put it this way: Do you hate a gay man for not wanting to fuck women? Asexuality is a valid part of the spectrum. If you have no interest, then you have no interest. But it doesn't mean you can't have an intimate relationship or love. Plenty do it. The key is communication - if your partner thinks you have sexual feelings but are rejecting them then it's a very different beast to "I don't have sexual feelings for anyone"
there are always guys who complain how they’re tired from constantly initiating and don’t feel wanted
If you're talking the broader complaints of society here, that's a very different kettle of fish, and a lot of it is tied into not doing the work before just going "snog me, woman!"
I apologize in advance if it gets too depressive or over sharing. I've noticed over the years that just writing things down can be kinda helpful in at least articulating and getting a better understanding of my own mental processes.
Fair, yeah i wouldn't hate another individual over something that simple aka gay man not wanting to fuck woman. It's rather easy to accept other individuals than oneself.
It's so much more easier to hate oneself and beat oneself up, even if it's completely irrational. It's something that can be done, even if detrimental, but it gives at least some form of an illusion over having control over it.
Like not remembering to initiate more or being too tired and not pushing through it or forgetting actions that make the partner feel wanted or the equipment being already fully primed and ready to go, but the mind not being there. If i fail those, it's my fault. I have to do better and try harder. Maybe if i keep searching for long enough i will eventually find a cure or a fix.
Accepting asexuality seems like giving up without a fight, like surrendering.
While love and intimacy might be rather complicated concepts for me, as I've understood yes those are possible without sex, but once again from a practical perspective overwhelming majority of people do see sex as the main distinction between friendship and a relationship. So the lack of drive or desire is going to be a rather huge disadvantage.
Yes i know and been told that I'm not supposed to "date" half the population, so the disadvantage shouldnt matter, but i never did manage to figure out what's supposed to be the driving force beyond practicality then.
On the broader complaints part. Fair, probably a bad example as i tried to show the effect of not feeling wanted and the burden of being the one who disproportionately has to initiate, while taking it from a too biased perspective and not properly knowing the background details, though it still does hit rather close to home being at the opposite end of it.
Pretty sure that’s demi.
Others are saying grey or ace. Why demi then?
I may have gotten my terms mixed up, but I think demi is reactive sexuality, someone who gets turned on by their partner getting turned on. Requires a bond / connection. Not really interested without it.
I’m not super familiar with terms on that ace spectrum though. It’s somewhere on there.
Fair, reactively getting turned on kinda fits under outside influence part. Though cant tell anything about the bond/connection aspect, as thats way too vague and complicated for me.
It's not reactive, it means that attraction is conditional on an emotional bond existing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demisexuality
Huh, I've only ever heard women describe themselves as sapiosexual
Honestly I think you're giving them too much credit to say they're doing it to avoid messages. It's the same weird virtue signalling in both cases. "Not like the other girls," etc.
It's inventing a sexuality because you think it makes you sounds smart. Ooohh physical attraction is for losers, I'm only attracted to BRAINS. I can't help but think these people would still shy away from an ugly genius
I'm old and refused to claim a flag when they were presented.
I just tell people that "I'm independent, but occupied" or I ask them why they are so concerned about my penis, depending on the manner in which the question was asked.
The difference is that the pans got the better flag colors.
It was recently pointed out to me that an outfit I have been rocking for years makes it look like I’m trying to be a walking bisexual flag: pink button up over a purple tank top with blue shorts. This was by coincidence do but I love those colors so I was fully prepared to die on the hill that it was the superior flag.
But after refreshing my memory, you right the pan flag looks like three flavors of ice cream stacked atop each other
hell nah, the only reason why i don't call myself pan is because the flag colours are ugly
late sunset over a deep ocean vs printer toners
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