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[–] 64 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Kinda why I thought I might be a sociopath. I don't ask things like that because I genuinely do not care.

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  • [–] 28 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    People aren't waiting for the answer so I doubt they even notice that you didn't ask

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    When I ask someone I do generally listen to the reply because I care about the person and want to know how they feel. Most people I ask do ask me back so I try to have an answer ready and it is noticeable when it doesn't happen, but I don't mind.

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  • [–] 26 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    I rarely use people's names.

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    I've been married for almost a decade and still sometimes have to put thought into it before I address my wife by name.

    I once referred to my oldest friend - whom I've known since I was eight - as "what's-his-name." The woman who is now the aforementioned wife responded "you mean your oldest and dearest friend?"

    Pretty much the only person whose name I can remember without trying is my kid, whose name I had a part in choosing.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    If there’s less than a 100% chance that I’m certain what their name is in the second there was an opportunity to use it, I don’t use it; then I immediately beat myself up internally for not using it.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    Part of my mask is almost always asking people how they are feeling for the day when I first start my interaction with them. I used to avoid that kind of small talk, but it actually super helps me make adjustments to my conversations with them and gives me context to why they might speak to me a certain way. When I'm in a burn out phase, I tend to avoid it though because I don't really have the mental energy to process their responses and want to disconnect as quickly as possible.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I engage with them no matter what. My reasons being: if I can handle it, I get a gauge on what mood they’re in and how to talk to them that day, which makes things easier for me since I don’t have to guess. If I can’t handle caring about their response, at least it gets them talking and I don’t have to offer up anything about my life. Just keep steering the conversation back to theirs and they basically handle all the heavy lifting until I can find an out.

    Obviously this does not work perfectly all the time but it usually gets me to the finish line.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    I think a month or two ago I'd have said the same thing, but I've recently hit the worst burnout I've ever experienced... There's been days where I can only get a few words out before my brain just shuts down. Absolutely night and day difference from where I was...sooo now I'm in ultra recovery mode and really focusing on building my battery back up 😓

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Oooofff I am sorry. Hopefully you can recharge and you have some reliable ways to extract yourself from dealing with the energy vampires.

    It’s wild how fast your defences can fail once you get to a certain point.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The solid three minutes after someone asks me how I'm doing before I remember to ask it back, just about every time 😬

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago

    I'm starting to do it more recently, and almost always it feels awkward because I'm mostly doing it because it what I should do, for the reason of... it is what is done.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Same. It’s hard to remember because I assume people ask me because they care about the answer instead of it just being a social ritual. For the same reason I don’t ask it back because I genuinely don’t care.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 months ago*

    Somehow it's the exact opposite for me. I assume people are just asking for the social ritual while I actually care about the answer, but it somehow feels selfish in my mind to expect them to give a genuine answer when I hate doing that myself. So I don't ask. Because obviously, that's how you get people to not dislike you, right? By not making them do things they don't want to do.

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  • [–] 11 points 5 months ago (1 child)
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    Someone said that those Floskeln are there to feel out if you are dangerous.

    As soon as I thought of all that stuff more like signals that you won't attack and your intentions aren't malicious, it made more sense.

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago*

    Notice my daily post is "Hey What's Going On!" And not "How are you?"

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago

    I find it's best to just avoid people wherever possible

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  • [–] 8 points 5 months ago

    I think it's especially important to ask them back if they didn't actually mean it in the first place.

    Normies are weird, you just have to learn some arbitrary rules to coexist with them. It might feel fake, but it's genuine to them.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago*

    Wait what!?!!?

    Though yeah, i kinda totally forget that I'm supposed to randomly ask about small things as well from other people, not just exchange of information.
    Kinda like forgetting to show interest in the other person, well technically there is a grain of truth there as i generally do lack that interest and doing it manually is prone to forgetting it.

    Though it's kinda understandable, autism does effect the social and emotional side of me the strongest.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago

    These days I'm old and wise. I'll remember asking about the other person right after the conversation ended, not a week after.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    That depends on the culture. I have a british coworker who says "hi, how are you" as a greeting, not as a question.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Also the British custom of asking if you're alright which must adhere to the following script:

    "Hiya, you alright?"

    "Oh yeah not so bad. You?"

    "Yeah not bad."

    You can deviate slightly ("can't complain") but under no circumstances must you discuss whether you're actually alright or not. I've genuinely seen this exchange happen at a funeral, with the widower being like "Yeah not so bad..."

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago*

    You don't have to reply back with the person's name, unless it's unclear who you're addressing, which should be abundantly clear in an interaction like:

    "Hey Devin!" "Hey, what's up."

    Adding the "what's up" is important though, or something to the same effect ("how are you", ...), because it helps support the conversation and keep it flowing.

    Just mirroring the "Hey" can feel terse and unwelcoming, like you're not interested in talking because you're not providing the other person a "conversational path" they can follow up on.

    As the conversation continues, usually both parts will be providing "paths" that the other can choose to take, according to their interests.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago* (1 child)

    People usually only explicitly state each other's names when they either need to differentiate to whom they are talking when more than one person could be the subject, or to create lazy exposition in a TV show.

    Also they don't actually care how you are and won't expect anything except that you're fine, it's just a social ceremony.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    These social customs are derived from genuine interactions with friends. I'm curious how you deal with talking to people you care about? When I ask my friends how they are doing I'm actually curious about their lives, and I expect them to also be curious about mine. This type of reciprocation is necessary for a friendship in my opinion.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

    Generally I don't. I try to be supportive of them, help them, take them into consideration when making decisions and just listen when they talk, but i seem to have almost non-existent drive to actually talk or ask about their day or interests, unless it's somehow going to effect my plans or routines in the future or they are under my responsibility.

    Though it has obviously raised questions even in myself. Am i actually interested/caring/whatever towards this particular individual or just following social script or just doing it out of selfish desire not to feel bad.
    Technically 99% of the people around me could be switched out in an instant and I'd go on like nothing happened, excluding the part where i would have to learn and memorize their behavioral patterns again.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Hey, LadyButterfly, I have this problem all the time.

    I'm doing great, thanks, kbye.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Dear Quexotic,

    I’m writing you today to let you know that I, also, relate to the original poster. I appreciate that we have this in common.

    Additionally, I wanted to express that, the thing that you have done here, I see it. While some might disagree, I found it pleasantly subtle, and, due to its nature, subtlety often doesn’t get the recognition it deserves.

    In this case, I felt this mode of expression would both build upon the humorous twist embedded in your message, but also afford the opportunity to pronounce my admiration for that cleverness, even though it may be a minor moment in both of our lives.

    With my warmest regards,

    Jeremy “JP” Parker

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    Yes. I always attributed this to my social anxiety (which led me to being very isolated growing up, minimal social interactions, etc.) but I can also see how it could've been both. At this point, I've never truly felt confident enough to hold any form of small talk with people due to lack of social cues like the image mentions and some other stuff.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 months ago

    I don't know if im autistic but I have never been exactly mainstream. I think my neighbors like me well enough but I also think im strange to them. Some I take some sort of personal slight from me but honestly those folks are like ones its just as well if they avoid me. One thing that is wierd is the tribalism thing. Like people expect if you agree with them on one thing you will on all things. So some people are like mad at you at times but then fine with you based on your lasst conversation. I have no idea when people started expected everyone to agree with them all the time.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    Yes, but I try to remind myself that it’s the correct thing to do even if I’ll get non answers like ”just fine” 95% of the time (even if they’re not ”just fine”)

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I'm quite sociable but also very quiet. I'm thinking being polite of not disturbing or interrupting people. However, at some point I start to wonder why nobody is talking to me. Well, duh, I should ask or talk to people, but this never crosses my mind or just flys past me.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 months ago

    I don't have a problem with it, but the normies sure do seem like they do.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    not autistic, but yeah thats me

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    Protip: if you ask how they're doing you have to talk less.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I sometimes find when you do this, ask how someone's doing outside of the initial small talk bit, they seem to find it more genuine and will open up anout how they're actually doing. When I'm working and someone greets me with :how are you" or "how's it going" I'll usually answer something ridiculous like wonderful! And not ask them back. If we're still working chose by, a bit later I'll ask how they're doing.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    What IS up though?

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago

    "I am functioning within normal parameters."

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    This meme is literally describing a feature of autism then asking “DAE?”

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    Jokes on you - my autistic stepson will continually repeat "how are you? - [and then] ...not bad, how are you?"

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago

    Back in school, when we were starting to learn english as a foreign language, we were explicitly taught, to answer a "how do you do?" with another "how do you do?" and not to actually respond with how we were doing.

    As for the names, I also struggle with that. People greet me like that all the time and I never know, if they are trying to be extra friendly (maybe even because they actually like me and want to show it?), or need to single me out, because they greeted others before, or catch my attention because I'm usually somewhere else with my mind. Or it's just the way they do it and has absolutely nothing to do with me as a person. Also it seems to be mostly women who call me by my name, now that I think about it. I always just reply "hi" without a name, because I always fear to get it wrong and that stresses me out. Though I think my tone changes depending on the person and how happy I am to see them. Sometimes I think about if I should try responding with their name, to let them know I'm actually happy to see them, because I think it actually does make me feel good, when someone I like greets me using my name. But as many others here, I don't really know, if it actually makes a difference for them.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    I'm the same. Don't really care for small talk

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  • [–] 9 points 5 months ago (1 child)

    You might not but it's extremely important. The idea behind small talk is to check if everyone is on the same page. When you're doing small talk you're communicating that you're an ok person and that you're ok with the other person. By skipping or avoiding small talk you're basically fucking with the vibe in the room. Imagine everyone is humming the same song and getting along and you bust down the door and start death growling about the meaning of life and your pokemon card collection while guitars shriek in the background, that's what skipping small talk is.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 months ago

    I nod and wave; usually I'm deep in thought. If I'm walking the halls or navigating cubicle mazes, I'm often doing my work in my head so that when I get back to my cubicle, I can do my work on autopilot while I focus on other things. So when I'm not focusing on normie coworkers, I just nod, wave, smile, something that shows I'm paying attention. If I do focus on them, I use their name if I know it and fake interaction.

    I'm not the only one thrown off by this; I'm not sure if these people are autistic, ADHD, or just unfriendly people, but it helps to know I'm not the only one who isn't an expert at navigating office social circles. But if you need someone to fix your printer or monitor or something, I'm the guy (I'm not IT, I just know a lot and the one IT guy we have stays pretty busy, so I field the simpler calls).

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    I've gotten better about this but yeah I used to do it constantly.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 months ago

    not autistic as far as i know but i relate to this a lot

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    People talk about the eye contact thing, but name usage is way harder for me. I can just look at someone’s eyebrows, but I can’t pull off pet names for people I don’t know very well.

    I feel like I’m either in trouble or the person talking to me wants to sell me something or seduce me when someone calls me by my name, so I don’t want other people to feel like that. It also always feels forced if I just say their name when they say mine, like I didn’t think of it on my own.

    It’s getting tough because I just started teaching and I can tell that everything would be easier if I indicated students by name instead of by eye contact, but I can’t manage to get names out fast enough for them to be helpful.

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  • [–] -5 points 5 months ago

    This isn’t an autism thing, this is a terrible-with-people thing. People won’t think you’re rude, just awkward.

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