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To add on to this: a lot of customers are probably people who have the patience and skill to propogate. (As others have said, propagation isn't really that hard, so it's more about patience and time.) At the same time, if you have the patience and skill to propogate a plant and are still at a greenhouse buying plants, it's probably because you're specifically looking to buy a plant where someone has already done that work for you. You're not going to proplift a plant instead of buying it, because you're there specifically to buy something instead of doing that work.

Propagating plants and growing them from seeds is a longer process that's prone to failure and can take time. It's very common for gardeners to propogate/grow from seed some plants while also buying others that are already more mature in order to eliminate that process or because all their tomatoes this year died and they need new ones.

Sure, maybe every now and again you get someone who's there to buy something else, sees a dropping from a plant they want that they might have otherwise bought, and grabs it, but as you said, that's really not common enough to cut into their margins. You're consistently paying for the saved time and effort when buying plants at greenhouses.

Now, if the greenhouse itself makes a habit of taking fallen plant bits to propogate new ones, that does change things a little bit, because you're taking something they were going to use. But if it's just going into the mulcher, who the fuck cares.

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    Hey there, Lemmy. I've been wondering if anyone here has any tips on specifically sprouting alpine strawberries for hydroponics.

    My usual two methods for hydroponic seeds are "Chuck it in some wet growth media and see" or "sprout the seeds in a damp paper towel and then put them into the growth media once sprouted," but my alpine strawberry seeds don't seem to be loving the first method, and the extremely fine size of strawberry seeds makes me hesitate about the second method.

    I have a volunteer woodland strawberry in my porch garden that I love, and I'm fairly sure alpine strawberries are just woodland strawberries in a fancy hat, but I really want some hydroponic strawberries for winter harvests. A lot of the tips I've found online have either been for hydroponic standard strawberries or for sprouting alpine strawberries in dirt, but worst of all, hydroponics sprouting article results are absolutely teeming with AI slop that I do not trust at all. Does anyone here have some advice? Do I need to cold stratify them or something?

    Thanks!

     

    This was originally posted by @aramis87@fedia.io on a now-deleted thread on c/AskLemmy entitled "I want to leave some confusing stuff at a friend's house." Thanks to @Rentlar@lemmy.ca for helping me find all of the text again after the post deletion.

    Due to accessibility + the sheer length of the post, I will be simply re-sharing the full story here. Some typos fixed with permission, but text otherwise unaltered.

    A baffling museum theft, and answers that only raise more questions

    Oh. Oh god.

    Okay, so bear with me.

    Many years ago, some friends and I worked at the University Museum of Archeology and Anthropology at University of Pennsylvania. At the time of this story, the museum was undergoing a bunch of renovations. The renovation dust would intermittently get kicked up by the ventilation system or would fall in a clump or whatever, and the movement would set of the security alarms. After a couple months of this, Security became somewhat lax in responding to alarms, because every night there were a number of false alarms.

    So, one early morning, a student is walking to the university and spots something weird sitting in the middle of the pedestrian walkway on the South Street bridge. As they get closer, it starts to look familiar. They get up close and recognize it as the solid silver stand that usually supports the Dowager Empress' crystal ball in the Rotunda of the Museum. This is the first indication that anyone has that the museum was burgled the night before.

    The police are called, the stand goes through evidence collection, everyone traipses over to the Museum, Security (and the museum administration) is shocked. Everyone starts looking around for whatever else might have been taken. Eventually we conclude that only three items are missing: the Dowager Empress' crystal ball, the solid silver stand the ball usually rests on, and a 2500 year old bronze statue of the Egyptian god Osiris. [The ball is gorgeous: it's like the third largest crystal ball in the world, it's absolutely flawless, and John Wanamaker bought it for like $50,000 back in 1920.]

    All three items were taken from either the Rotunda itself or just nearby. This is somewhat confusing, as the Rotunda is all the way toward the back of the Museum, and up a couple staircases. Why wouldn't the thieves grab stuff from a more accessible area instead of crossing almost the entire Museum? Also, the objects are heavy or difficult to carry - why wouldn't they take something smaller, more easily portable, and more valuable - for example, the Tang dynasty horses that are also in the Rotunda and much more valuable?

    Even more confusing is why the thieves decided to ditch the stand for the crystal ball. Presumably they were having problems carrying all three items and decided to leave one behind. Did they drop the four-foot tall 60-pound statue of Osiris? No. Did they leave the 50-pound crystal ball which is very round and can be hard to hold safely? No. They decided to leave behind the 20-pound stand, which has lots of easy finger-holds, is made of solid silver, and is easily meltable into easily-sold unidentifiable metal. It's all just ... very weird.

    Anyway, the police show up. Because of some University association with the state that I can no longer remember, the FBI shows up. There's lots of chaos. And ... nothing happens. The FBI takes the stand into custody for forensic examination, but they can't find any clues. They keep the stand in custody for a couple years in case "something else turns up" but the case goes cold.

    Eventually they return the stand to the Museum. We clean it carefully and, heartbroken, put it into storage. And for a couple more years, nothing happens.

    Then one day, Jes Canby (one of our Museum workers) happens to visit a junk store a few blocks off campus - Jes loves junk stores! As she's wandering around looking at stuff, several aisles over, she sees something and thinks to herself, "Hunh. That kinda looks like the Osiris statue that was stolen from the Museum a few years ago." She gets a couple aisles closer and thinks, "Wow, that really does look like the Osiris statue that got stolen!" She goes over to get a closer look and discovers the Museum accession numbers still on the side of the statue. She calls the police.

    The police show up. The FBI shows up (again). The shop owner is interrogated: Where did you get this statue?! Why, from Al the homeless junk guy, of course. Al wanders around on trash day and pulls out stuff, and the junk store guy buys it from him. Just last week, he paid Al $25 combined for the Osiris statue and an old side table. Does the FBI want the old side table, too? After much examination and consultation, the FBI does not want the old side table.

    And where, they ask, might the FBI find Al the homeless junk guy? I dunno, says the store owner, he's homeless. So the FBI starts searching West Philly for Al.

    Eventually they find him. Where did you get the statue? they ask. "From the curb in front of some house a couple miles away; sometimes they throw away some nice stuff in that neighborhood." They put him in the car and drive around a whole lot until they eventually find the right house (things look different from a car).

    They question the homeowner: Where and how did he get the Osiris statue? "I didn't," he says. "I have a large garage and my family and friends sometimes store things there. I was on vacation in Europe a few years ago, and when I got back, this statue was there. I asked my family and and friends about it and no one knew anything about it.

    "I started clearing out my garage a month or so ago, and asked again and no one still knew anything about the statue, so I gave it to my brother-in-law; he wanted it for a lawn ornament. Except his wife thought it was ugly and made him bring it back. I didn't have any use for it, so I put it out with the trash."

    Oh? asks the FBI real casually. Did anything else happen to show up around the same time?

    A pause while the homeowner thinks. "Oh yeah - there was a crystal ball, too. I gave it to my housekeeper - she's really into all that New Age-y stuff. Where does she live? Oh, somewhere across the river - maybe Trenton, I think?"

    So the FBI gets the housekeeper's info and drives across the river to Trenton and knocks on her door. She truly does have a bunch of New Age-y stuff in her place. They ask her about the crystal ball the homeowner gave her.

    "Oh yes," she says. "You know, I used to keep it in my bedroom, but the light in there was just too strong - it burned a hole in my arm!"

    And where, they ask patiently, is it now?

    "Oh, it's right over there." She points. It's on the coffee table; she's using it as a hatstand.

    Various epilogues:

    The FBI confiscated the crystal ball and the Osiris statue, and re-confiscated the stand, for "forensics analysis". But the staff at the Museum had thoroughly cleaned the stand before putting it into storage, the housekeeper took obsessively good care of the crystal ball, and the Osiris statue had been through too many locations under different conditions and entirely too many hands for anything useful to be found. Eventually, after many years of us asking, they returned the items to the Museum.

    There had been a reward offered for the successful return of the items - maybe $10k or something? The homeowner tried to claim it, but was turned down. I personally think it should have gone to Al the homeless junk guy: he explicitly saved the statue from the trash, his actions are the ones that triggered the whole recovery process, and he's definitely the one who could have benefitted the most. But no :( Eventually they decided to give the money to Jes, who promptly turned around and donated it back to the Museum.

    While the theft shows clear signs of some insider knowledge - that there would likely be no Security response to alarms going off, and that the garage would be open and homeowner away - they never caught the thieves. I personally think the number of people who knew both things would be pretty small, but no one was ever charged.

    The FBI did a bunch of press conferences congratulating themselves on their diligent fieldwork and years-long persistence in recovering the objects - completely ignoring that they'd long since given up and that there would have been no discovery at all if Jes hadn't wandered into that junk store. Years later, one of the FBI guys wrote a book and it turned out these were the guys from the FBI's semi-newly-created Art Crimes Unit, and this was one of their first successful "investigations".

    And, finally: the artifacts have been lovingly cleaned and returned to their display positions at University Museum. If you visit the Museum today and head to the Rotunda, you can see the Dowager Empress Cixi's crystal ball sitting proudly on it's solid silver stand, while the Osiris statue lives just a few yards away.

    Anyway, OP, that's my answer to your question: a stolen, 2500 year old, 60 pound bronze statue of the Egyptian god Osiris. I can guarantee that it will cause much confusion over many years.


     

    Someone on c/asklemmy recently posted a question and then deleted it, as is their prerogative. However, someone on that thread told an amazing anecdote that I had wanted to read again. I even responded to it, but while my own comment is still in my comment history, all I see when I try to view the context is that the post was deleted.

    Is there a way to retrieve the comments on a deleted post? Or is this incredible anecdote about a mysterious museum theft lost to time?

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