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[–] 238 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Dental care being treated as separate from health care.

You can die from teeth issues

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  • [–] 53 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Honestly, just health care in general being locked behind insurance to the point where people conflate the two conceots entirely!

    Dental insurance in most cases is closer to what health insurance should be: an entirely optional, and generally affordable, policy that can offset major expenses. Not an expense that rivals housing in magnitude and is required for most people just to access the basic care needed by nearly everyone.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Or maybe we do away with the insurance all together and treat medical care as the public service it should be yeah?

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago*

    Just taking this opportunity to remind Americans that you already pay a far higher portion of the public purse into your healthcare system than any nation with universal care. You get basically nothing for it while we get cradle to grave coverage for every citizen regardless of our socioeconomic status.

    Then on top of these taxes you are also paying private insurers for the privilege of then paying your doctors

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  • [+] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)
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    A lot of people don't take these things in to account. Due to health issues I have slowly lost my teeth over the past 15 years. Due to poverty and systemic problems I couldn't get them fixed. Now I'm in my 40s and left with barely enough teeth to chew - no molars, and my face is shifting because it doesn't have the support structure anymore, which puts painful pressure on my remaining teeth all the time. Technically my health benefits say they pay for dentures but it's been nothing but a run around, months and months of waiting for paperwork to be mailed and just utter nonsense while I'm here with a handful of teeth and I'm scared to talk to people or make friends because as soon as people see my teeth the judge me and leave.

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  • [–] -1 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    This makes perfect sense from the supply side. Very few (younger) people need expensive medical care, so we can pool the risk. Almost everyone needs some, regular dental care, so it's more like a savings account than insurance. I'm not claiming that the insurance systems in any given country aren't exploitative, just that medical and dental insurance should be different.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    Or maybe we stop treating everything as a money printing thing and instead as taking care of the population around us? The money is there, we just need to stop bombing girl's schools in Iran or building a golden shrine to Fuhrer Trump.

    We shouldn't have fucking health insurance or dental insurance period.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    I mean, I agree with the first part fully, but I think what you mean is that we shouldn't have for-profit corporate run insurance.

    Any socialised health care is a form of insurance---a way for us to pool the risk of large bad events, so that everyone (or a lot of people) pays a little so that a few people aren't totally destroyed by the catastrophe. The alternative to having insurance is that we let people die when rare but really bad things happen. We absolutely should have insurance, but we should all share the cost equally, or the rich should pay more, rather than a few people massively profiting from running the enterprise.

    But, however we run it, we'll need to treat dental differently from medical because of what I said in my first comment

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    No forget insurance altogether. Socialized health care is absolutely not a form of insurance. That's not what any of those words mean.

    You might be thinking of single payer healthcare but that's not what I'm arguing for. It feels like you've got a very high school level understanding of words and are trying to discuss concepts without understanding the distinction and mashing things together. Just because things might have a few overlapping points doesn't make them the same thing. That's not how language works.

    A government run system, of which only two exist that I know of, the NHS and IHS (Indian healthcare system for native Americans), are not insurance. They aren't a pooling of risk, they're a taxpayer paid service. It's a complete flip from what insurance is. Just because they have to pool taxpayer money to fund it does not make it insurance.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    What?

    Government funded and administered health care systems being a form of risk pooling and insurance are not controversial ideas. These are standard definitions.

    I'm not sure where you're getting these ideas. Why would taxpayer paid services not be a form of risk pooling? There are hundreds of countries around the world with government run health systems, or government funded and privately run systems, or private-public partnerships in various forms. Pooling taxpayer money to fund health care for those individuals unlucky enough to need it absolutely does make it insurance.

    I recommend reading the Wikipedia pages on "universal health care" and "health insurance" if you'd like to start learning about these topics.

    I'm an academic statistician who discusses risk and related concepts with experts every day...

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    And I do data analysis for a hospital chain (spent time today figuring out what percent of people in our hospital system are underinsured in different risk categories such as tobacco cigarette smokers and such). Your point about being a statistician means nothing.

    So you can calculate p-values big whoop. You're absolutely not using terms the way the average person does in my day to day in industry and conflating them. I've been all over those Wikipedia pages plenty.

    Try again.

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  • [–] 162 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

    Privatization of government institutions and programs.

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  • [–] 51 points 6 months ago

    Seriously this. The success of a public service shouldn't be how much revenue is generated or shareholder value is gained. We as a society are the shareholders and deserve infrastructure that works for us. Corporations have pushed the idea that lower taxes is better, but when you have to spend more to a company to get basic necessities, you're not really coming out on top buddy.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Regan really did a number on the US. Broad privatization of public services, with all the wrong incentives in place. Which was then a vicious cycle of people hating their experience with public services -> politicians cut their funding -> service gets worse -> people hate their experience -> repeat until all your taxes have been siphoned to private entities and your govt is in shambles.

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  • [–] 75 points 6 months ago (12 children)

    I moved to Chicago a few years. I go to rent an apartment. It has a "move-in" fee.

    I'm like what's that.

    Oh it's $500 that you don't get back.

    I say. What about the deposit? They say. Oh yeah we don't require that. Isn't that great ,?

    I'm like. So move in fee is my deposit but it's just guaranteed I won't get it back.

    Them: well it's different. It's a move in fee. We don't require a deposit but if you don't clean out the apartment to this list of specifications, we will charge you per item you miss.

    Example. Refrigerator not cleaned :$150 Floors not clean : $200

    Etc.

    So I was super unhappy about this and complained to anyone who would listen. To which my new Chicago neighbors and friends were like "that's how it's always been here,"

    Bro. Y'all getting fucked. Hard. Non refundable deposit where you still have to clean out the old apartment.

    Wtf. Should be illegal.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    What the fuck? So it's just a deposit you're garuanteed to not get back? What if you don't "miss" anything when cleaning up? You're not getting your money back anyway so why clean anything when you're moving out?

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Yeah there was a whole list of things and the fine for not cleaning the items. So you had to make sure you got it super clean or you would get all the fines.

    Of which amounted to something close to $1000.

    I spent 2 days cleaning it when I moved out to make sure I didn't get any of the fines.

    You can basically get black listed as a renter if you don't clean well.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    A "move in" fee is not a deposit. It's more like a goodwill payment, or you could call it a front pocket fee, even if there's nobody else in queue. Obviously whoever is willing to pay the most gets the first choice.

    It's shady as fuck and also illegal where I live, but people still pay it instead of risking not getting the apartment. Sadly, nobody cares enough to take these scumbags to court over it. You can choose not to pay it but then you just don't get the apartment, and if so, why'd you want to waste your time and money on a lawyer, when there's nothing to win from doing so.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (7 children)

    that's why you stiff em the last month's rent

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    At least in Chicago, many landlords require references from past landlords when you are applying for a new apartment, so flaking on rent or trashing a place before moving out can doom your future endeavors.

    Unless you get lucky and find a private owner to rent from that doesn't bother with checking backgrounds.

    Then you just have to deal with them taking ages to repair anything and letting themselves into your apartment unannounced to 'check on things'.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    In my experience the private landlords are the ones who actually fix shit. Last corp landlord I had lost a civil suit for 20 million in Cambridge mass for not maintaining the property.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    It's very hit or miss. Not all landlords are good or bad.

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  • [–] 57 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Everything about cars from manufacturing, sales, insurance, repair, registration and taxes. We could just have Public transportation.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago

    The car is a tool to move yourself and your family/friends from place A to place B. But James Bond, Batman, rap videos made a status symbol of it. They created a modern mythology around it.

    The transformation of the automobile from a means of transport into a luminous totem of status is a near-perfect case study of what Pierre Bourdieu theorised as the conversion and misrecognition of capital.

    Bourdieu argued that capital presents itself in three fundamental guises: economic capital (money, assets), cultural capital (knowledge, taste, credentials), and social capital (networks, group membership). These are not static silos; they are constantly converted into one another to legitimise and reproduce social hierarchies. The car, in its purest state, is merely objectified economic capital, a purchased good with a clear use-value: to move from A to B. But the moment it enters the cultural field, it is inscribed with meaning, and it becomes a vehicle for symbolic capital, which Bourdieu defined as the form the other capitals take when they are perceived and recognised as legitimate.

    https://archive.org/stream/bourdieu-the-forms-of-capital-1/Bourdieu%20The%20Forms%20of%20Capital-1_djvu.txt

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  • [–] 56 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Ending a price in .99 so you think it is a whole dollar less.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I honestly don't understand that, I have always rounded up for money going out and down for money coming in. So if I see something priced at $3.25 my brain thinks $4, and if I earn $3.25 my brain thinks $3 dollars.

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  • [–] 56 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    Recycling being the responsibility of the consumer

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  • [–] 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    And recycling most plastics. End up in a landfill because its cheaper than actually recycling them.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I think it is often simply burned to generate heat/electricity

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

    This. I have opinions on waste management, please indulge a little rant, if you will?

    In my city they also now have us pay for the privilege of dumping residual waste. It's worth noting that residual residential waste is stuffed into a silo - the users bring it to a collection point, and open it with an RFID key card. You're sent a bill for each time this is opened.

    It's also worth noting that the plastic bin, if it looks like they can't sort it, they will toss it in general waste.

    These factors combine into a situation where:

    • Tossing things in the recycling bin has it end up in gen waste anyway
    • It's cheaper for the end user to dump their residual waste inappropriately, either by stuffing it into recycling despite not going there, or by dumping it in the bushes somewhere

    Imo, fixes would include the following:

    • At the very least, using the general waste silo should not come with extra costs
    • Recyclables and residual waste should be merged into a single waste flow, which is to be recycled in general.
    • We should make work of actual plastic recycling at a commercial scale.
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  • [–] 56 points 6 months ago (5 children)

    college textbooks. have to have the latest edition for class, but almost nothing is different from the two-years-old one.

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  • [–] 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    I once had a professor who gave assignments with the last several editions page numbers because he thought it was bullshit too.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago*

    in roughly half of my classes; my professors were the authors of the of the books that they were selling so they made photocopies of them to distribute to the student for free.

    it was one of two benefits to attending the largest university in the country (at the time).

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    For my classes, anything that was graded was not done from the textbook it was either online questions or from a worksheet. Any work given from the textbook was just for our practice and not graded. They'd usually just call out sections of questions based on that day's lesson.

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  • [–] 110 points 6 months ago

    Two party politics

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  • [–] 52 points 6 months ago

    Subscriptions for everything. Especially hardware.

    I already hate my always-online, have to use their shit app robot vacuum that gets worse after each update. I can't imagine buying a new, overpriced car these days and having it do all the same shit.

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  • [–] 50 points 6 months ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 40 points 6 months ago

    Health insurance

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  • [–] 39 points 6 months ago

    Paying for education that "the market" wants us to have so they can have a larger pool of skilled workers, leading to lower salaries

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  • [–] 112 points 6 months ago (6 children)
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    Insurance is nothing but a legal protection racket. The only difference is when you lapse on your protection money, the insurers don't go and blow your kneecaps out, although United Health has effectively killed people who lapsed on payments before or denied them potentially life-saving drugs.

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  • [–] 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago* (2 children)

    Does that mean you don't buy insurance or are you paying someone to intentionally scam you?

    It is strange that you don't have an option to choose a insurance company who are not scammers. I mean, that no one thought of starting an insurance company which promotes self on actually helping their customers.

    There are companies outside US who are not scamming people and still are profitable.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Outside of the US here: nearly every insurance company in Belgium (that are coincidently also the banks) are 100% scamming people and literally make their entire business model off of ripping people off as much as possible.

    Using any and every excuse to deny people the insurance they paid for when they have legitimate claims is literally how they are "profitable."

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    We have quite a lot of public stats on the insurance companies in Denmark. You can see how many formal complaints a company have received, I.e. customers who have made a complaint a decision made by the insurance company, how many of these complaints have been in favor of the insurance company or the customer, which types of insurances each company gets most complaints about, etc. So there is a lot of data that allows you to make a informed decision about which insurance company you want to choose.

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  • [–] 37 points 6 months ago

    Bottled water.

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    Show me a working alternative that’s actually been implemented in the real and I’ll happily shift.

    Until then I’ll happily stick with a well-regulated, Nordic-style market economy.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    What you described is literally a working alternative to capitalism. Nobody said it cannot contain any capitalistic elements.

    As for a further alternative - how about even more social programs? We all know the countries could easily afford it, so that's an easy step forward.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Zapatista territories and Rojava (until recently dissolved by force), and a bunch of smaller examples worldwide (including many tribes that live more traditionally/non-capitalist).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    They are definitely proof that alternatives exist. Whether they can scale to governing a state of disperate cultures and peoples is a different question.

    But you did answer with some real alternatives, which I’ll look into more. Thank you.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Working harder instead of prioritizing.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Some places are worse for this than others. London, for example, chews up 20-somethings in shitty accommodation, underpaid jobs and plenty of places to spend the few pennies you’ve got left. Eventually, 95% leave the city to actually build a life after they’ve realised that London will never deliver a suitable lifestyle for them.

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  • [–] 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Are people still out there buying new ink cartridges every time they need to print something? I was sick of that s*** in 2019 and returned my printer to Costco and I'm never buying another printer again.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I just bought a laser printer. Toner never goes bad and it prints faster and better than ink

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    You just bought it? Well I've got news for you. It's going to start nagging you about ink cartridges in a couple months. Yes even laser printers do this. I thought just like you when I bought a laser printer that I had escaped the ink cartridge nightmare. Nope.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago

    β€œYour laser printer, which doesn’t use ink, will nag you about buying ink” is a wild sentence.

    You must use Windows and bought an HP laser jet, cause I don’t have that problem. Linux + that Brother laser printer everyone has = tech that isn’t garbage.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    What should just be a little plastic box containing ink has a tiny computer inside to prove to the printer it's not counterfeit. All so that the manufacture can have their give-the-razor-for-free-sell-the-blades business model, enforced by the anti-circumvention part of copyright law.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    Just a polite reminder that if you only need to print a few papers, it's probably cheaper/easier/free to use the printer at local library! Mine does it for like 15 cents a paper, or for free if you have your own paper! Much less hassle than buying a good printer, sorting the ink situation and then fighting with that machine..

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  • [–] 87 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

    The real estate market. In many countries, the value of labor and materials necessary to build a house is about 30 to 40 40 to 120 thousand euros. Everything else is speculation.

    Edit. Initially I put 30 to 40 thousand euros.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    It's not only speculation, it's also because some locations are a lot more wanted by many people to live there: right next to a big park, walkable neighbourhood, city amenities nearby but few city problems, no highway audible when sleeping with open window et cetera et cetera. More people want to live in prime locations than prime location housing is available.

    The big scam are the insane prices for run down shoebox-apartments in shitty locations.

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  • [–] 30 points 6 months ago

    Private insurance companies

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    Free market capitalism

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    Depends on the country I believe. I've got a refund for my sixth eye surgery a couple of months ago thanks to my insurance.

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