All of the Canadian youtubers that I watch pronounce the letter z as "zi", as is done in the United States. However, I have read online that it is more common for Canadians to pronounce it as "zed", as is done in the United Kingdom. Is this a regional thing? How do you pronounce the letter z?

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[–] 50 points 6 months ago* (6 children)

Like many things, it depends. I'm curious about the context where you're actually hearing YouTubers say the letter.

It's usually "zed" and we're taught it as "zed" in school - at least when i was a kid.

If I'm spelling something it is Zed. I don't think I've ever said Zee in that context.

The alphabet ends with Zee when singing it, due to the rhyme with Vee (and probably Sesame Street).

In my head I will say Nissan Zee for a Z type car. Though if I was to speak the phrase "Nissan Z type" I would say Zed.

When it is used in online slang (GG EZ) it is "Zee" for "easy".

ZZ Top is Zee Zee Top. Zorro draws a Zed. Things are Zed-shaped, not Zee-shaped in general.

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    Another common one for me that I didn't even notice for a while was Gen-Z, which I will always say "jenzi". Zed sounds unacceptable there, even though I say zed in most other cases besides those you've outlined.

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  • [–] 36 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    We are now, no longer the Canadians who say β€˜zi’.

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  • [–] 29 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    I am Canadian I say Zed. Plus it’s fun to watch americans lose it when I say Zed Zed Top (heehee).

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    clears throat

    why why zee

    leaves promptly

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    Omg, I actually do think and say it this way. Why Why Zed sounds wrong :(

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  • [–] 20 points 6 months ago*

    Zed. Grew up in Ottawa, since lived in Montreal a long time. French also says zed.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Zed. Zee is horrible.

    Stand proud, Embrace Zed.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    both, and i never bother to correct myself, or give it any consideration.

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  • [–] 18 points 6 months ago

    It's also zed in French, fwiw

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    Technically it is. The Japanese pronunciation would say "Zetto" as a close approximation of "Zed".

    But the English dub was done for a US audience (despite the fact that the original English dub was recorded in Canada), so they deferred to the American pronunciation of Z.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    This could also be the reason Canadian YouTubers would say zee - why alienate 90% of your market, and Canadians are still used to hearing it from American media.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    also be the reason Canadian YouTubers would say zee - why alienate 90% of your market

    I doubt it's any fear of alienating them.

    It is likely more the result of those youtubers growing up immersed in American media exports.

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  • [–] 17 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Zed is the proper Canadian way to say it. Those people just probably watch a lot of American content so it stuck for them.

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    This Canadian youtuber doesn't.

    I'm Canadian, and I pronounce things the proper Canadian way.

    When mentioning measurements or temperature, I use metric, and if I also happen to translate to imperial, I joke that it is a courtesy translation for the 3 countries in the world still stuck in the obsolete units.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    That makes sense. I assume it's that, as well as perhaps consuming a lot of American media. I've noticed a lot of non-Americans sometimes using USD.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    consuming a lot of American media.

    They export American exceptionalism as a default attitude.

    And, after a century or more, it has taken hold far more than it has any right to.

    I hope the increasing boycott of all things American that Trump has caused will start to reverse somehow that. But it will take a long time to undo - that shit is pervasive.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago*

    As a mumbling Canadian, I always say Zed to avoid confusion with the letter C.

    In my experience, I find it's usually g/z that tends to get the most easily confused when pronouncing as "zee," guessing because both are voiced consonants. One of those cases where I have to request phonetic alphabet spelling if call/chat quality is too low to tell.

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  • [–] 14 points 6 months ago

    It'll always be zedzedtop.

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  • [–] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Zed if I refer to the letter itself, but if it's part of a phrase, like "Gen Zee" etc. I will use that.

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  • [–] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    I have this nasty habit of correcting people when they say Zee when it is obviously Zed.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago

    Zed ad absurdum.

    E-zed sharpener. Eee Zed Money. That sort of thing.

    Drives everyone crazy, especially if it's a Canadian or Commonwealth product.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    Born and raised in the USA, only took a few months of living in Canada to switch to zed.

    Also, never seen it spelt "zi" ever, lol.

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  • [–] 9 points 6 months ago

    I say zed. My kids all say zee, to my chagrin. Thanks, US children's entertainment.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago*

    zed of course.

    Don't argue with Meredith Rodney McKay.

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  • [–] 8 points 6 months ago

    I used to not care about this at all, but recently I am adamant about using zed. Similarly, I go out of my way to use the non-American spelling for any words that have it.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    It's a Camaro "Zed" 28

    But the alphabet it's X, Y, "Zee"

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 child)

    Nah, you can't fuck up the rhyming in the alphabet song

    Edit: you can downvote all you want, the fact is that if you end the alphabet song with "Zed" you have to finish the rest as "next time won't you give me head" and that's just wrong

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    β€œZee’s dead, baby. Zee’s dead.”

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    US peanut gallery but I did not even know about the zed pronunciation thing until stargate atlantis. It was so confusing. Why does that guy say zpm and that guy say zedpm???

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    I seem to alternate depending on context. Never really noticed until thinking back on it.

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    As far as I can remember I was taught in school to say it as 'zee'. But that was in secondary language classes and that was a long time ago... We definitely say it as 'zed' in French though.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (6 children)

    American here who always thought "Zed" was used for zero. Now I'm wondering if I ever made an ass of myself misinterpreting someone.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (5 children)

    As a Canadian, I have never heard anyone refer to zero as zed. I guess in theory if I was reading out a label or something that specifically had a "Z" to signify zero I would say zed, but that's because I'm saying the letter rather than because I'm saying zero, but I can't think of any time when someone would label something as "Z" to mean zero when they could just do "0", so I don't think that's common.

    Sorry bud.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago* (4 children)

    It's my understanding that Zed is used in England and possibly Australia for zero. I never knew Canadians used the word at all - let alone for a different meaning - until now.

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  • [–] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Are you sure you're not thinking of "naught"? I'll admit I don't know that Brits don't use "Zed" for zero, but I've never heard it from any British YouTuber I've watched, including maths YouTubers, nor any British TV I've watched. But it's possible one of their dialects uses it maybe?

    All the ones I've heard say naught though.

    For completeness I'll say Canadians typically don't say naught unless they're British themselves, we say zero.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I just did some searching, and cannot confirm what I thought was true. I've no idea where I picked it up because I've thought that was the case for decades now. Man, do I feel clueless. Sorry for the confusion. TIL.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    No worries! Those are some of my favourites: a long held belief with no basis in reality. It could be something you misinterpreted once and got locked away as a fact, or something an uncle or something could have said, and they were wrong. I've had a few of those myself where I'm like "where the hell did I even get that from..." πŸ˜›

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago

    I'm not Canadian, but grew up on the border and only got Canadian television stations for years. As a result, I regularly change back and forth between zee and zed.

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  • [–] 4 points 6 months ago

    I have not yet encountered a Canadian who says "zi" the way I do. I've worked at schools here with ages from 12 to 22 and all of the students have said "zed" as well as every teacher and co-workers I've had.

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    Zed, unless its part of a person/product name where its specifically Zee, like Jay-Zee. Otherwise, it's Gen Zed.

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    It's like "zed" of course, because I'm > 30 years old. I don't think it's a regional thing, more of a "zoomer" thing maybe?

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago

    Zed.

    Dunno who decided zee was a thing, but they were wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

    Wait, do you pronounce "zi" like "zih" or like "zie"

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    for my family, it’s very much Zed. jay zed, zed zed top,

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  • [–] 2 points 6 months ago

    For the letter or spelling something out, I'll always say "zed." I think for the most part I only say "zee" if I'm using acronyms that are either specific to US organizations or that both originated there and are still considered to be tightly associated with that country (like if I need to refer to some product from a US company, though none come to mind at the moment).

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    To your question, I have a similar one... Do Canadians say tom"ay"to or tom"ah"to? πŸ…

    What about potato?

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago

    I spell my name with a zed not a zi. From Sask

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (3 children)

    At the risk of being unpopular, I say zee. I've been corrected so many times by my friends, but I spent a lot of time in the US and it just stuck. Plus, the alphabet song specifically says zee, and I'm not arguing with that.

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