Yes, Microsoft apps can cause a problem even in space.

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[–] 191 points 7 months ago (20 children)

Why in the everliving fuck would NASA put ANYTHING Microsoft into a spacecraft?

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  • [–] 21 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    The entire craft is built by giant US legacy corporations. Boeing, Lockheed, Northrop, etc. Microsoft is just one more in the pile.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

    Your laptop is built by "legacy corporations, " but if you put Linux on it, it works better.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (4 children)

    I'm going to sound super stupid but w/e.

    What happens to all your files when you install Linux?

    It's just basically a GUI, right so does Linux create its own space and ignore what's there?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago

    All operating systems we tend to use have filesystems. A filesystem is a methodology for writing data in a way that the OS can read. Windows included.

    When you install a new OS, such as linux, you must choose how to allocate your disk space. You can use the whole disk - which would format and rewrite the system to be compatible with the flavor of linux you chose - or you can reallocate space on the drive if you have enough. This will move around the available free space, create the filesystem I just mentioned on that free space you designated, and leave your old windows files intact.

    You can now interact with these from the Linux side with the right commands (mounting the windows partition and gaining access). You could even "dual boot," which would allow you to choose which OS you want to go to at startup.

    I've HIGHLY simplified this since it's just a quick explanation, but that's the gist of it. There are obviously more scenarios, pitfalls, etc.

    When I was first starting out in like 1996 or 1997, I was running FreeBSD 2.2.2. I accidentally wiped my system so many times that I stopped caring what got lost. It took me a while before I understood what the hell I was doing. Poring over man pages and instructions to figure it out.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Windows and Linux are like an operators in a warehouse. Windows knows some ways to store stuff and keep track of what is stores, Linux knows some ways too. Sometimes the way they store stuff overlaps, sometimes it doesn't. If you put Linux into a warehouse that Windows operated, by default, Linux will be able to find boxes and stuff, but the Windows operator has some small tricks up their sleeve to make it harder to put things back at the right place, remove boxes, or add new ones, and of course Windows has kept it a secret.

    If you want to find all your boxes in a Windows warehouse and continue using the warehouse without being afraid of squishing a small box with a big one because the piece of paper Windows uses has some secret handwriting that was misinterpreted for "there's no box here", it's better to take out all the boxes, let Linux setup it's storage system, and then put the boxes back in.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I sometimes wonder if the Microsoft haters are in a bubble or if people who remember just how fucked up Microsoft was are just starting to age out at this point. I would like to think that Anyone who follows security related news and current tech news are also aware just how shit Microsoft is (and always was), but again, I migjt be very biased lol

    Me, and the rest of the member of the various unix enthusit groups I belong to, would never ever ever want anything to do with Microsoft unless we are forced to use it for some stupid reason.

    For all we know, there might have been one person high up in the chain of command that is not aware just how fucking bad Microsoft is.

    I have a feeling a lot of people will be asking NASA a lot of questions about it, now that there is a huge spotlight on it.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    I have a foot on both sides of the fence. I work with MS products for a living, doing all sorts of stuff with AD - ask me specifics if you actually want to know - but I run Linux at home. Arch on my laptop, a variant on my NAS, a very scaled down one thing on a terminal, and I started my whole computer world on FreeBSD 2.2.2 back in 1997.

    People in NASA who do real work know. They're like everyone else. They just don't have clout. So, if a C-level dipshit says "We're using Outlook on the space ship," that's that.

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  • [–] 145 points 7 months ago

    Space Force TV show continues to fulfill the prophecy.

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  • [–] 109 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    If only there were low-bandwidth, straight-forward, well tested email clients.....

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  • [–] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    low-bandwidth,

    They're on a 600Mbps connection, bandwidth isn't the problem.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Bro what do you mean the moon mission has faster internet than me? 😭

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  • [–] 108 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    "NASA says they'll remotely connect to the computer to see what the problem is."

    'Hello, this is your NASA certified Microsoft certied tech support, you need to send us gift cards to unblock your computer"

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  • [–] 70 points 7 months ago

    Also known as "nominal outlook performance"

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  • [–] 56 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    It seems you have problems with running your multi billion dollar rocket. Would you like me to help you with that?

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  • [–] 50 points 7 months ago*

    The rare occasion when "It's not rocket science!" means it's harder.

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    [–] 56 points 7 months ago (4 children)

    Imagine being literally off the planet and still be expected to check your work email.

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  • [–] 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Gotta submit their timesheets.

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  • [–] 25 points 7 months ago

    Wtf do they need email for in space

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Why would you not use internal NASA programmed software? Oh wait, we're beyond that now, we just ask Claude to vomit up a mess from its exabytes of source code and vibe our way to the Moon!!!

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  • This is just… so perfectly emblematic of where we are as a society.

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  • [–] 49 points 7 months ago (11 children)

    You would think that the absolute basic, minimum requirement for taking something on a space mission is that it complies with open standards.

    If you have standards compliant programs, it's easy to set up a back-up client in case the primary doesn't work. If your email is "Outlook" and you are tied to the outlook server and something breaks, there's your single point of failure. Sucks to be you.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (10 children)

    What if the problem is server side

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    That's impossible. They don't even have that in space.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Why not? Friggin' surrounded by internet satellites up there, their ping times must be in the minuses

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  • [–] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    They say Microslop CoPilot is already on the case.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Let this be a lesson about putting windows OS on space equipment.

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  • [–] 10 points 7 months ago

    See? They're just like us!

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  • [–] 19 points 7 months ago

    Who the f permits taking unverified software on a space trip?

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  • [–] 9 points 7 months ago

    Microsoft has always been questionable at best but ever since Steve Ballmer left, is been incredibly shit.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    Microsoft, because sucking only on one planet isn't enough..

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    The Apollo 13 movie sequel will be wild...

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Trying to imagine Jim Lovell's reaction when Apollo 13 blue-screens and has to reboot. What an amateurish shitshow NASA has become.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    "Id love to, you know, land on the moon, but unfortunately it can't verify my license with the server so most of the functionality is locked out. Did you guys forget to pay the sub again this month?"

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    screw outlook? WTF where is thunderbird when you need it.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    Have they tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    embarrassing.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I never would have thought that astronauts could be so relatable.

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Shoulda installed Thunderbird

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Don't worry, the Microsoft spyware telemetry will tell them what went wrong.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago

    What a surprise. Microslop

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I give them a 45% chance of coming back

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    Maybe someone should introduce them to PINE and SMTP and MIME.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    They need to open the event viewer now, which takes 2 minutes.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago

    So they're not only using Microslop in offices, but also on space missions...? Gee, I wonder why they've been failing to return to the Moon for 50 years...

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    ... it would be pretty funny magnificent if the engineers would (have to) talk them through how to deMicroSlop themselves & install foss OS & foss apps.
    They have more than enough time.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    I miss BlackBerry

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  • [–] 4 points 7 months ago

    Having a hardware solution to a problem doesn't mean you had a hardware problem. You might have had a software problem that could be solved with hardware.

    Basic example: I had an issue with the controls in a game, where I kept accidentally pressing the Windows key which swapped me to a different view. I'd say having the OS swap programs is a software problem.

    My solution was to remove that keycap so I'd stop pressing it. The "proper" solution was some esoteric key press combination that disabled the Windows key.

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