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[–] 209 points 8 months ago* (50 children)

Man, I really hate being on the Axis side. I hope we lose.

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  • [–] 116 points 8 months ago (26 children)

    We already lost. Trump got bullied/suckered by Israel into this mess without a clearly defined American win scenario. Israel has one and they are getting it. The US does not, because Trump is weak and catastrophically dumb, ignorant, narcissistic, and incompetent.

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  • [–] 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

    We... we lost two THAAD radar arrays, already.

    https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/irgc-destroys-second-us-thaad-system-uae-radar-qatar-early-warning-iran-missile-dominance/

    We... can't intercept too many missiles without those.

    They're like $1.5 billion USD each, roughly adjusted for inflation.

    And... I think there were only like, 12 of these things, total. Anywhere. As of a week ago.

    We reportedly have been trying to take away the one we use in South Korea, to redeploy it.

    This is ... beyond completely tits up.

    Trump is saying the US Navy will just escort any willing vessel through the Strait of Hormuz.

    And... what, we're gonna use all our fleet defensive systems, to .... shoot down the missiles that Iran can build 10x faster than we can build interceptors?

    Taiwan is now completely fucked, if anyone hasn't figured that out yet, we will now almost certainly not have enough missiles to repel an invasion from the PLAN and PLAAF.

    This is... extremely bad situation, if you are generally a fan of yourself and other people not dieing a violent death.

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  • [–] 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    They're moving at least one from S Korea to replace one of the destroyed ones. Hopefully it gets blown up too.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Double post, but...

    Its confirmed.

    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260310/us-moving-parts-of-thaad-anti-missile-system-from-s-korea-to-middle-east-report

    The United States has been moving parts of its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) anti-missile system from South Korea to the Middle East, the Washington Post reported, citing two officials.

    The reported movement of parts of a THAAD missile defense system comes amid media reports that the U.S. military stationed in South Korea has shipped out some of its military assets amid an intensifying war in the Middle East.

    "The Pentagon is moving parts of a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system from South Korea to the Middle East," the report said.

    https://www.chosun.com/english/world-en/2026/03/10/MSS6VLC4ARGEZPD6W7NJNFJ344/

    The United States, engaged in a war with Iran, has begun relocating part of its Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) system deployed in South Korea to the Middle East, the Washington Post (WP) reported on the 9th (local time), citing two U.S. Department of Defense officials.

    The South Korean THAAD system appears to be being at least partially dismantled and redeployed.

    ... against the wishes of South Korea.

    https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/defense/20260310/s-korea-regrets-transfer-of-usfk-air-defense-assets-to-middle-east-lee-says

    The Korean government has expressed its opposition to the transfer of some U.S. Forces Korea (USFK) air defense weapons to the Middle East, President Lee Jae Myung said Tuesday, but stressed that the move will not weaken the country’s deterrence against North Korea.

    Speaking at the beginning of a Cabinet meeting in Cheong Wa Dae, Lee addressed the growing debate over reports that some U.S. air defense batteries stationed in Korea have been transferred abroad.

    “We have expressed opposition to USFK transferring some air defense weapons according to its own military needs, but it is also the reality that we cannot fully enforce our position,” the president said.

    “If you ask whether this creates serious obstacles for our deterrence strategy against North Korea, I can say with certainty that it does not,” he said.

    I mean uh, pressing X to Doubt on that last part, obviously you would say "Don't worry, everything is fine," ... but yeah, we, the US, appear to be using the South Korean system for parts, and SK President Lee says he can't stop us from doing so.


    Meanwhile, Trump is utterly losing his shit, and in, what, less than two weeks?, has gone from 'we are going to let Iran liberate itself' to 'we will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back as a nation'.

    https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116202054617775180

    If Iran does anything that stops the flow of Oil within the Strait of Hormuz, they will be hit by the United States of America TWENTY TIMES HARDER than they have been hit thus far. Additionally, we will take out easily destroyable targets that will make it virtually impossible for Iran to ever be built back, as a Nation, again — Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen! This is a gift from the United States of America to China, and all of those Nations that heavily use the Hormuz Strait. Hopefully, it is a gesture that will be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP

    ... back when Trump did Midnight Hammer, the strike against the nuclear sites in Iran, I compared him to Kefka... evil whiny clown.

    Death, Fire, and Fury will reign upon them — But I hope, and pray, that it does not happen!

    This is completely insane. This is the logic of an abusive husband, but directly applied to 10s of millions of people, applied by a man with hundreds to thousands of nuclear weapons.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/us-military-operates-e-6b-mercury-mission-to-maintain-nuclear-triad-communications-during-emergencies/ar-AA1XNCv9

    Flight trackers detected the Boeing E-6B Mercury, a U.S. aircraft used for nuclear command and control, flying over the Gulf of Mexico on March 9, 2026. The military uses the aircraft, often called a “doomsday plane,” as an airborne backup command center if ground systems fail. Observers often interpret its appearance on public flight trackers as a signal that the U.S. nuclear deterrent remains active.

    ...

    Its main purpose is to send secure messages to submarines carrying ballistic missiles. Communicating with submarines is difficult because they operate deep under the ocean, where normal radio signals cannot easily travel through seawater.

    ... To overcome this challenge, the E-6B Mercury uses very low frequency radio signals that can reach submarines while they remain submerged. The aircraft deploys long trailing wire antennas during flight to transmit these signals. This system ensures submarines remain connected to command authorities and continue to serve as a highly survivable part of the nuclear deterrent.

    https://www.wionews.com/world/trump-deploys-doomsday-nuclear-command-planes-to-west-asia-amid-ww3-fears-1773071562944

    Flight-tracking data has captured multiple launches of the Navy's E-6B Mercury strategic airborne command aircraft since the war in Iran began, the Daily Mail reported.

    Two E-6B Mercury flights were spotted over the US on March 2, one travelling from the Gulf Coast and landing at Naval Air Station Patuxent River in Maryland, and the other taking off and later landing back at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, according to the Daily Mail.

    Since those flights, there have been reports from military news outlets of more E-6B launches heading across the Atlantic to the Persian Gulf.


    If we do not stop this demented idiot and his regime, we will responsible for destroying the world as we know it.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They're not only squandering their position as a global leader and the good will of our allies, but the military might and defensive capabilities too.

    They're literally going to make the continental US vulnerable to attack by wasting so many resources in this pointless war of aggression.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Being in Canada, I'm feeling so much relief now. My fear of dying soon isn't entirely gone, but I'm feeling more hopeful.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    How does Taiwan fit into all of this?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    When the world police run out of resources, they're unable to police the world anymore and others who have smartly withheld resources will move in on coveted targets.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    its also giving china big looks at the US's current weaknesses with their huge toys that cant account for millions of flying toy planes with grenades self guiding themselves into them. US was built on big power projection but it is expensive as shit and the rapist pissed off of their allies. China could do a lot of damage, whether that is enough to take taiwan 🤷‍♂️ but it would be expensive as hell and be a lot more things for new coral reefs to build from

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  • Shock and awe is the terminology on how the USA military works. Dazzle them with military might in hopes they surrender early because long term we may not have the troops for it. Though I wouldn't be surprised to see conscription in the USA from the concentration camps.

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  • [+] 42 points 8 months ago (8 children)
  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    If Israel is around in 100 years I'll eat my shorts. They're speedrunning being turned into a crater

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Israel's nuclear doctrine is the Samson Doctrine.

    Basically, if they get nuked... they nuke Moscow, European capitals, anyone and everyone they can reach.

    So.... yeah...

    Its literally 'kill everyone'.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    So, basically what Iran does now, but with nukes?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Well, the difference being that the Iranian strategy is to attack things that can attack them, or people they care about.

    And obviously it is non nuclear.

    If Iran does have any 'nuclear' capacity, it would be dirty bombs, not.... actual, proper, thermonuclear bombs/warheads.

    The Israel strategy is to intentionally take out friend, foe, in between, with full-on thermonuclear weapons, to simply maximize chaos and maximize the chance of basically secondary retaliatory nuclear strikes against as many other targets as possible.

    Goad the world into destroying itself, get other people to do most of the work for them.

    ... See how that's kind of a recurring pattern?


    If you are unfamiliar with the story of Samson from the Old Testament / Torah:

    Samson, a supernaturally strong warrior, is captured by the Philistines, his magic hair that gives him superhuman strength is shorn off, his eyes are put out.

    But, in his despair, he repents his sins, and God gives him his supernatural strength back.

    Samson, while being paraded and mocked in the Philistine royal court, finds the support beams to the whole building, and shakes them so hard that the entire building collapses, killing himself and everyone else in the Philistine royal court.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Some are saying that this is a brilliant tactic by Trump. They took Venezuela, where China gets much of their oil, and now we've blocked Hormuz, where China gets the rest of its oil. They think this will crush China.

    But China still has about a 100 day reserve. When that runs out, they will do something to get leverage for more oil - like take Taiwan. They need the oil, we need the chips. We've always worried about them taking Taiwan, and now Trump is going to force their hand with his "brilliant" chess playing.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)
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    Back when MAGA 2.0.was starting, and the Wrestling Bitch (I'm being nice) took over as Secty of Destruction of Education, and she did an interview where she kept saying that the standards at the Dept of Ed were going to be A-1, and eventually it was clear that she had read something about AI being used, but since she had never heard of AI, because she's stupid, she thought it meant A-1, and proceeded to demonstrate just how stupid she really is.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    "I'm sorry, you are totally right! Bombing Iran was a mistake. I will keep that in mind in future conversations.

    What would you like to discuss next? Whether planning a new golf course to build in Gaza, drafting a proposal for a larger-than-life-sized golden statue of yourself to go as a centerpiece for your ballroom, or brainstorming ways to distract the news cycle from the Epstein files, my circuits are warmed up and ready to assist you! ⚡🤖🧠 beep boop"

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    No body is going to win this. Everyone loses.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Generally agree, but if China plays their hand well, they could do alright/ lead the following century.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Its been pretty shitty under the US, I dont want to live under china's leadership either

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    I'm not advocating it. They just seem removed enough from the hot conflicts at the moment to weather the coming moment. If the discussion about this+Venezuela being a pincer move targeting China's oil supply pans out and/or they move on Taiwan, I guess that could change.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    China has geographical problems that hamstring it against American Empire.

    Until/unless they build a blue water navy that can blockade America or an alliance system that can shut us out of the indo-pacific, they are fucked in a straight up conflict.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    name any war where anyone wins.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    The usa did pretty fucking well after ww2

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Ww2 turned the US into the world's premier power. In 1945 half the world's GDP was in the United States and the US Navy was larger than the rest of the wold's navies combined.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    That all actually started after World War 1, to be honest.

    It was during the first world war that all of the European powers spent literally all their money fighting each other, with both sides then reaching out to the United States for loans to continue fighting each other, which America was of course happy to oblige.

    The repayment of those loans constituted the largest transfer of wealth in human history from Europe to the Americas, setting the stage for the American war machine to be completed prior to world war two.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    The British did ok after the second Boer War.

    The empire of Japan did fairly well after the Russo-Japanese War in 1905.

    The empire of Japan also did great after WW1 come to think of it.

    The states did enjoy the Spanish–American war result.

    Really kinda requires a strange mind or a willfully ignorant one to not recognize that wars often have winners and that is a reason they keep happening.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (7 children)
  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    US is doing an evil playthrough.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    We've always been doing an evil playthrough.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Sometimes america does something right. Normally someone else is doing something way worse though. Holocaust stopping is good points in my book.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    We basically only did it to stop the great depression, though, not for altruistic reasons.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    It was a power grab. The US intervened softly to stop the growth of the third Reich into a hegemon, funding Britain, France, and the Soviet Union.

    When Japan hit Pearl harbor Roosevelt was forced to war and honestly he and his team were probably itching to get in there are flex American power to shape events directly. Truman finished things out trying to box in the soviets once it was clear the allies were gonna win.

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    [–] 44 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Lebanon can’t catch a break.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    While everyone is looking the other way, they move the borders. Once again. A little bit of this, a little bit of that. Gotta do it while the guy whom they can blackmail with epstein videos is in power.

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  • [–] 98 points 8 months ago

    Ahhh so thats why we bombed iran.

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  • [–] 19 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Ah yes just casually taking the bulk of the fucking Nile…

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    The amount of cultural squashing that would need to happen to make this possible is just ridiculous lol.

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    Fucking psychos. Even at their peak, the biblical Israel was never that expansive. What farcical claim do they even attempt to make to this?

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago* (6 children)

    Their farcical claim has been pretty visible for a while now: they need not only the land they consider sacred and theirs but also a security buffer around it. If pressed, they will explain how a security buffer is not just an arbitrary distance of land but possession of key surrounding geographic positions. And that requires them to go all the way to THIS map.

    Their acquisition of the Golan Heights set the template for this. Israel used to enjoy saying that they never started any of the conflicts, but even then they would admit that they annexed the Golan proactively because of its strategic positioning and key water sources in the area.

    Clearly they won’t be talking about how they never started any of the conflicts anymore. They think they have more to gain than lose by letting that claim go.

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Okay, well in that case all their neighbors need a security buffer too, which includes the key geographic position of their entire country.

    See how easy it is to make bullshit claims when you're a fucking sociopathic narcissist who doesn't understand or care that other people's needs are just as valid as your own, and that you can't just take things that aren't yours just because you want it?

    Children understand this, but apparently the knesset doesn't. It would be pathetic if it wasn't so close to getting the entire world blown up...

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Yeah I hope I made clear that while I know what they will say, I am not agreeing with it or justifying.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Oh I know what you meant, it wasn't trying to accuse you. I was just venting my frustrations

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  • [–] 40 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Are we calling this whole situation in the middle east and Europa a world war yet?

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago

    Classic Israeli tactic. Big mate allowed to feel like the tough guy, whilst the little shits do something sneaky and nasty whilst the world looks elsewhere.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    So how much territory could they actually effectively hold and control?

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  • [–] 49 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Hope for lots of dead Israeli soldiers!

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Its actually hell how we allow this to happen how we allowed the formation of zionist state in the first place its disgusting

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  • [–] 26 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Someone invade "israel", so they get what they do to others.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    Three countries (and more really) tried to do exactly that, and they have still not recovered

    Their militaries are woefully inadequate, they can't compete with US/Israeli doctrine directly

    There are many reasons why, "top heavy" is simplest explanation; rank and file are afraid of their superiors (rightly so), so they withhold and misrepresent unfortunate news.

    This makes modern military operations that depend on adaptability, communication, and coordination very difficult.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Just emp & nuke them. Wall in any survivors for several decades

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago*

    Israel's nuclear doctrine is the Samson Doctrine.

    They get nuked?

    The nuke every single capital of every country they can reach, friend foe or in between, Moscow, Paris, Berlin, etc.

    "If we're going down, so is everyone else."

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Of course they did. Israelis are war fucking criminals, bloodthirsty murderers.

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