At this point you HAVE to make it a 7" behemoth to get sales, but a lower-volume model with a smaller screen would be a great addition to the lineup. But I can't imagine too many people buy them because Apple stopped making the Minis and they don't usually stop making things that make them money. I actually loved my 13 mini. If this Motorola-GrapheneOS partnership ends up spawning a phone of that size (I do think a lot of privacy enthusiasts may also be smaller phone enthusiasts), I may finally go back to Android.

My large hands would probably be fine with a 'nearly 7" behemoth' if phones would just go back to a 9:16 aspect ratio. I may even be able to appreciate a more ereader-like aspect ratio like 2:3, 3:4, or 4:5. I have just been fed up by the unnecessarily tall phones of the past decade.

I bought my current phone, a Motorola Moto G Stylus (2025), because I of its hardware support. It has E-SIM plus a physical SIM slot, SD card support, and a headphone jack. The one downside is not having any custom firmware builds available. I'm hoping that changes in the near future.

GOS already confirmed it's shipping with a flagship snapdragon SOC so it won't be a budget device. Maybe a future model though.

I think most of those other features are a long shot as well. The GOS team hasn't really specified any preferences for non-security related features and I doubt Motorola would suddenly change their hardware design/direction.

I’d rather have it be a bit more mid to upper range, I want a nice processor and decent cameras

Dude I miss notification LEDs so much. And there is no proper "do not turn on my screen" permission in Android so some app stubbornly wake my screen.

Also would add Display Output over USB to that list.

e-ink screen! i adored the motorola-f3 with the led segment screen

Don’t forget when you could listen to fm radio using the headphone jack as an antenna.

I thought that was going to be the future, but it’s easier to sell music from your music store when you kill am/fm radio.

And no notch or circle in my display!

Unfortunately the first device from this partnership is unlikely to be cheaper than the a series Pixel lineup. The GrapheneOS team already confirmed it will have a flagship snapdragon SOC. Have you looked into used a series Pixel devices? The 8a can be had refurbished in the low $200 range, and it will have software support for 5 more years. The 9a can be had for about $250 and will receive 6 more years of updates.

Honestly, $400-$500 for 7 years of support is a killer deal. 5 years ago the only manufacturer to give a meaningful amount of support was Apple, everyone else was up to 2, even for flagships.

But I completely understand your situation, especially if you're trying to be fiscally responsible and NOT get your phone on a payment plan of some sort. The 7 years of support means you might be able to find a 2 year old Pixel for below 300 though? Unless they don't depreciate fast enough for that.

Bruh Android devices used to only get 2 to 3 years of support at most not that many years ago. 7 years is a MAJOR improvement.

I didn't like the look of the batteries in the pixel watches. I actually have a Huawei watch (yeah, I know) and it's great. Turns out, when you're subsidised by the Chinese state you can make a good product that costs less.

I just picked up a Pixel 7 for 200 from swappa

for something that they themselves admit would likely only get around 7 years of support.

Do you know of an android device with longer support than 7 years? The norm is 3 years.

GrapheneOS devs have been very clear about Fairphone not caring the slightest about security. They are the last OEM in the world they'd choose.

Fairphone has a partnership with Murena to ship a variant of the Gen 6 with e/OS/, don't they?

You didn't know that GrapheneOS is diversifying by also deciding to start manufacturing footballs (soccer for our American friends)?

Definitely, both are close but obviously wrong.

It's possible they are updating the logo in light of the partnership?

Looks like shitty photoshop of stock images to me.

I think this is exactly the win-win situation from this possible partnership: Motorola makes secure hardware and firmware patches, GrapheneOS takes care of the whole software security and timely updates (they already do).

That's on the cheap models. The higher end stuff comes with 4 years of updates

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116148741815778719

We never ruled out working with Motorola, Samsung, Nothing, OnePlus, etc. We said none of their current devices meet our requirements which remains the case for all of them. Only future devices from our OEM partner can be supported and it's going to take time to meet all of the update and security feature requirements. It's planned for 2027 but we aren't sure when in 2027 the devices will be launched. There's a lot of work to get done on updates, MTE, etc. before then.

That sucks because Motorola actually is great at hardware

Those aren't the real logos either.

one of the largest

The source is not this publication, the source is Motorola, as posted by a user on Reddit.

I would love something with a good camera (sensor & (zoom) optics).

It runs fine on my Pixel 7a, I have an account with 2 Brazilian banks and they all work well.

Some apps just don't work though, but they are far and between, an example is Brazil's gov.br, which is a website that is used for ID confirmation on everything that pertains to the government (tax revenue, your own business details,etc.). But then an old phone does that job for me at home.

Speaking of Brazil, it is worth mentioning that Google Pixels are not officially sold here. The ones I did obtain I bought on a "Brazilian eBay" and there is no e-SIM support for it nor any warranty services. I had to do the battery replacement myself despite knowing that Google was offering to fix faulty Pixel 7a's on NA/India/Europe/etc. I am only bringing this up because, coincidentally, 50% of Motorola's smartphone sales are on LATAM. It's a pretty smart move they are making if you ask me, they are aware they could explore this huge market it seems.

I haven't had any trouble with banking apps. One gives me a warning but allows me to continue. Google Wallet doesn't work for payments but that is just fine with me.

My bank's app won't run on my Pixel 8 Pro with GrapheneOS. Most apps run fine. It's pretty much just the bank app and eBay that refuse to run.

Anyone with first-hand experience, how’s Graphene OS with banking apps?

Depends on the bank. Chase didn't work, but bank of america did.

Use your bank's web portal. If your bank doesn't let you use a web portal, switch fucking banks, because that means they don't care about you.

Bank apps are filled with all kinds of tracking spyware.

GrapheneOS has strict requirements about hardware being secure enough, so if existing Motorola phones were secure enough then they'd already be supported. This is presumably about future devices that Motorola are going to build.

Me too, I've grown kind of suspicious of Graphenes security so getting official support by Motorola is nice.

My 2021 Moto edge does not have a head phone jack.