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[–] 118 points 8 months ago (22 children)

While I'm happy that it's Motorola, i just wish someone like Fairphone also bites the bullet of investing in a proper encryption chip that's acceptable to Grapheneos. I'd like to see more or a trifecta (duofecta?) of trustworthy OS and sustainable/committed manufacturer.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Now is this the REAL Motorola or is it the brand name that Lenovo got a hold of. Cause real Motorola doesnt make consumer phones anymore.

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  • [–] 14 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Lenovo's Motorola, if you ask me. I don't think there's much left at all from original Motorola. But they had a decent track record with their recent phones, AFAIK. Not that I've owned any from Motorola.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I currently own the 2023 Motorola edge+ and love it. Its got flagship features at like half the price. I bought it for like $700 2-3 years ago.

    • Snapdragon 8 gen 2
    • 8GB RAM
    • 512GB storage
    • IP 68
    • Triple camera 50-50-12MP
    • Stereo sound
    • WiFi7, Bluetooth LE
    • NFC
    • Fingerprint sensor under the screen
    • 68W charging

    The ONLY real drawback that I've had over 2 years is that the front glass is curved and breaks too easily for being Gorilla Glass. The curved design also means that case options are super limited so its a double whammy.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I think they just released the fair phone 6 not too long ago so it’ll take a while even if it’s on the tables.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I know....I guess it's just wishful thinking for the future. I've gotten a 2nd hand pixel pro last year. That's...a lot of storage and memory, just about as much as my laptop. Should last me for a while (I hope it won't physically break for any reason!), so I won't immediately ride this Motorola wave anyway.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    GrapheneOS requires I think a few other things, like the possibility to completely disable the data lines in the USB port, and a bunch of others.

    The problem with Fairphone is that they have rather high demands (e.g. long term support for hardware, better production practices) but they are a rather small outfit, so the default answer from parts manufacturers is "talk to the hand".

    As they grow they'll become more interesting

    I would argue that Fairphone with /e/OS is a combination of a committed/sustainable manufacturer with a trustworthy OS. It does not actively spy or screw with you, and it tries to prevent snooping in many places.

    Of course it's not nearly as security hardened as GrapheneOS, so that may be an unacceptable compromise to some.

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  • [+] -13 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Fairphone does partner with Murena for e/os. It's pretty similar to grapheoneOS

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Im sorry, I think your have spelled LinaegeOS, an OS thats not even security based but to support old Hardware which security has already been compromised by missing Firmware.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    If we want GOS to grow, we need to welcome and help people understanding the differences. We don't need to be pedantic schmucks.

    Sent from my GrapheneOS phone

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (2 children)

    If you want to convince GOS users to occasionally drop their sense of superiority, it looks like you have your work cut out for you.

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  • [–] 69 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    You know, I’d love a razr flip with graphene. Bring it on.

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  • [–] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Ooo I'm sure this is likely for future models, but I was actually pondering getting a cheap pixel to try out graphene and see what it'd be like compared to my Razr. Maybe I'll have to wait a bit to see how this develops.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    You can find older pixels on swappa for cheap - my understanding is that we won't see a GrapheneOS phone earlier than 2027 (which admittedly is only 9 months away).

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    [–] 66 points 8 months ago

    The best thing about Motorola is that they ship with a very stock android ROM. It's also the worst bit, because there's nobody maintaining any software. Handballing software maintenance to GrapheneOS would be sweet.

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  • [–] 28 points 8 months ago

    Yeah this is cool. Could have been much worse than Motorola. Looking forward to this

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  • [–] 41 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    This genuinely so fucking smart from Motorola. Whomever is greenlighting this needs major kudos. We're in a world where everyone wants to move away from US technology now and Google/Apple have monopolized the market. Motorola is making this move RIGHT when everywhere else is going "Is there literally nothing else we can use???" Good play esp as they need to up the specs on a new device to handle Graphene. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Isn't Motorola still a US company though? How is this a move away from US tech?

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago

    Glad to see this. Motorola seemed like a solid choice. Hopefully we'll get some specs and release dates when they officially unveil it. I know it was pushed back to 2027, so I'm hoping for a Q1 2027 release. I've been holding off on getting a pixel in the hopes of getting a non-Google GrapheneOS phone. It would be nice if I don't wind up having to wait too much longer.

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    why in the thumbnail is it neither org's logos?

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago

    Really hope it releases 2026 so I can get rid of this pixel asap

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago*

    MWC 2026 announcement likely, but devices may not ship until 2027

    Motorola is expected to formally announce the partnership [in March]. With MWC 2026 around the corner, the timing would make strategic sense.

    In case others were wondering, MWC 2026 is March 2-5. So, hopefully we'll have official verification by the end of the week.

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  • [–] 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    According to the article, it was a little obvious that it'd be Motorola. To me it's unexpected as I wasn't following this all that closely. In any case, I'm personally pleased with the OEM choice. I'll need to do some research on Motorola's smartphones to prepare for the one/s that support Graphene.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    They are basically stock android with minimal bloatware for a decent price. I've been using them for years. There's the whole Lenovo scandal but its hard to find any decent phone I want nowadays so concessions need to be made somewhere

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm mainly interested in the hardware, i.e., screen, camera, build quality, that kind of stuff. Though it's good to know about the software, since Graphene will most likely be the same with its security features.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    To me it’s unexpected as I wasn’t following this all that closely.

    I was following closely - checking for updates weekly or more, while struggling to be so much as content with my P9FP and trying to decide whether to upgrade to a P10FP (marginal upgrades on paper, but they really help out in the weakest areas).

    Still entirely unexpected to me, and even in my wildest hypotheticals, Motorola was not on my radar.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Man I can't WAIT. Next up: Fairphone

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  • [–] 32 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    I Fucking love Motorola, I'm cumming as I'm reading this. Thank you Motorola.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Same. I don't think I could use a phone without the chop to turn on flashlight thing.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Unfortunately I was an idiot and uninstalled it when I was debloating my phone. I reinstalled moto actions, but the chop for flashlight doesn't work unless it's recently after a reboot (the turn for camera does though). Legitimately temped to make a backup then factory reset my phone to get it back.

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    [–] 11 points 8 months ago

    Haven't had a Motorola in many years. Hopefully this works out well and we get a really nice piece of hardware that isn't subject to the whims of Google.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Since when is Graphene's logo a football and Motorola's the Super Mario M?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    Fuck yeah, solid shoid of brand.

    Although I don't know how good motorolas camera game is if you are more serious about the camera.

    Edit... Not sure how I got shoid from typing choice...

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I remember having a motorola razr when i was younger. Loved the design

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  • [–] 13 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    It's great to see a mainstream OEM work with GOS. I really hope Motorola will make phones with an actual headphone jack. That's my no. 1 complaint about modern Pixel hardware.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago

    Motorola had made several classic phones.I hope this will be their true comeback.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    i would liked xiomi more but more Hardware is better than only google

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago*

    It will be great if this reaches the Moto G series. I'm sure the Fairphone is nice but it's 4x as expensive--no thanks.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago
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    Something I’ve been thinking about: independent security projects often face pressure once corporate partnerships or funding enter the picture.

    Does GrapheneOS have any structural safeguards to ensure development priorities remain community-driven if hardware vendors become more involved?

    I’m not assuming there’s a problem — just interested in how projects like this avoid the “venture capital influence” problem that has affected other open source initiatives.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I'm very confused this news. Reddit sub said it wasn't Motorola. This post claimed it's Motorola.

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    If Motorola is willing to have a non-shitty operating system, why can't they just put a non-shitty operating system on at the factory? All the stock Android OS I've seen lately, including Motorola's, are crappy, have privacy settings disabled, and in many cases are full of unremovable malware.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    Well, Google wants to continue their trend of spyware and people don't give enough shits for anything to change. Same as with smartphone manufacturers removing features (SD cards, removable battery) and car manufacturers adding spyware and unnecessarily complexifying cars to make them less sustainable.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Because that was not their goal before, they were OK with the level of freedom their users had with stock Android. With the future restrictions Google will apply to Android they are probably looking to ship their new devices with Graphene to prevent that.

    I used Motorola's products with Android for years and they one of the few in the market to still deliver something close to stock Android with only a couple of apps added for specific features (gestures to turn off flash lantern, etc) so I don't where you got this malware thing going on with them. Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes.

    Now I got a Samsung and it's one of my worst experiences ever using their "One UI" and it is really riddled with crap because Samsung for some reason thinks they need to add their own versions of every app included in stock Android.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    This is how a functioning capitalist system should work. Companies competing against each other for the benefit of the consumer.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    wish i could pre order

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    I would like it even more to see that working on a Xiaomi or Samsung

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Tbh, not a huge fan of the pick. I had various Motorola Droid phones for years before switching to Samsung. All of the Droids were horribly underpowered after 2 years and the batteries only had 1/2 of their original capacity by that point. Then I got a Samsung S10e and it lasted 5+ years.

    I seriously hope Motorola has gotten rid of their planned obsolescence policy in the past few years. It's nice that there's going to be a second vendor option for GrapheneOS soon, but I wish it was a better vendor

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    what would you consider a better vendor? samsung, xiaomi, oneplus? those all have been plenting more and more malware into their phones from the factory, sometimes making it seem like a feature, and recently they started to bar owners from replacing the OS on it by taking away the option to unlock the bootloader

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Motorola flagship phones are decent. I've been running a razr (the flip alternative) and its been solid. They're not groundbreaking but they are a good bang for your money

    Their low budget ones aren't that good because they cost like 200 usd and run on bare minimums

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago

    I sense Motorolas authentic belief in me as our pact is formed....

    BOND RANK LEVEL 1 LEARNED PIXEL DEFOCUS YOU CAN NOW STUDY THE MOTOROLA ARCHETYPE IN AKADEMIA

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