We have a cat tree we use. So artificial.

We have a cat tree we use. So artificial.

When I can, I get a real tree. After Christmas, I trim all the leaves and branches off the trunk and put those in the municipal compost bin. I then put the trunk in storage and let it dry out for a year or two. Once dry, I'll carve them into things like walking sticks, wizard staffs, etc.
That's fucking rad
Thanks! Here's an example. That's me on the left, my husband on the right.

I made both that walking stick and wizard staff from old Christmas trees. And a close up view of the staff:

Sickkkk. How long do they take to make?
The walking stick was an afternoon project. Just carve, sand, and stain. The staff was a lot harder, specifically the tines that wind around the crystal. I made the staff off and on for several months. I built the tines up by cutting out thin strips of wood. Then I glued them together, laminating the tines up one layer at a time. Once they're built up, I carved them into a smooth shape and filled in cracks in the epoxy. The amethyst is affixed into the socket I carved with epoxy as well.
I could have made the staff faster if I was really pushing it out. But just the time to glue it up would still require about 2 week to make.
Artificial. While it was a ton of plastic I can't get over cutting down a tree every year. Seems wasteful to me. My artificial is exactly the same as it was 10 years ago and I have no need to replace it.
a real one, which are usually Norway Spruce species, which has the iconic signature tree look. YEA its annoying when it starts to decay and go brown, you just dump outside, its wasteful asf. and a real one you have to make sure it doesnt carry any pests with it.
The ecological damage of a single artificial tree vastly outweighs that of cutting down many trees (don't remember the exact numbers). - Source
My main ask then because it does matter is how many real trees cut down is the equivalent. As said it's done for me, artificial tree is up right now so moving forward it doesn't make sense for me to abandon that. For those who don't have one though, how long would they have to own the artificial tree?
I'll admit I'm skeptical of the statement because it's a common technique that has been used to prevent people from choosing greener alternatives. The great EV debate has been plagued with it, with people bellowing that the cost of mining the minerals means you should just drive ICE cars when in reality if your EV rolls over 15,000 miles you've officially hit the tipping point.
Same thing with new stoves, water heaters, a lot of pro-oil will claim "Well manufacturing alone means that you're actually hurting the environment, you wouldn't want to do that now would you?" and put the blame back on the consumer when in reality most of those purchases become carbon neutral usually after a year or two of standard use. Now for the trees if it's 20 years... maybe. Even then I wonder about the potential of those 10' fir trees growing into full adult trees and what we cut short by cutting them down. (Granted I know most are farmed now, but even then, it'd have be be multiple decades for it to make sense in my book)
Plastic is pretty much never going to be a greener alternative than a renewable, biodegradable plant. Especially if they can be grown nearby.
Now that I can't believe. At some point it's better to let the trees keep growing and make a plastic tree. We're not talking about paper for newspaper or something consumable, were talking about an item we want to keep for a lifetime. I can't believe that cutting down, setting up, and throwing out 70 real trees over a lifetime is better than one plastic.
Just went back through the episode and they some artificial trees may have less environmental impact if used for at least 5 years. However, some other things to consider, first where do you think the plastics in the artificial tree come from? That's right, PETROLEUM! Also, artificial trees will end up in a landfill once they reach their end of life while a real tree is 100% biodegradable. Lastly, most artificial trees come from oversees (mostly China) whereas getting a live tree is a great way of supporting local businesses. Of course now that you have an artificial tree you're better off using that as long as possible to minimize the environmental impact.
We're on year 30 considering ours was a hand-me-down and we've been using it for 20.
However, some other things to consider, first where do you think the plastics in the artificial tree come from? That's right, PETROLEUM
I mean, yeah of course that's why it was the first thing I called out
Real, but I keep it in a pot and it goes outside the rest of the year. It's about 3.5' tall at the moment and gets a little bigger each year. I've had it for 4 years now
Same, except that once it gets too big we take it out to my parents' house in the mountains and plant it there. So far one has died and one is surviving and happily growing.
That sounds excellent... i might pitch that to my wife for next year.
Real f'sure.
A lot of states sell Christmas tree permits every year, so for 5-10 bucks plus gas I can harvest my own tree(s) sustainably.
It's rad.
If you can't find yourself in any of the states above, it's likely you live in a state with state-run Christmas tree programs. Texas, Oklahoma, any state not in the half of the US listed above will have other state resources for Christmas tree permits and many private tree farms, which are maybe 10 dollars more but offer the same service:
Buy a permit, drive there, choose a tree, chop it down, take it home.
Thats what we do! 30-45 minute drive and we can get noble firs.
Haven't done this, but I've known people who do. Beats the tree lots.
Never heard of this. Probably because the nearest are hours away.
Nope, centrally located because the whole point of the program is sustainably harvested trees accessible to civilians.
You can check the linked locations above.
When I used the site it said the closest locations are national forests but none of the ones close to me.
I looked at the full list and there are zero locations in my state. Tons in the western US so I assume that's where you live.
Nope, but I understand your assumptions.
The US has conifers everywhere, and the link above is for a single collective of federally managed public lands, but does not include every other state-run and private organization that sells Christmas tree permits across the US.
If you can't find yourself in any of the states above, it's likely you live in a state with state-run Christmas tree programs. Texas, Oklahoma, any state not in the half of the US listed above will have other state resources for Christmas tree permits and many private tree farms, which are maybe 10 dollars more but offer the same service:
Buy a permit, drive there, choose a tree, chop it down, take it home.
Interesting. My state does offer this. Closest is still about an hour out; not much further than I go now.
Made a note to look into this next holiday season. Thanks!
Awesome, you got it!
I've also added the state programs information to my original comment, so I'm glad you brought it up.
I was kind of blown away when i first found about this and got into a long talk with a ranger who explained it all to me, so I certainly understand your skepticism.
Up until that point, I literally knew nobody who cut down their own Christmas trees, and now a few of my friends also get their own trees every year.
6 foot trees have fairly thin trunks, so all you need is any trail saw, I've even used a hatchet, and you'll harvest the tree in a manner of minutes.
I am surprised at how many artificial tree users there are. Way more than I expected.
I have mostly lived where I could just go get a real one from the woods if I wanted to, so I guess that gives me a bias. If I couldn't have a real tree, I dont think I would want one at all.
I am not much into christmas, but the whole bringing a tree home with a connection to nature makes it worthwhile. Love the smell of a fresh tree too.
Never had issues with needles or bugs so I find that strange as well. I mean sure, the tree drops some needles at the end, but that is what the skirt is for. The few outside of that is just a single day of vacuuming that you would be doing anyways.
Not sure how real this survey is, but they say 83% of households do a fake tree.
https://wror.com/2025/11/18/fake-christmas-trees-are-preferred-over-real-trees-by-a-big-percentage/
Same. This comment section is so bizarre to me.
I've always had real trees. I love the smell too much to go with a fake one. And I agree, there's something magical and nostalgic about the whole process of picking out a tree, and tying it to the top of your car to take to your house. It's part of the Christmas tradition.
I am surprised at how many artificial tree users there are. Way more than I expected.
I am not much into christmas, but the whole bringing a tree home with a connection to nature makes it worthwhile. Love the smell of a fresh tree too.
Also the whole no microplastics being generated thing. You'd think that since that discovery was made people would be quicker to choose non-plastic and yet here we are.
We always had an artificial one growing up, but if I ever buy a Christmas tree myself I'll buy a real one.
Neither. Cutting down a healthy tree for a little ritual seems extremely wasteful to me. I don't care much about Xmas so I don't have a fake tree, either. I do have lights up in the apartment, but they're up year round. I like the colors.
I haven't had or put up a Christmas tree since I was a child. I don't see the point. I don't do any seasonal decorations. Time moves so fast that it's like a week later I'm taking down a bunch of shit I paid money for and can barely use.
We started putting our shit up almost immediately after Halloween. I don't mind all the gaudy bullshit, just the work and storage space. I just want to put up projector lights. My wife complains that they look like someone didn't put any effort in — I said that's exactly why I like them. At least we were able to agree on a prelit tree with no extra ornaments. I do miss the extravagant trees my grandma put up when I was little but it's so much breakable glass shit.
Last year I put up permanent Govee lights. They were pretty good but then we had our roof redone this fall and I noticed half of them don't work now. C'est la vie.
I get where you are coming from, but I find holiday decorations to be one of the highlights of an otherwise crummy season.
Winter is so depressing. It is cold and dark all the time. It is fun to come home to a bunch of silly lights everywhere. I leave mine up for a few weeks past Christmas. If you ask me, the tree should stay up until the first day of spring.
I feel like I'm "not allowed" either.
I grew up in a very religious household/extended family. When I was 19, I became agnostic. But I actually really enjoy the Christmas season and decorations. It doesn't have a religious tie to me, but it has a nostalgic tie to me.
My husband is VERY jaded/exhausted/raged by Christianity as a whole. Their very existence pisses him off. So naturally, Christmas pisses him off.
But in a fantasy world where we could all get past this bullshit -- I'd honestly be happy with either. I grew up with artificial trees, but real trees always seemed better. But killing trees to be a decoration in your home for a month seems wrong..
Final answer- artificial tree would be my choice if I decorated.
While I certainly feel the rage, the tree is yet another decoration the Christians copped from the pagans they sought to drown out. It's yule, not what Jesus put in his home for his birthday (not that he was actually born in the winter anyway, they rewrote that too). Eggs and bunnies are pagan fertility things, not what phasewalker Jesus handed out from the tomb.
While I know it's clearly a Christian symbol now, you can't change what makes you nostalgic.
Anyway, I don't know about everyone else, but it was only this summer I learned that "pagan" just means ANY religion that isn't Christian. I assume it's more the various Nordic, Germanic, and Anglo sects in the European Christian range.
It doesn't have to be a religious celebration. Just copy the USSR and celebrate the parts of Christmas you want (putting up a tree, gift exchanges) on New Years.
I hunt my own free range tree. It's satisfying having a hand in is death. Feels good to take that chainsaw to it's body, cut it down in the prime of life, strap it to my truck, let the wind whip through its slowly dying limbs. Drag it inside my house and hack parts off until I'm satisfied it fits. Stand it in my dining room and drop fresh water into a bucket with screws attached that is designed to prolong it's eventual demise. Then after a couple days of letting it slowly warm, we gather as a family and decorate it's festering body with glittering lights, shiny baubbles, and memories of years past. Before we then place gifts below it's slowly dying limbs to exchange with each other on the day we celebrate the world breaking and entry champion for the past 1745 years. After that I wait a few days, rip the glitter off, and toss the remains outside, either in the trash to be buried and gone, or to the graveyard of the trees, where it can finish rotting with others of it's kind.
It's a lot of work, but oh so satisfying.
none, my house keeps getting messy despite expending few hours of cleaning every week, no time for extra chores
we've used artificial for at least the last 9 years now. Less cleanup, less expensive and easy to setup
Doesn't feel like Christmas without the smell of a real tree. I go out back and cut a small one.
Number one cause of house fires around Christmas time, dry trees in homes. We put up the same artificial tree every year.
We 'rent' a real tree. After Christmas we bring it back and they re plant it.
Artificial. Cost me an arm and a leg when I got it, but I've had it for so long it averages less than half the price of a real tree pre year. Plus, I don't have to bother with finding a good tree, transporting it home, and then driving to dump it at the recycling centre.
Have always had artificial. My parents still use the same tree they used when I was a kid. When my wife and I bought our own place we invested in a good quality artificial and I expect it to last just as long.
Real trees are a nice idea but I’ve seen far too many horror stories about them causing fires, and even if they don’t go up in flames they still drop needles and insects everywhere. Why take the risk?
I bought an artificial one second-hand which felt like the most sustainable option - not cutting a tree down every year and not paying for virgin plastic either. Charity shops here are usually filled with pretty nice ones since a lot of people seem to replace their plastic trees far more frequently than they should.
I used to go real, but lack of proper ones made me go artificial instead.
I grew up on the countryside where part of holiday tradition involved grabbing a saw and finding a proper tree in one of the many woods around the property. Now that I live more urban I have to rely on whatever is on the market. And the quality of the market is awful, so I might as well have something that at least looks good.
Frugal family, never had a tree. I didn't care either. I just wished we did something fun as a family. I see normal families on tv and I feel jealous. My parents aren't like bad, but they kinda aren't good either. None of the holidays were really memorable in particular. I had "okay" moments, but nothing really "wholesome" that i could share.
Like any useful gifts or really just family time to some new place is all I want, fuck trees, I personally don't care, it doesn't really do anything.
I mean colorful lighting would look cool, but trees? Meh.
(I'm not born in a western country for context)
When I was a kid we did a real tree. When we visited my brother last year we did a small real tree. Normally we have a fake tree.
We had some deaths in the family and some sicknesses, so we weren't feeling festive last year and set up a 3 foot tall fake tree before we skipped town. This year, today, I set up the big huge fake tree as a surprise while my wife wasn't home. I'm hoping the Christmassy decor without the work will get her into the Christmas spirit. We'll see if she's glad or annoyed. :-D
No update after thirteen hours. Wife wanted to decorate the tree. He dead.
Real every time. I feel bad for the poor tree but nothing beats the smell of a fresh Christmas tree in December.
When I can be bothered (not often) I get a real one. The smell is amazing, it looks great and the imperfections and variations make it look much nicer. Oh, and the best bit? When I take it down I get to take it to the goat farm down the road - they go absolutely fucking nuts for fir trees.
Artificial. Didn't even buy it. Picked it up from the curb and fixed it up with new lights
We have large floofy ragdoll cats, 14lb missiles of Christmas tree doom.
Thus, we have neither.
Our cats are tree-obsessed. This year we are doing an experiment. I spent about $15 at Goodwill on a fake 4' lit tree, a pressboard "live laugh love" framed thing and a little tin bucket.
Spread the branches to either side, flattening the tree on one half, paint over the vapid sayings on the board, and wire the tree to the front, hiding the light plugs & extension cord in the little bucket.
So far so good. 
A real tree 🎄 The smell and the beautiful imperfection, that is Christmas 🥰
Why would i want a real tree? They're messy and EXTREMELY FLAMABLE
Maybe some enjoy flammable? My lunatic ex took an old Christmas tree out to the backyard and set fire to it because he wanted to see how fast they burn. He nearly did burn down the house, that was a BIG fire, very tall fire. But if you have a big enough space, or broke it down to burn more slowly and reasonably? Fuel.
artificial because killing a tree is repulsive to me. killing a tree for a tradition full of lies makes it even more repulsive
Neither!
I live in Australia. Everyone here does fake trees.
I've had artificial pretty much my whole life.
The last two were both hand me down trees, and in turn I handed down the tree I had.
Artificial for sure. That's been the case since 2 years before kids were born.
I never had an artificial tree growing up. We always cut it ourselves, drilled it, fed it, decorated it and so on. I took my wife from the city to go cut one and it was a great experience. That said, the artificial one is so nice. It gets assembled and has lights included, so once you stack it, it turns on and is already lit. All you have to do is arrange ornaments.
Full disclosure, I HATE DECORATING A TREE. So for me, not having to put lights on is a huge win. Also it's the right height every time, And stuff just works.
I use a real tree because I have cats that would eat the plastic one, and I feel that plastic trees are worse for the environment.
As an asthmatic, fake trees are the only way to go. The mold real trees have and produce as they die often cause croup cough among asthmatic. You only need croup for one Christmas before you figure out it's just not worth it.
Many years ago, we decided we did not want to cut trees anymore for the purpose of decorating our place, and since we also did not want to use a plastic one I did what I had to do by... painting a small one on top recycled cardboard that I cut to shape.
It's really small (the fat red-bearded dude doesn't overwhelm us under gifts either, maybe it's because he hates our tree?). It looks like a kid's version of a Xmas tree, some people would call it ugly as fuck, I say it is unique. We can easily (dis)assemble it & store it (takes no space at all), it never shed, we never lose or break a decoration, and setting it up with all it's decorations is just a matter of sliding one piece of cardboard into another, for its trunk/foot ;)
Despite it being made out of cardboard and being painted with gouache it's sturdy, only needing a touch of fresh paint every now and then. The previous one lasted something like 11 years before I had to make a new one, this year.
I'm also team cardboard tree! Mine is a small one that came as a kit with lights and stuff, painted it at the office as a holiday fun thing with the over-lunch craft crew. It's about 10 inches tall and fits on the shelf under the TV, next to the PS2.
This year I went all-out and got a Christmas tree-shaped ornament to set next to it. It's shaped like those vintage ceramic ornaments and tickles me pink.
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