They don't trust us, we don't trust them.

Every country has "the idiot third", add a couple "IDK" and bam 40%

half of those are probably Bertans

I’m afraid that the humanity you starve for has always been an ideal, and not reality.

It’s been gone since Citizens United, dude.

What’s scary is even the anti-Trump ones are like that. There’s a lot of them trying to come to Canada and they’ll say things like “my great great great grandfather was Canadian, Canada is my TRUE HOME also what’s with all these Chinese immigrants in Vancouver??” like ma’am that Chinese man has probably been here for 3 generations he is more Canadian than you. Don’t get me started on how they’ll pick out certain stereotypes to try to sound more Canadian, like “oh I LOVE poutine and hockey, it must be in my blood because I’m TRES CANADIAN”. Like they genuinely do not get it.

The one silver lining to this whole fascist takeover of the US is that I'm not an odd one out in my hatred of the USA anymore.

I've been saying for a long time that US fascists are only bringing forth America's true face. It has always been arrogant, genocidal, and imperialist. Ask Latin America and the Middle East if they have positive view of the US. Even my country after being liberated from Spanish rule, the US took over us despite opposition and used the same suppression tactic as they had applied to Native Americans. This is in spite of US proclaiming to be the land of the free. "You are not free unless we say so". "Follow the international law and rules based order, except for us". Biden himself affirmed US will invade The Hague if the International Criminal Court arrests any American citizen. He pardoned his son from criminal conviction. But when Trump does it all, that is corruption and illegal? So much for shining beacon on the hill, land of the free and proponent of international law.

The US establishment since inception are closeted fascists from the get-go and doesn't even know it. Now, Trump is bringing to light the truth. And why not? The voters demanded authenticity and this is what they get as asked. In "The Shining", a major theme is America's colonial past and one of the quote is "you've always been the caretaker". The US has always been a fascist but never knew its real face. Where did the word fascism comes from? From Latin "fasces". Where did the words "empire" and "colony" come from? From Latin as well. Where did the US republic model itself? From the Romans, who committed genocide, engaged in slavery, practised imperialism and was hedonistic and heavily unequal as society. From anti- and post-colonial perspective, countries that either modeled itself from the Roman empire or sees itself as the next Rome always collapse-- from the British, Germans, Russians, Spanish, France and now the US.

Those 30% morons should move to the middle of bum fucking Mississippi.

I think "oot" emphasises the difference from US accents for parody reasons, and also it's just not that simple to describe that difference by substituting a single letter of the alphabet. The best way I can think of to describe it (based on experience with friends from BC) is like a combination of "oht" and "oat"

A lot of people in the us will misinterpret a rural Ontario accent as Californian because way back in the day a bunch of people from Ontario moved to California and apparently the accent kind of caught on.

There's a town called Ontario in California even.

Same, never heard 'aboot' in my life. However, I do tend to say '-eh' all the time, especially at the end of sentences as emphasis.

its more like "a-boat". I've never even been to Canada, but I can often spot a Canadian on TV within moments based on how they speak.

Afaik, the aboot thing is a regional dialect thing in parts of Ontario.

And, as we know, Toronto represents all Canadians... (or at least thinks they do)

It's exaggerated. I'm from Newfoundland and have little to no regional accent, but still have very slight grammatical and phonetic tells that are apparently obvious to people from elsewhere.

I use more long "O" sounds than people in the US which is apparently obvious almost immediately, and I have some odd grammar whitch apparently singles me out as from NL very quickly to anyone in Canada.

Also, apparently the way I say "thirteen" has a stronger hint of Newfoundland in it than the rest of my speech, at least according to one of my co-workers from Ontario.

It's quite possible that having such a wide ranging family same social circle has simple acclimated you to the various regional differences in dialect.

East Coast thing in my experience. Especially more rural

A boawt

It's because everyone's accents have gotten less distinct/strong due to TV. I know people from the US south with barely an accent because of this.

Also, some of the accent stereotype comes from your own movie productions, especially older ones when the accents were more like that:

https://youtu.be/EojzfxXGxtE

Granted they are playing this up for their characters

It's harder to make a joke with zed vs zee.

One time I was having a conversation with a woman that I had never met before. About 5 minutes into the conversation, she used a word with the "ou" vowel sound and I asked her if she was Canadian. She was caught off guard and didn't understand how I correctly assumed she was Canadian.

Brecht:

"When the last [war] came to an end There were conquerors and conquered. Among the conquered the common people Starved. Among the conquerors The common people starved too."

No one can trust an oligarch. If they live in your country, they are not your countrymen. If they don't, they are not the common people who live where they happen to.

No matter how good a person could be, I wouldn't trust them if they are easily manipulated in believing BS. I won't hate them, but I won't trust them.

Anyone with an bit of judgement could see what Trump was. And yet he was elected. Twice!

So all these "good people" have cpntributed to elect a fascist twice already. You want me to trust they won't elect another one after him? That this is a two times mistake and Canadians can rely on the US after that?

Nope.

Maybe they were lied to about Trump. They will be lied to again by others about other fascists.

You can blame education, oligarchs propaganda, whatever. Point is: Canada can't rely on the USA, even if Trump goes away.

Yeah and the voters are less than half of the population

No, they don't. Every poll for the last decade puts the total MAGA support in the mid- to high 30s. MAGA is a very small minority of the world, but the difference is that they are sociopaths, so they have no problems violating legal and social norms to get what they want, while everybody else wants to play by the rules. Bad Faith players always get a big lead near the beginning, but eventually the treason, corruption, and incompetence that is inherent in EVERY authoritarian regime, destroys them from within.

If we give them enough rope, they will eventually hang themselves with their own virtuosic incompetence. The problem is the massive damage they will do to America and the word before they get there.

And that overhaul is both far away and likely to be extremely painful.

I always tell Americans to just try to get out. Failing that, it's about surviving and not making the situation even worse in the process.

Yeah, talk about putting the cart before the horse.

A brave-enough Congress could overhaul the Supreme Court, as they had in the past.

Unfortunately that level of courage is missing from most current politicians.

Cuba is illegal in the Untied States. All other countries should outlaw the Untied States, make it illegal to go there and illegal to possess anything made there, until the Untied States behaves itself.

So you're still saying it will end eventually?

Could have just not had the war...

It wasn't about democracy back then either. It was about a small, mostly slave owning, elite taking over.

Ah yes. Native American. Famously for participating the the Boston tea... Hold on...

Are you a bot?

Strange way to bring up that particular atrocity.

Doesn't seem to have any bearing on the subject matter of the OP, or the commenter you're replying to.

Weird.