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[–] 81 points 1 year ago (22 children)

You are not immune to propaganda

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Nearly everyone thinks that they are immune, but we're not, we just recognize some that probably wasn't targeted at us. As far as I am concerned, the only way to not be influenced by propaganda would be to completely avoid it and be some sort of hermit.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Exactly. Blocking out ads wherever possible is the only way to not be influenced by advertising. At least it helps to know that one isn't immune to it. That helps to counteract the effects somewhat, but don't count on it if you aren't actively keeping your defenses up.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I bet there are hermit influencers who post videos where they hold the latest chamberpot up to the camera and extol its virtues. Then they post a shelfie that shows their latest book haul about transcendental meditation and bushcrafting.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Do they just record the video to a usb drive, seal it in a bottle, and throw it in the ocean or something? Wouldn't posting it online revoke their hermit status?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, the thing about propaganda is that it works, and if it doesn't work, then the propagandists will come up with something else that does work. The thing is that they're constantly thinking about how to exploit you, while you're thinking about other stuff.

    So for example, I hate feeling like I receive a hard sell. So, if I am at a store and somebody tries to sell me something, I will not buy it, and in fact, I'll probably assume the product is so shoddy that it can't be sold without pressure. Same goes for popup ads online.

    But if a marketer knows this about me, then they can definitely manipulate me. They just have to do it in a way that I don't realize is marketing. And there are all sorts of campaigns like that.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Exactly....

    The reason i run ad blocking at every level isnt to show that i'm too smart for marketing...

    It's because ads work on me.... my brain rejects certain ads for sure, and it says "psssshhh, how can people be dumb enough to buy that shit???".... but that doesnt mean i'm too smart for advertising and that it doesnt affect my brain in subtle other ways.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Which is why developers don’t want to talk to a salesperson and would rather just try the tool.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes, that is the generalization that the article pushed. It's not true, because developers are not homogeneous. The point of my statement is "if you are a developer, ignore this because it is not true. You don't have some sort of power that makes you immune to marketing. You're just as susceptible as the rest of us, just in a different way. Ya know, like everyone else is"

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Maybe some are. You may have fallen for some propaganda here.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    No, they aren't. Any one who thinks they are is more susceptible.

    Humans are social creatures, propaganda is a social contagion.

    The only people who could be would be those with no ties to anyone. Kind of a nonstarter for the whole "cooperative survival strategy" that humans got going on.

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    I see what you're saying, but I'm done talking about this. Your logic is circular at its base, so there's nothing to talk about.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Yeah, I was just trying to prove a point that anything that's a blanket statement saying everyone or no-one does something is invalid, unless it's a physical constraint. (Even those break inside neutron stars and black holes.)

    I agree with you that almost everyone is susceptible to propaganda, but to say that no one is immune is simply wrong. Anyway, sorry for being annoying and pedantic, but it was kind of on purpose.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, but maybe we don't make that point on the statement that reminds people to be mindful of their beliefs and where they picked them up from. Feels like a thing that we should maybe encourage in people more, if anything.

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    [–] 67 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Nerds are some of the biggest consumers of stupid pointless bullshit on the planet.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    A lot of shit is marketed through forums like this; you just don’t notice it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I block people if they needlesly use a brand name isntead of saying the group name. Do I probably have some false positives? Probably.

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    This... strikes me more as self-aggrandizing than informative.

    Yes, many technical folks are put off by certain marketing tricks. Good marketers just use different techniques when targeting people in this market, when they bother to at all.

    We're not immune to manipulation; and thinking that we are makes us more susceptible to it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Agreed, it's tooting his own cohort's horn without acknowledging he is, inf act, susceptible to marketing. The actual topic at hand is marketing for software tools to software devs. Of course hand-waving marketing doesn't work, it's a technical field with technical products. The marketing he's blasting is emotion-based marketing. Guess what, there's plenty of other emotional decisions that will be affected by marketing in his life. Vacation destinations, artistic exhibitions, restaraunts, games, whatever. This article screams like it's from someone who loudly proclaims marketing is dumb because they weren't swayed to by women's deodorant because of a YouTube ad.

    You are not immune to marketing.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    But you need to remember that those targeted practices are very few in comparison to the volume of neuro-regular/non-technical folks.
    So we arent peone to the same bullshit in regards to volume.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Maybe - but the marketing that won't affect you isn't what you need to worry about. It's the parts that do still work on you need to be careful of - and if you assume nothing will ever work on you, you won't even notice when something does take. Whether that's buying a trinket that doesn't actually make you happy, or joining a group that turns out to be a cult.

    Always better to assume you can be manipulated, and check in with yourself periodically.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    As a former developer with probably 40 games under my belt, I'm gonna say this is a highly specious article designed to stroke egos. Yes there are very valid points being made that I can personally identify with, but they come from a one-dimensional perspective that also manages to leave out data, and conspicuously lacks basic understanding of the efficacy of 'general' sales/marketing, instead filling in with presumptions of comparative efficacy.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Have you ever heard of HeroEngine? It's no longer around but the developer that was contracted to make it is working on Apex Engine at https://www.apexengine.com/

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    A long time I haven't heard that name. It was over hyped at the time IIRC.

    If you're not a studio (Hero engine wasn't free or cheap), go with Godot.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I was a world owner. I got the lifetime 99 seats when it was $300. I never did anything with it, though. The owner, Idea Fabrik, had a lot of drama. The actual developer, TGS Tech, went their own way when IF collapsed. HeroEngine did have issues such as texture resolution. Apex Engine takes the experience and lessons from HeroEngine and adds more modern technology. Some AI will be present but limited. It's under very heavy development.

    I wouldn't use it as a daily driver (and certainly not for a first or second game) but it certainly has lots of potential. Feel free to read the website and visit the Discord server.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Nah I'm good :-) but good luck!

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  • [–] 320 points 1 year ago (50 children)

    Has anyone been to any kind of convention for nerdy things. Nerds are so captured by the marketing and products being sold that they let it take over their personality and they can’t stop buying junk.

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  • [–] 182 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (25 children)

    Yeah, this is self-aggrandizement from a group of people who consistently believe they're smarter than everybody else, when in reality they just lack self-awareness. Nerds will smugly post in this thread using their overpriced mechanical keyboard as a wall of Funko pops and Star Wars slop looms behind them. I worked in marketing for a long time and I know damn well I'm not immune to it.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago*

    Pretty much, yeah.

    The article points out how a bunch of specific techniques don't work on programmers. That's because they're aimed at project managers, not programmers. And yeah, they work. Hardly any programmers willingly chose Jira for their ticketing system, but project managers love that shit, and it's everywhere.

    All it really means is that it takes a different set of marketing techniques to reach programmers. They generally don't bother, because programmers don't typically control the budget directly.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I got a curved, split, tented ortholinear monstrosity with a built in trackball and I'm finally done. I get that it's stupid and a waste of money but my hands feel so good typing all day on it

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  • I did too. I didn't get it to look cool, I got it because I have carpal tunnel and I don't want to have surgery.

    I like the clicky, it allows me to type longer, and I can fidgit with the firmware and do what I want with it.

    If I got it because it looks techy then I'd just be a poser

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I disagree, I don't fall into the category you stated. My walls are lined with 80s memorabilia and 3d printed things I have created. I reject anything advertised to me and will only purchase tech that I have sought out that meets my needs.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    If this irony, good job because I think most people will fall for it.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I don't think it is. I know a few people like this, and im heading in that direction myself. The only kinds of "ads" that work on me are when a number of equally nerdy people I know find a new thing, and they've demonstrated that it has helped them with something or they are genuinely enjoying using it. Like 3D printing. Its semi-pointless most of the time but it is a genuinely fun hobby, which when combined with 3D modeling and post-processing skills becomes an actual craft. I didn't get into it until a good number of people around me did.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    80s memorabilia and 3D printers are not exempt form marketing. They are products just like anything else.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    3D printers are not exempt form marketing

    Case in point: Bambu and Autodesk sponsoring every maker Youtuber. (Fuck both Bambu and Autodesk, BTW.)

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Wait. I thought bambu made good printers? Why fuck them?

    *I ask because I want a 3d printer for christmas and don't know which to get. The bambu seems great.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/bambu-lab-controversy-deepens-firmware-update-sparks-backlash-240588/

    TL;DR: they're infecting it with (even more) proprietary garbage, which is a slap in the face to a community built on the ethos of the RepRap project. Everything in hobbyist 3D printing -- the software, the firmware, and the hardware -- is built on open-source designs, and Bambu's attitude is to take all that and then not give back.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ahh shit. Ok so Prusa or Qidi is the way to go? I did some research last night. I'm just entirely new to the whole scene. So I'm a total noob.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I hesitate to actually make a recommendation other than "not Bambu" because I haven't done a ton of research myself.

    • Prusa is possibly the best option in terms of ease of use and ethics, but I'm too cheap to stomach their prices (YMMV).
    • Sovol proudly advertises the fact that their stuff is based on Voron open source designs, so that's good.
    • DIYing a Voron is what I might suggest if you weren't so new (and what might be my next printer).
    • Creality, Elegoo and Anycubic are sort of the leaders among generic Chinese brands that implement open source designs but don't really champion it or give back, but also don't try to screw the community. IMO they're good options if you're more price conscious, like I am.
    • I have literally never heard of Qidi until reading your comme

    I personally own a Creality Ender 3 V3 SE (that I got on open-box discount from Microcenter for <$150, BTW) which used to be considered the best entry-level printer but now seems to be getting less recommended as newer competitors come out? I'm not sure what I'm missing out on, TBH, other than obvious higher-end performance features that would move a printer out of that market segment. Any ease-of-use features it lacks can be fixed by hooking a Raspberry Pi running Octoprint to it, but I don't mind enough to bother. (I also own an old Monoprice Select Mini, but that's not relevant in 2025 and I only mention it to say that the Ender wasn't my first printer.)

    I think the Ender V3 SE is a fine choice if you're just getting started, unless you want to spend a bunch more money (either to get capabilities like large print volume, a heated chamber for exotic filaments, or multi-color, or to pay a premium to support a brand that gives back to the community).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I saw people recommending keychrons, went and bought one thinking I made a smart choice. didn't even google what kind of issues they have... I'll remember next time I'm about to throw money at some random crap that a few people recommend.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don’t have a single funko pop or Star Wars toy or whatever. I have a Keychron keyboard that cost me $70, while it is more costly than the average membrane I like mechanical ones. I never buy new if I can (usually this is a time constraint, I.e I broke my phone and I need to replace it quick one because my job relies it). I Adblock everywhere I possibly can to not see the ads but I genuinely believe I’m immune to advertising.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    I genuinely believe I’m immune to advertising.

    You are not - you just don't see it as such. Even if you didn't use the internet at all (which we can see is not the case) you would still fall victim to its network effects.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Then they ain't nerds, sorry.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I think scottsman are the ones that are actually immune to marketing.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Right? I've seen the walls of Funko Pops... nerds definitely are not immune to marketing.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    do people actually buy those? I honestly thought they were some kind of money laundering thing. I've never once saw one sell.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They aren't fucking nerds then. Nerds don't buy Funko Pops.

    I can name 3 or 4 people who own walls of Funko pops and I can tell you they wouldn't know an IDE from MS Word. None of them went to college either.

    They're posers.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Is that marketing or is it just finding stuff they want to own?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    How do you think you "found" it? A whole supply chain of people, from branding to packaging to advertising, made it so that you can "find" things on websites that are themselves outright advertisements or at least funded by them.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    It's a mistake to attribute purchases to marketing just because a marketer breathed the same air at some point. First-degree advertising influence and umpteenth-degree influence are very very different.

    I mean, I probably wouldn't buy a car from a company I'd never heard of, but that's mainly because there are none. If I happened to buy a car from after researching what was available, I wouldn't attribute that to 's marketing department. At least, not unless they bribed the independent reviewers, ratings boards, etc.

    Same deal with most of my tech purchases, except that in that space there often are brands I've never heard of. And I'm (usually) savvy enough to tell when they're legit and when they're not. (I know more than I ever wanted to know about SSD controllers and I'm kind of angry about it.)

    You're right that nobody is truly "immune" to marketing, but as a matter of degrees, there's a big difference across groups. There are people out there who look at ads and register them as useful information. There are people who intentionally click on ad banners on Instagram, rather than treating them like digital leprosy. There are people who click on the first Amazon referral listicle they find on Google and then treat it like independent journalism. There are people who use GoDaddy, when the only possible reason anyone would is because that racecar driver is hot. These are not behaviors you should expect among the kind of nerds this article is talking about.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    You’re right that nobody is truly “immune” to marketing, but as a matter of degrees, there’s a big difference across groups. There are people out there who look at ads and register them as useful information. There are people who intentionally click on ad banners on Instagram, rather than treating them like digital leprosy. There are people who click on the first Amazon referral listicle they find on Google and then treat it like independent journalism.

    Perhaps, but I'd argue people who click on ads knowing full well it's an ad are more enlightened than the nerd - sorry, "geek" - who thinks they operate on a higher plane of existence, not knowing that Youtube review was bought and paid for or that Reddit post was made by an LLM.

    There are people who use GoDaddy, when the only possible reason anyone would is because that racecar driver is hot. These are not behaviors you should expect among the kind of nerds this article is talking about.

    You're really dating yourself with this reference, and I am by understanding it. Incidentally, who do you think bought all that gamer girl bathwater?

    Same deal with most of my tech purchases, except that in that space there often are brands I’ve never heard of. And I’m (usually) savvy enough to tell when they’re legit and when they’re not. (I know more than I ever wanted to know about SSD controllers and I’m kind of angry about it.)

    This is a bit different because it isn't really an emotional decision - they are are fungible, functionality being equal. But would you choose, say, a computer case without caring about the way it looks or makes you feel?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Incidentally, who do you think bought all that gamer girl bathwater?

    Honestly, I have no idea. Did people actually buy it? I thought the whole thing was a joke.

    I'm not about to no-true-scotsman nerdhood here, but I will say that I don't relate to whatever group bought into that. I'm just not that kind of nerd, I guess.

    Which raises another point: there are no monolithic demographics of any significant size. Anytime you generalize about "nerds" (or any other group), nothing you say will be 100% correct across the board. Generalizations are still useful when viewed in terms of trends and distribution curves. It's fair to say that men are taller than women even though there are short men and tall women. It would be more precise to say that the height distribution for men skews taller than for women, but I think most people intuitively understand the truth behind the simple, plain English generalization anyway, even if they don't think of it in precise terms.

    But would you choose, say, a computer acse without caring about the way it looks or makes you feel?

    The way it looks: yes, absolutely. My current box is metallic black with a window. If I could've bought a functionally equivalent one with no window at the same price, I would have. If I could've bought a functionally equivalent one in hot pink for cheaper, I probably would have. (There is a functional aspect to appearance as well, since it's in my field of vision and bright colors could be distracting, so I'd have to think about the pink. "Black" and "no window" are on my wanted-features list for this reason, but other factors can override those wants.)

    The way it makes me feel: well, cramped space, bad cable management options, and poor airflow will make me feel bad, so...arguably? But I'd consider that a matter of functionality more than feeling.

    I feel like at this point we should talk about the oft-neglected difference between marketing and advertising. There is an aspect of marketing that directs product development down a path toward what they understand people actually want. When done well, this is good. It should be the marketing department's job to learn what problems people have with products in the field, and make sure those problems are addressed in future products. Advertising is a subset of marketing that tries to directly influence consumer behavior to buy whatever they're trying to sell.

    For example, there was probably a marketer involved in the location and design of my favorite coffee shop, and if they did their job well then they deserve credit for helping make the kind of place I enjoy sitting in. Cheers to them for that.

    But I'm no more likely to go into Dunkin or Starbucks just because they are advertised incessantly. You might find that hard to believe, and I wouldn't blame you! I can't prove it to you. And I understand that among the general population, repeated exposure affects perception, and by extension behavior, in subtle and deeply-rooted ways. I don't imagine that I am immune to the effects that, for example, cause preschool children to prefer the same food from McDonalds bags vs unbranded bags (see https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17679662/). But we are more than our base nature, and these effects can be negated in practice. I suspect tech nerds in general have internalized stronger countermeasures than the general population. Not full immunity, because reality is too messy, but a notable resistance.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    First off, thanks for the thoughtful and detailed reply.

    Which raises another point: there are no monolithic demographics of any significant size. Anytime you generalize about “nerds” (or any other group), nothing you say will be 100% correct across the board. Generalizations are still useful when viewed in terms of trends and distribution curves. It’s fair to say that men are taller than women even though there are short men and tall women. It would be more precise to say that the height distribution for men skews taller than for women, but I think most people intuitively understand the truth behind the simple, plain English generalization anyway, even if they don’t think of it in precise terms.

    Of course, and marketing itself works with generalizations about demographics and targetting etc. As in anything there are extreme outliers, but there's definitely a bell curve, and I doubt most people are as near the poles as they think.

    The way it looks: yes, absolutely. My current box is metallic black with a window. If I could’ve bought a functionally equivalent one with no window at the same price, I would have. If I could’ve bought a functionally equivalent one in hot pink for cheaper, I probably would have. (There is a functional aspect to appearance as well, since it’s in my field of vision and bright colors could be distracting, so I’d have to think about the pink. “Black” and “no window” are on my wanted-features list for this reason, but other factors can override those wants.)

    Sounds lke you're primarily a value shopper in this case, which is fair, but for every one of you there's a r/battlestations poster who spent more for something aesthetic - and unlike others here I won't start "no true nerd-ing" those people away out of convenience. I to a certain degree am one of them, and I'm definitely a nerd (as is everyone on Lemmy). I'm sure there are different things you choose to splurge on.

    I feel like at this point we should talk about the oft-neglected difference between marketing and advertising. There is an aspect of marketing that directs product development down a path toward what they understand people actually want. When done well, this is good. It should be the marketing department’s job to learn what problems people have with products in the field, and make sure those problems are addressed in future products. Advertising is a subset of marketing that tries to directly influence consumer behavior to buy whatever they’re trying to sell.

    In the industry we'd rarely refer to those people as marketers (more like "market research", basically statisticians and much less cool) but you're right that it's on the same continuum. Focus groups fall in there too. I wouldn't really count it in this argument though because for most of us it's a fait accompli when we're faced with whatever is on the store shelf. It isn't something we can be "immune" to in any meaningful way, short of becoming a self-sufficient hermit.

    But I’m no more likely to go into Dunkin or Starbucks just because they are advertised incessantly. You might find that hard to believe, and I wouldn’t blame you! I can’t prove it to you. And I understand that among the general population, repeated exposure affects perception, and by extension behavior, in subtle and deeply-rooted ways. I don’t imagine that I am immune to the effects that, for example, cause preschool children to prefer the same food from McDonalds bags vs unbranded bags (see https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17679662/). But we are more than our base nature, and these effects can be negated in practice. I suspect tech nerds in general have internalized stronger countermeasures than the general population. Not full immunity, because reality is too messy, but a notable resistance.

    But do you have a favourite coffee place, or restaurant? How about a favourite hotel chain? We often don't realize all the subconscious triggers we're subjected to.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    As I think more about this, I have a new theory:

    • Advertising is mostly aimed at the "average" for maximum coverage.
    • Neurodivergent people are not average.
    • Neurodiversity in tech is higher than in the general population.
    • Therefore, lots of tech people are accustomed to advertising that is at best aimed elsewhere and at worst hostile toward them.

    So perhaps the real story is simply "lots of tech marketers don't understand their audience". Which I think is true. When companies put their spec sheets and feature lists front and center, I'm definitely more likely to pay attention than if I have to dig through screen after screen of meaningless fluff to get any relevant details. So that's something marketers could (but generally don't) do to influence me.

    And I'm comfortable with that. Yes, please make better shit, out of greed if nothing else. Stand out by not being an infuriating weasel, respect my time and intelligence, and I will reward you with my time and perhaps money.

    But do you have a favourite coffee place, or restaurant? How about a favourite hotel chain?

    I'd say I have three favorite coffee shops. One place in particular has the tastiest coffee to drink black, another has better flavored drinks and a generally cooler vibe (local art on display, community bulletin board, that kind of thing), and a third is a better environment to sit and work on my laptop. I consider those my three favorites. None of them are big chains, and none of them advertise, as far as I know.

    For restaurants, I have a bunch of favorites for different foods. I have a favorite Indian place, favorite pizza place, favorite sandwich shop, etc. Again, nothing I consider a "favorite" is a chain. I guess if I had to pick a favorite chain, it would be...Chipotle? But I don't feel like marketing draws me there beyond the fact that if they didn't have successful marketing, they wouldn't be anywhere I go in the first place. And still, if I see a small independent burrito place in walking distance, I'm probably going there first. Chipotle isn't so much a "favorite" as it is a serviceable oasis when I'm in a food desert.

    For hotel chains...nope, not even a little. I couldn't tell you a single real difference between Marriot and Hilton. If their marketing departments have tried to instill in me any kind of emotional connection with their brands, they have utterly failed.

    It's kind of the same with airlines. They're all the same in almost every meaningful way. Every time I fly, I consult my shitlist and try to avoid what's on it, but at this point pretty much every airline has earned a spot on my shitlist. The only emotions I feel toward any airlines are bitterness, frustration, and anger.

    I guess this is why hotels and airlines push their reward points so hard; they know they're all the same and cannot possibly earn "loyalty" otherwise. If I were a different kind of nerd, perhaps I'd spend the time to optimize corporate reward points, but at a glance it seems like a sucker's game to me so I mostly ignore it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    So perhaps the real story is simply “lots of tech marketers don’t understand their audience”. Which I think is true. When companies put their spec sheets and feature lists front and center, I’m definitely more likely to pay attention than if I have to dig through screen after screen of meaningless fluff to get any relevant details. So that’s something marketers could (but generally don’t) do to influence me.

    It depends on the brand and who their target market is. I'd argue that Framework, for example, market in this way.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Someone makes a good product and then sells it in a store. Even if they do nothing else and buy no ads, a marketing wank somewhere would apparently want to take credit for the maker's work.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I would call my brother a geek, a collector of shit, expensive cards, moulded plastics, I love him for it but I see it as vapid. Whereas I am a nerd, I research and act with caution when it comes to spending, I own a mechanical watch which I can repair myself, I buy leather shoes with soles that can be replaced at a cobblers, run Linux on my desktop, custom ROM on my phone.

    Geeks are nerds who enjoy gimmicky things, nerds are geeks seeking purpose.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    we are not immune, we are just able to install a fuckin adblocker. noone is immune to propaganda.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah, I think that line is getting used as a thought terminating cliche. While the statement is certainly true, not being immune is completely ignoring the idea that people can vary in how susceptible they are.

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  • Yeah, I've caught myself almost falling for marketing BS a few times, before I dug a little deeper to find the actual information I need. I try to make informed decisions, and when companies present ads as information, it can be easy to be misled.

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