Looks like anything calling for Andy Yen to go has disappeared. Wonder how far they are going to go with this?

I think this tells us all we need to know about proton unfortunately.

The post they removed https://web.archive.org/web/20261031004517/https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/945460-general-ideas/suggestions/51867423-andy-yen-steps-aside

Edit: Wayback seems to be crapping its lederhosen so I took a screengrab of the post and posted it below.

Ih come on... Not only is this a jerk move, the Streisand Effect has been know for decades...

Fuck. my plan renews in a month, I guess I'm going to start looking elsewhere.

I replied to a survey thing of proton's a few weeks ago, and as I put it I'm happy to pay people for a good service. I will not pay a computer for slop.

Just checked, my votes and comments have disappeared.. Not even like listed as deleted or something, no traces at all.

I have cancelled the automatic renewal of ProtonPass and I have a few months to see if I’ll switch to KeePassXC/KeePassium.

For now, Proton gives me no reason to stay except the fact that they are a swiss company (my country).

This is unfortunate and is a really bad PR move. It feels too big tech.

Even if Andy Yen were actually right about everything, and it's his company, it's just more bad PR.

I think Andy Yen is probably a logic and math genius who needs to hire an emotional intelligence coach or a PR advisor or something. High IQ does not always mean high emotional intelligence and it's better to accept when you don't have both.

Alternatively, perhaps some evil government has forced Yen to install a universal back door, there's an order saying he can't disclose this, and so he's acting strange to try to warn users the only way he can. If I'm right about this, I hope he makes the background of proton.me bright green. He can always deny reading this if he does that.

Yup. Searching for "Andy Yen" brings up many declined posts

"Thank you for taking the time to share this. UserVoice is intended for feature requests about Proton's products, so this idea is being closed."

Okay, so where will they let us share ideas like this, other than our pocket book?

I’ve caught so much vitriol on this site for the past year or two for calling out this company as being run by a shitbag.

All I have to say is I fuckin’ told you so.

Where can I find a tldr of what's going on with the CEO? I've only read bits and pieces and feel that I'm missing, the big picture.

There were at least 3 of them, when I went on there to voice my discontent last week. So they are cleaning house to pretend everything is OK.

Privatization is a bitch

Of course they did. What did you think would happen?

I pay a VPN sub to proton, can someone explain what was discussed in the removed post and why?

I left for Tuta when he backed the current administration, however ended up back with them just because the UX wasn't there for me. I hope I can find something privacy respecting and polished in the near future

I know Andy Yen is a dumbass. But frankly, IMO, Proton is still a better service than Google as far as cloud services go. Because Proton isn't actively helping Israel commit genocide with AI tools among others. They're not actively scanning all your emails and communications, photos, drive, everything on your mobile device, and your browser to feed an AI and to push your targeted ads.

I'd still pick Proton over Google.

And if you want to talk about other alternatives, sure there are other ones. But none are as integrated as what Proton offers, which gives then a big advantage. Also, there are allegations that Tutanote is linked to secret services. There was another privacy-focused company in Europe that was tied to donations to far-right organizations. So there's that to consider.

Andy is a moron. Yes he may fuck up Proton. No I'm not happy with what he's doing and I'm afraid he might break something. And YES I know he was in favour of some candidate that Trump had nominated for an antitrust department role. But he never made any donations to Trump or any other far-right organization as far as I know.

And honestly, it's becoming increasingly difficult to find a company or a software where AI wasn't involved in some fashion. Everyone is using it because everyone else is using it and no one wants to be left behind or at a disadvantage. I think it sucks, but that's the reality.

If there are better alternatives, that's fine. Go ahead and use them. Promote them. Tell your friends to switch to those services. But for me, I'm still going to stick with Proton for now. It fits my needs and the company is still far better than many of the big name services out there and even some of the smaller ones.

Proton, the Fascist Security Company