cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/69659577

Protonmail.uservoice.com is supposedly "The Voice of the Proton Community". Well last week I was tracking a post that was rising rapidly to the top-most voted in the "general ideas" category. And this morning when I went to check if it was at the top yet, it's just gone without a trace. No sign that it was ever there.

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[–] 2 points 15 hours ago (7 children)

I know Andy Yen is a dumbass. But frankly, IMO, Proton is still a better service than Google as far as cloud services go. Because Proton isn't actively helping Israel commit genocide with AI tools among others. They're not actively scanning all your emails and communications, photos, drive, everything on your mobile device, and your browser to feed an AI and to push your targeted ads.

I'd still pick Proton over Google.

And if you want to talk about other alternatives, sure there are other ones. But none are as integrated as what Proton offers, which gives then a big advantage. Also, there are allegations that Tutanote is linked to secret services. There was another privacy-focused company in Europe that was tied to donations to far-right organizations. So there's that to consider.

Andy is a moron. Yes he may fuck up Proton. No I'm not happy with what he's doing and I'm afraid he might break something. And YES I know he was in favour of some candidate that Trump had nominated for an antitrust department role. But he never made any donations to Trump or any other far-right organization as far as I know.

And honestly, it's becoming increasingly difficult to find a company or a software where AI wasn't involved in some fashion. Everyone is using it because everyone else is using it and no one wants to be left behind or at a disadvantage. I think it sucks, but that's the reality.

If there are better alternatives, that's fine. Go ahead and use them. Promote them. Tell your friends to switch to those services. But for me, I'm still going to stick with Proton for now. It fits my needs and the company is still far better than many of the big name services out there and even some of the smaller ones.

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  • [–] 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    Proton is actively partnering with the university ETH Zurich, which not only collaborates with Israel, but also criminally prosecuted students who peacefully protested against that collaboration.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 hours ago

    If it’s the same situation as with the University of Geneva (which also works with Israel), the students had been camping for weeks in the University.

    I don’t think you can expect proton to lose a client over this, especially because these universities are working with a lot of different countries, good and bad ones..

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago*

    This isn't a comparison between Proton and Google. This is a criticism of how Proton is becoming just like Google. A lot of us moved to Proton specifically to get away from Google, and now here we are, having to move yet again because the CEO turned out to be just like every other big tech CEO. The most damning part is that the Proton Foundation board has said nothing.

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