Those things aren't mutually exclusive! Do both of them!
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If Democrats have any hope of winning the 2028 election, they need to learn how to walk and chew gum at the same time
Instead of loudly investigating and quietly going about normal business, they should quietly investigate and loudly go about the business of unwinding trunos fuck ups.
There needs to be accountability, but there also needs to be a change. If they can't do both, the same will happen again.
It's really strange, we pay these people to act as our representatives full time, drafting and proposing and voting on legislation. So why don't we see more action?
I understand that when the GOP controls congress, nothing is going to come up for a vote unless they're certain they want it to. But Democrats could still be introducing bills and spending time trying to force public awareness. And for a Democratic controlled congress even if they can't control the presidential veto, like we're about to see, why on earth shouldn't they be passing major bills every week or two? Even if the president vetoes them, that is how you keep voters' imagination and loyalty from drifting to the GOP, so I really hope that's what we see.
Yet somehow I suspect we're going to get into the driver's seat and hear about maybe two or three bills a year, all attempted to be "bipartisan." That's why I'm so anxious to get Jeffries and Schumer out - they can't imagine Congress acting any other way.
It’s really strange, we pay these people to act as our representatives full time
The amount you pay them in taxes is pocket change compared to what they get from the ruling class to not do that.
Because the American politics system with four fucking elected bodies, is dumb as shit and literally intentionally designed to make government ineffective.
An elected Senate and an elected House makes zero fucking sense. You just roadblock yourself constantly. The president being elected separately from either also makes no fucking sense.
And then the fact that your judiciary is like half elected is the most nonsense fucking bullshit on the planet.
Your system of government is not built or designed to be effective.
Imagine if people could do 2 things at once. What a world we would live in, if that was true.
Yeah, but this is 54-56 senators and 250+ representatives. They can’t possibly do 2 things different things amongst all of them.
Does the American public have the attention to pay attention to two things at once? No.
Do you not remember that Trump was impeached and didn't move the voting needle one iota? The American public does not care about anything other than their pocket book.
Didn’t move the voting needle, one iota, did it? Because as I recall, he lost the next election.
And won the one after that.
That’s not moving the needle, that’s shifting the goalposts

Lol, no it's not.
You interpreted my comment as focusing exclusively on the single next presidential election, while I always meant the bigger picture.
The right wing and swing voters in America by and large did not care about impeachment. They voted in maga republicans after maga republican, and not only returned him to power, but also elected a majority Republican Senate and House that loudly and enthusiastically endorsed him.
Just saying “nuh-uh!” And then doubling down doesn’t make for a good counter argument.
Oh, I see, it’s my fault you can’t make a logical argument.

So you triple down with an ad hominem… At least you’re consistent
Apparently, it’s you that has problem with reading comprehension, since you missed the several comments where I pointed out the flaws in your argument. And the best you can do is schoolyard insults?
Not very convincing.
Trump somehow manages to have like 10 different obscenities and acts of corruption running simultaneously, but 54 senators can figure out how to pursue two goals at once amongst them.
I can kinda see where he's coming from (assuming he's being sincere).
However, congress can focus on 2 things at once. They can and should do both.
I feel that politicians don't "go after" each other because they hope in not doing so, no one will come after them (or their own) in the future. Just do your job ... all of it!
I feel like if they're smart, they'll use the threat of it as ammo to get republicans to play ball with their initiatives. Put forth a bill to do something useful. It gets blocked by filibuster or veto? Great, let's spend the next few weeks focusing on some really awkward depositions, investigations and prosecutions. Then try again. Repeat as needed until they get the hint.
It doesn't have to be either/or. They've employed the "flood the zone" technique with their corruption, let's do the same thing in reverse, but with investigations AND legislation. Keep these MAGAs busy reacting to one thing or another.
It's OUR country now, and WE set the agenda and the message, and MAGA will have to go along with it. This guy sounds like he's just one of those old school cowardly loser Democrats who is still afraid of MAGA confrontation. He can sit on the sidelines and wait until we need him for a vote.
That's the neat thing, Adam, you can do more than one thing at a time!
God, are centrist Democrats so completely inept that they can't do more than one thing at a time?
It doesn't have to take two years. Don't investigate everything, because that will take forever. Investigate the worst stuff and impeach him as quickly as possible.
No, investigate everything. Hire a teams of good lawyers to deal with each investigation while different teams of experts work on legislation to solve other issues. Every time a team completes there solution, bring it to a vote and move to the next one.
The federal fucking government can afford to hire lots of teams to each laser focus on individual jobs. Each one of them is critically important. Just keep the corpo-lobbyists out of it.
If you're going to investigate everything, it's going to take forever to impeach him. Or convict him. He can flood the zone with so much crime that it will never end. Get him behind bars first, then investigate the rest. Keep investigating until after he's dead, but don't let impeachment and sentencing wait for all that.
You don't have to finish every single investigation to convict.
Just bundle them up into fun little groups. Maybe a neat little pack of Epstein crimes - investigate, charge, convict. Do a fun little group of bribery - investigate, charge, convict. Next maybe some fraud? Investigate, charge, convict.
The great thing is, you don't have to wait for them all to finish before you work on the next one! It's a cool trick called: more than one team doing things.
The thing to remember is that Congressional investigations in both houses take place in committee, not on the floor, and that committee assignments are often long-term commitments, fought over and worked toward over multiple terms, with the most powerful ones being given to people who have worked on them longest.
What this guy is asserting doesn't matter and won't change anything. It's hot air. He's a new senator who will not get especially powerful committee assignments, and after this he sure as fuck won't get anywhere near investigations.
But I will add, this guy is a reminder of why Schumer and Jeffries need to go: if you can't achieve, you can often block. This guy can't block shit, especially if he gets assigned to something like the committee on office trash collection. But Schumer and Jeffries can, especially Schumer. They need to go.
If you're interested, the REAL committee to watch is House Oversight -- the one already working the Epstein files investigation in spite of ongoing Republican efforts to shut it down and protect the perps -- and the rep who will now be chair, Robert Garcia of California, is one of the reps who was telling Republicans on election night, "Lawyer up." He's already announced the investigations he will be prioritizing and has been working on all along as the ranking (minority) member: he's hitting the ground running. And unlike the chair now, he's not afraid of applying actual consequences. I suspect we might even get to see some action out of the Sergeant at Arms.
We can, and will, do many things at once. It's not that hard. Bad actors just made it seem that way.
I don't see why they can't do multiple things at the same time.
For fucks sake. They get paid quite a lot and have exceptionally good benefits compared to the rest of us.
Plus all the stocks, bribes, and so on.
Lazy bastards.
Huh, I would have thought the 1st priority would be shutting down ICE, releasing everyone and closing the concentration camps. Then the 2nd priority would be getting the people back who were sent to random countries they've never visited before.
Check his hard drives
It's been just a week, and already 3 democrats are publicly opposing any accountability for republicans, one of which is fucking Kamala Harris.
It's almost as if... No, it can't be. It can't, right?
You have to stop trump from stealing the money before any will be spent to the benefit of the people.
This guy was a registered Republican until 2020. He basically was fine with Trump's first term. Let that sink in... He will be as useful to Dems as Fetterman is. That's one of the reasons I'm not very optimistic about the whole "blue wave" thing. A lot of those wins in red states are by center-right politicians.
Why not both? There's a couple of hundred of you to go around this time ..
Yeah, this is part of why I've been saying that it's a silly and naive fantasy to think Trump would ever see significant legal consequences for his actions. Has been since day 1.
The Democrats' mandate, especially Democrats like Hamilton who won in a red state, is to end the war and lower gas prices. Trump did plenty of corrupt and illegal shit in his first term, Kansas still voted for him overwhelmingly three times. It's not the voters' priority. And the reason they can't "do both at the same time" is because it's not a question of having the "time" to do it, but having the political will. Hamilton would presumably like to have a chance a reelection, and going hard after Republicans is not going to appeal to Kansas voters. And you don't just need people like Hamilton, you'd need Republicans to defect and turn against their own party.
This isn't the first time it's played out this way, and I can only hope that this latest example helps people to see the system more clearly for what it is.
Cool, fucking throw him up against his beloved firing squad and call it a day then do something beneficial for the general populace.
Congress is supposed to make laws; they aren’t a version of Law & Order
The bigger priority for me...is ‘please help us with the cost of living
Trump caused the higher cost of living, and he did it illegally. Started an illegal war and imposed illegal tariffs. Holding him accountable needs to be our highest priority, so that this shit can't happen again.
You might need to impeach and remove this guy to get rid of tariffs and end the Iran war.
To build momentum for this you might need to investigate him.
Checkmate dems, you have to do both!
Why are democrats fucking stupid? Republicans do not have hang ups like this.
Jesus, I thought he was saying because we should focus on getting him to The Hague.
What a jerk.
Good.
He's 100% right. You already fucking impeached Trump and no one cares. Why the fuck are you still focusing on this?
Get the leftist politicians who have a reasonable chance of winning elected to enact leftist policies to better people's lives. That should 100% be your focus.
Literally everything else is secondary.
they have little change of getting any legislation past Trump's veto unless they can talk a few Republican's into it.
They have very little chance of getting enough Republican Senators onside if the House impeaches him... again.
lot of jawboning ahead
He's 100% wrong, actually. With Trump's veto powers they have 0% chance of passing leftist policies. All they can do is prosecute and expose the corruption and incompetence. It won't fix anything but it will increase their chances of winning presidency in 2 years. That's the best they can do right now.
The senate has over-emphasized power, maybe it should execute it...without Chuck Schumer, stalwart of the status-quo...

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