Even the guys who invented Electron (developers of the Atom text editor) stopped using it years ago and switched to Rust when writing their new editor, Zed, and its UI framework GPUI (which Discord will be using too).

Yeah exactly. "Just" 240 MB, it's still a lot for a glorified chat app

"But don't forget to keep all the existing mistakes, those are intentional"

Hey Claude, add Discord branding to this template so that I may show off Windows task manager.

I got frustrated enough with the weirdness of the Linux client that I eventually ended up using a pinned browser tab.

At least then the data collection monstrosity is sandboxed. I believe Flatpak helps, too.

Marketing director of Discord on Reddit says linux will have a native client.

They are using GPUI. Rust native UI framework from the Zed IDE team. I think the creator of Zed is the one who created Electron in the first place, then left. I'm not sure though.

So it should be cross platform

"Native" sort of loses its meaning in this context - this new client is not "native" in the sense of using the existing GUI tooling for each platform (Cocoa for macOS, any of Microsoft's own frameworks on Windows, primarily Gnome/KDE on Linux).

It is using a universal framework in GPUI, so the experience will be the same on each platform.

It is "native" in the sense that it's not web technology on any of the platforms.

Anything else? Nah bro. It's as much spyware as Google chat or Whatsapp... But Matrix, XMPP, mumble, etc are not spyware (sure, if your host is the CIA maybe, but with these software you can be your own host if you want. No spying guaranteed.)

I get why vibe coders love Rust - it’s a lot harder to shoot yourself in the foot if rustc is checking your lifetimes, but holy shit is the code I’ve seen from them the most unholy mess. Rust is difficult enough to read at the best of times but LLMs don’t even bother with any kind of module structure. Just thousands of lines of vomit in single files and a worrying amount of unsafe.

And this will probably give rust a bad name if most of the code is horrid vibe coded stuff. (Cuck coded?)

99% of new Rust projects today are vibe coded, so probably yeah

Hmmmm, the first blog posts about rewriting the backend part from Go to Rust are a few years old by now (early 2020) so it's clearly not a "let's vibecode everything in two weeks" kind of project.

However... The later stages are probably vibecoded... Yeah, that would check out today.

TL;DR: vesktop will probably no longer work (unless they wanna mantain the client themselves...) and vencord will likely only work as a userscript in your browser.

It probably won't, but honestly there aren't that many features the desktop client has that you can't just get by using the browser webapp (Keyboard shortcuts, and the "now playing" feature that is a privacy mess, are the two biggest ones that come to mind right now)

The existing app is based on electron. It pretty much can't be optimised unless you manage to greatly reduce the footprint of Chromium itself.

It's actually really difficult to get your friends to switch over little things like 'being a spy platform', and 'leaking tens of thousands of users private information'.

People probably voice chat with their friends, I don't think Lemmy has that feature?

It's a mainstream platform, so many non-Lemmy people are still there.

Besides, it's always worth the praise when someone makes good technical decisions that benefit users.

Things I want are held hostage on Discord. If I want to play Motorstorm online, I look at the fan server channel and it has real time lobby stats and chat rooms to get some games going. Just an example. My friends usually use Steam for voice chat.

To manage my community more easly and interact with many others aswell plus every friend of my uses it.

There is no alternative currently that offers a granular permission system like discord's, voice chat and streaming that doesn't also suck in other aspects

Because thats what people use

I'm friends with normal people.

To easily chat and stream with friends

Someone at work with much more political power, and much less knowledge of how dangerous surveillance capitalism is, insists on using it 'cause they use it all the time and it's functional.

:(

Desire?

Oh, I'm sorry, I wasn't aware I had to forego all traditional social media applications to use federated ones. 🙄