Democratic Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman has lost his unique leverage in Washington now that his party has pulled off a blue wave in the midterm elections.

The Democratic Party was handed control of the House and the Senate on Tuesday, dramatically reshaping Congress for the country.

In Pennsylvania, Fetterman has wielded the power of being the deciding vote in what was a narrowly divided Senate, as a Democrat willing to break with his party. But Democratic Senate gains across the country on Tuesday have pushed their seats from a minority of 47 to a majority of at least 54, after flipping at least seven seats, as of early Wednesday morning.

This means Fetterman, who has long faced criticism from wings of his party for obstructing the Democratic agenda by voting with Republicans, will now have less power to force his party to listen to the views he represents.

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[–] 169 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Lot of bummer headlines lately. This one really feels good.

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  • [–] 48 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Hopefully we get a handful more good ones in the near future.

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  • [–] 29 points 5 days ago

    The stuff that is going to start surfacing will turn out stomachs, but we need to power through it to rub some right wing noses in the poop they were willing to overlook to pwn the libs

    (This is such a terribly written sentence you can rest assured I am a real person)

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  • [–] 83 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    to force his party to listen to the views he represents.

    Dropped the ball at the end there. That's the whole problem, he doesn't represent the people who got him in there.

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  • [–] 81 points 5 days ago (10 children)

    My biggest worry is finding out one of our newly elected senators turns out to be like him or Sinema. I really wish there was a fast acting recall mechanism for those saboteurs.

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  • [–] 39 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    This is why our work as voters has only just begun. We have to hold our reps feet to the fire on everyrhing. Call them. Make sure they know that if they try to shift their policy to the center we will primary them for someone thy will. If we get more fettermans we make sure they only get one term.

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  • [–] 13 points 5 days ago

    We can only yell at them so much. Someone like Fetterman likely has a lucrative gig with some lobbying group or think tank set up after this. They can easily do their damage as instructed and then duck out when the next primary comes by to challenge them. I want a recall mechanism that takes weeks/months to do rather than wait 6 years where they can still thwart any meaningful bills in the meantime.

    Getting a recall mechanism approved though would be next to impossible as the ones who have the power to make that rule wouldn't want to.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    ... like him or Sinema ...

    So. Carolina Senator-elect Andrews is already hinting that she will do exactly that. I hope I'm misreading the situation.

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  • [–] 40 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    The real question is who will be speaker. Jeffries means they’ll sit around and do fuck all for 2 years. AOC means they’ll actually DO something. I guess we’ll see.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Corpo Dems would rather reverse the election than let a progressive lead. They are most assuredly going with Jeffries. So don't expect any big Israeli action.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 days ago

    The people who decide congressional leadership, are the sitting members of Congress.

    2 years ago when the vote was held Jamie Harrison was still DNC chair, and not voting how he wanted would have gotten your state party cut off from "the victory fund".

    That fund is gone now, has been for a while.

    The current DNC chair named in February 25 dumped all that money back to the states it was stolen from.

    It's not just that we have to trust him not to use "the stick", he fucking burnt the stick to ash already.

    Representatives can vote for the leadership they want, but we need to reach out to them and tell them what we want them to do.

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  • [–] 33 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    So can they kick him out of the party now?

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (1 child)

    I mean, Haley Stevens was booted in a day. At this point his exit from the party is mandatory.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 days ago

    I mean, he sucks, but being butthurt that your primary opponent beat you, throwing a tantrum, then endorsing the other party's guy during a close election is such an egregious betrayal, it's basically unforgivable. I hope her political career is over and she has to survive on whatever AIPAC and fossil fuel companies already gave her...

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  • [–] 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Yay! But can we still kick him out?

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  • [–] 39 points 5 days ago (20 children)

    I've never voted in a primary before, but in 2028 I will be looking into that.

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  • [–] 65 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    Just FYI primaries are more impactful to vote in than general elections.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 days ago (16 children)

    Why have you never voted in a primary?

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  • [–] 33 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Let's not blame people looking to change, but embrace them. Primaries are how we move the party to the left.

    Last night was great progress towards damage control. Now we can start fixing things in the primaries.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    Where do you see blame in my question? It's an honest question.

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  • [–] 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

    My comment was more intended to keep people from dogpiling on your comment to drum up blame for Fetterman on those who didn't participate previously but have now seen the importance. Your intent almost certainly wasn't blame, but it could still nudge people in that direction, even if that wasn't your intent.

    I was usually the first in line to yell at people for not participating in the primaries over the last few years, and I felt a slight itch to fall back into it, so it was more of a "let's celebrate a win and move forward together" comment than anything specific about the intent of your comment.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 days ago

    Let's not blame people looking to change,

    Part of them changing includes taking responsibility for their previous actions (or in this case, inaction). That includes accepting blame for the very real results of people never voting in primaries.

    Fuck people who couldn't be bothered until it started to directly affect them. They are, in large part, responsible for getting stuck with shit candidates and they should be able to accept this reality if they actually want to change.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 days ago (4 children)

    My personal answer is that you have to register as a member of a party in my state, and I’m not fond of being on lists like that.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    I usually don't know anything about candidates before the actual election starts ramping up. I'm usually voting against people rather than for them.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    That's literally because nobody votes in primaries.

    It's like people don't put 3 seconds of thought into figuring out why the candidates you're presented with suck.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

    Bro only 10% of americans vote in primaries. AKA the literal check and balance to incumbent power but i digress.

    like FR, that is such a 2016 question.

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  • [–] 15 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    A+++ headline, meh article 🤷🏻

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago* (1 child)

    I especially loathe the formulation

    has long faced criticism from wings of his party

    As if it is he-said-she-said, whether Fetterman has been a total dick. And then the next moment the press will print Trump's most outrageous and blatant lies with exactly the same "some disagree" type of formulation.

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  • [–] 14 points 5 days ago (9 children)

    Most bills can be blocked by the filibuster and need 60 votes to advance so all seats matter. Like all votes matter, and the more the better to pass bills that the majority wants, even if the rapist vetoes them. End healthcare bankruptcies, pass paid work leave, higher wages, etc. and show what could have been with a Dem president and enough congress, and a better leader than chuck.

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  • [–] 23 points 5 days ago (8 children)

    Fun fact, a simple majority can remove the filibuster. The House never had one, and the senate only adopted it as an internal rule.

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  • [–] 7 points 5 days ago (7 children)

    Dems keep saying it has to stay though 😭. Maybe change will happen after this election

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  • [–] 9 points 5 days ago (6 children)

    The Democrats watched one episode of The West Wing and convinced themselves that the filibuster needs to stay

    Meanwhile the Republicans are changing the rules so Strom Thurmond can pick up his filibuster where he left off

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    So this vague statement about unity from someone not in office is your smoking gun for democrats already refusing to do anything?

    I take that very much as saying "what republicans have been doing for a long time is fucked up and most people voted against that". Also, this is Obama, who is no longer a politician.

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  • [–] -2 points 5 days ago (3 children)

    Claiming Obama is not a politician is like claiming Gordan Ramsey isn't a chef. Obama still wields a lot of political influence because he's basically Liberal Jesus. He can turn out numbers, fundraise, and influence political policy. His opinions are seen as the "correct direction for the Democratic party" and his approval is a jet engine to wider popularity.

    The people want MAGA to be held accountable. They can see clear distinctions between themselves and the fascist Republicans. We want fuckers in jail at the very least. The kind of message Obama and other Centrist Dems like Hakeem Jeffries are sending is one of unifying and accepting the crazies back into polite society.

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  • [–] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

    He has influence but he is far from Jesus. Even people who remember him fondly will immediately acknowledge his shortcomings. In any case, the statement was vague and I noticed you ignored that part which was the focus of my comment.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    When Hakeem Jeffries went on Morning Joe and said, "The American people don't want us to get even" right after the Dems won big in the House and Senate, that screams to me that Dem leadership is trying to stamp down on the energy of the voter base by making excuses as to why they won't be doing anything.

    It's the classic Centrist juggling technique. "We can't prosecute because we're focused on affordability. We can't improve the economy because of the Iran war. We can't stop the Iran war because the Republicans are too good at crime."

    Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and the rest of the Centrist Dems have not been exerting the power they have, small as it is. By claiming that these are vague statements are not indicative of Dem inaction, you are running cover for the Centrist Dems who want to do nothing.

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    By claiming that these are vague statements are not indicative of Dem inaction, you are running cover for the Centrist Dems who want to do nothing.

    This is either a lie or you're deeply confused. I said Obama's statement was vague and a bad example. Your example here would've actually made the point and would've been informative and gotten no pushback from me.

    Are you confused or are you pretending I said something I didn't? It's a fascinating thing for you to try, if the latter.

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  • [–] 12 points 5 days ago

    Good. Fuck that guy.

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  • @MicroWave He should be kicked out.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago

    No, he does matter. We care about getting rid of this doofus. He will be hurting PA citizens.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago

    I'm worried he's not the only plant, he's just the one that got brain dammaged enough to out himself.

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  • [–] 6 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    To be fair, a traitor's life never matters.

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  • [–] 5 points 5 days ago* (3 children)

    I mean, we'll see.

    I suspect the magic number to pass a bill in the Senate is going from 50 back to 60, again

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago (1 child)

    MAGAs aren't going to be as obedient to Trump any more. Clearly his influence has crashed. EVERYONE he endorsed lost, and a bunch lost in the Primaries, too.

    Trump has become toxic, and if a Right Winger wants to have a career past 2028, they better show some resistance to MAGA and Trump.

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  • [–] 19 points 4 days ago (8 children)

    He will matter when the time comes to get things done. You want to convict trump? 2/3 majority in the Senate. Want to amend the constitution to teach John Roberts how to read? 66 votes. Hooked on phonics, John. Start with seeing spot run. Democrats can legislate with the majority they have, but now they have to do that and override vetoes. You guessed it, 2/3.

    People aren't going to accept "we tried" again. If Democrats fuck this up now, again, just disband the party.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

    No one will be trying to amend the constitution, unfortunately

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago

    If Democrats fuck this up now, again, just disband the party.

    not how the gop ran the country into the ditch, now it's all about how fast the dems can fix everything that's been fucked up.

    2009 all over again.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 days ago* (2 children)

    2/3 majority in the Senate.

    Democrats are never going to convince enough Republicans to defect, to reach 67 votes in the Senate. So Fetterman indeed doesn't matter.

    People aren’t going to accept “we tried” again.

    I can already see people like coming with criticism like "why didn't the Democrats win that vote that requires 2/3rds majority? Surely because the Democrats don't truly care. Both sides are the same."

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago (1 child)

    The last few times the Democrats held a majority in both houses, they rolled over for Republicans who were absolutely relentless in their attacks.

    When Republicans held both houses, Democrats just silently let them get away with whatever, instead of going on the offensive the way they should.

    Attack. Legislation isn't going to happen. Investigate. Obstruct. Be so offensive that simply existing in Washington becomes unpalatable for Republicans.

    Instead what they'll do is send through the most milquetoast of progressive legislation, watch it get vetoed and when it comes to a point where it could actually happen, they'll forget the ever brought it up in the first place. Like they do every time.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago

    He will flip to Republican.

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  • [–] 4 points 5 days ago

    Oh my god. Those words!!!!! Ha fuck you fetterman get fucked you fucking clod!!!!

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  • [–] 3 points 4 days ago

    Take your fat sweatpants wearing fat ass the fuck out of Congress.

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  • [–] 2 points 5 days ago

    🌎🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago

    Maybe he’ll stroke out in his irrelevance and leave the world

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago

    He never did.

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago (2 children)

    will he be kicked out of the party now?

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  • [–] 1 point 5 days ago

    Go away, troll.

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