For me it's time signatures in music. I grew up playing instruments, played in several orchestras, etc. But no matter how many times someone tries to explain time signatures to me, it makes no sense. I don't understand why people place such importance on it. To me, notes have a pitch and a duration, maybe some dynamics. That's it. I don't understand why people try to needlessly complicate it. It doesn't give you anything.

My wife will hear a song and go "Oh neat, it's in 5/8." And I'm like "How tf do you know that, and why does it matter?"

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[–] 74 points 1 month ago (9 children)

How to make friends. It was so easy as kids, but now I can meet people that do things that I do and who want to do them in a group but they never become friends to me anymore. IDK where I'm going wrong, I don't reek of desperation, I have other friends, but when people say "find your tribe" like, I might be the last of my kind.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I basically don't have any friends of my own anymore. The ones from high school I was never really close enough with to hang out outside school. We were just too different. Almost a decade and a half later and we see each other maybe once a year and don't talk outside of that.

    College was supposed to be a place to meet new people, and I did meet a few, one of which is my current partner. But that also didn't last past college years, really.

    I'm now in a different country, don't really speak the language well enough and don't really have energy or time to find new people. Plus, my introversion, social anxiety and health are only making it harder. My partner occasionally comments on me having no friends of my own, but then I look at his friend circle and want to roll my eyes. Most of his friends are from high school years, and he sees them maybe once or twice a year. There are a few he met through work, but it's easier for him because the field we work in is male-dominated. So for him it's okay, for me it sucks to be the only woman. But he doesn't hang out with any of these people on regular basis. Realistically, most people he knows are acquaintances.

    I think about this whole situation frequently and it makes me depressed and bitter. I feel like even if I find new friends, I'll never be the friend, you know? They'll always have other people they've been friends with for longer and I will be either not as important or discarded later. It's been this way my whole life. Always easily forgotten and replaced.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    I can completely relate. Additionally my specific standards also make it very bad.

    I found out that I'm an Autist so for me it at least explains things but is also totally not helping to know.

    Nevertheless I do not know for sure if all of this isn't totally normal, as in the regular human experience. The older you get the more difficult it is to find and hold friends.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    It's normal. Hardly anyone makes friends after college or early 20s.

    And folks that do, it's mostly through their children. Because they become friends with the parents of their kid's friends... because it's convenient.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Real friends are the ones that stick with you when shit hits the fan. When you're an adult and you meet new people, you usually want to show yourself from your best side and for everything to go well. She we were kids, shit hitting the fan was somebody kicking a ball into a neighbors window or falling of a bike, minor things as an adult, but as kids that built character. The stakes are so much higher as an adult when things go wrong, so generally you avoid it even though this means that most of your relationships are superficial.

    I'm not saying that something horrible must happen in order to get friends as an adult. But sometimes it's better to simply work against the odds together to form a deeper connection.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    that's true. the stakes are higher and you have way more to lose from a bad friendship.

    people forget that there are lots of folks who are happy to exploit, use, and betray you. and when you are a kid that might mean they steal your $20 toy, but as an adult it can be a lot more costly. like your friend can come over, slip your stairs, and they can sue you for damages and take your entire life away. and where i live it's fairly common for people to threaten lawsuits over the stupidest shit.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    You aren't doing anything wrong.

    That's just how life is. Practically nobody makes friends as adults due to the structure of adult life.

    As children you have tons of free time and no hangups or social status to maintain. As an adult you have zero free time, lots of hangups, and most adults are obsessed with social status.

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  • [–] 48 points 1 month ago (12 children)

    To me, notes have a pitch and a duration, maybe some dynamics.

    That could be part of the problem: time signatures aren’t a property of the notes, they’re a property of the song. The time signature is the rhythm and flow of the music. If you try to do a waltz in 4/4, it’s probably not going to sound like a waltz unless you do some really screwy things.

    Plus, knowing the time signature helps you figure out why that guy is waving his stick like that while you’re playing.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    I give you those “screwy things”. Somebody stripped the fifth beats from Brubeck’s magnum opus, and made the most waltz sounding 4 I’ve ever heard.

    Take Four

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    You could write in triplets in 4/4.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Anything can be in 4/4 if you count hard enough.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    That really bothered me at first! Kept thinking 'why ever have a different time sig? No need for 13/8 (or whatever) when you can just sprinkle in double dotted 16th notes tied to 8th note (or whatever).'

    Over time I slowly realized that it's not about technically being able to write it, but rather describing what usually happens. (Tho I still don't really understand, intuit, or hear any of it well.)

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  • So, the original Mission Impossible theme tune is in 5/4. When U2 re-did it for the 1996 Tom Cruise film, the beginning is in 5/4, and then they transition to a slower 4/4. For most of the "Dee da duuuuuuuuuuuh" sections, as far as I can tell it's just a beat shorter, but the tempo is lower, when they do reprise the Dun! Dun! Da Da! section they use two measures, 8 beats, making it dun dun dun dun da da.

    Fun fact: The original dun dun da da was supposed to be "MI" in morse code. --.. dash dash dot dot, with a dash being a beat and a half, a dot being one beat, five beats total. U2 turned it into MMI. ----..

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  • [–] 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    So funny (and kinda sweet) how many people are trying to explain time signature to OP, instead of answering the question.

    I''ve been told all my life that "it's not what I say, but how I say it" that's a problem. Apparently my tone of voice is often aggressive when I don't mean to be. Also, if I'm frustrated about something, people feel that I'm angry at them.

    I was diagnosed with ADHD a few years ago, which explains some of it, but sadly hasn't helped me resolve the issue 😕

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    So funny (and kinda sweet) how many people are trying to explain time signature to OP

    LOL I was checking the comments for exactly this.

    My wife and I have ADHD and have the same issue. Emotional regulation is impaired in many with ADHD, so we tend to run emotionally "hotter" than most. We may get more upset about something than an NT person might, hence why we come across as very upset, but we may not see it as particularly intense because that's a normal reaction in our experience.

    Not necessarily what might be causing it for you, but definitely what does it for me and many others I've known. DBT helped a lot.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    many people are trying to explain time signature

    I'm glad they did, because I also have a hard time with time sigs, and was hoping to see some explanations. In fact, one comment here finally elucidated that I understood signatures wrong this whole time.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I had a sort-of similar thing that took me ages to figure out, but it turns out my thinking/concentrating face just looks angry. So people would ask me things, I'd be thinking of a response and they'd think they annoyed me. So I'm trying to work on that, but also I just tell people my thinking face looks angry now and that's helped a lot lol.

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  • [–] 101 points 1 month ago (21 children)

    I'm not sure if this answers the question but I feel like the older I get the more I see through "the game of life" and once that illusion gets shattered it's impossible to unsee. Much of the status seeking, tribal behaviour becomes nearly impossible to partake in once you start seeing what it's all for.

    Go ask a person why their Instagram is filled to the brim with pictures of their face, for example, and you can watch in real time as their world view starts wobbling and they start making up rationalizations and excuses for behaviour that is utterly narcissistic. Try doing that while being fully conscious about the true motivations behind it. You can't - something has to give.

    However, I'm not sure if this is a good thing. Sure you can pat yourself on the back for being above it all but it makes it really difficult for anyone to try and integrate in normal everyday social situations when all of it just feels like a performance.

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    those people don't exist in many people's lives.

    and even if they do, it's typically only temporary. people who get these lifelong deep authentic friendships... are pretty rare and lucky to have the circumstances in life that allowed for that.

    like, a lot of people don't have those kinds of relationships and never seek them either, the concept just doesn't exist for them and they live their entire lives on a very surface level understanding of the world.

    I don't know about you, but I don't understand how I can develop a deep authentic relationship with people who obsessed with shallow things like their social status and how expensive their car is compared to other people's cars... and that's what dominates the culture in my city. Or who fly into a long winded speech about their anxiety and despair over the fact they only make 350K last year or their stock portfolio only returned 5.5% instead of the 7% their account manager promised them...

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    Only by being yourself you can find people who like you for who you are rather than who you pretend to be. Nobody can beat you at being you but you can only be the second best at pretending to be someone else.

    I take that to mean that if you are weird then embrace it. That attracts other similarly weird people and those are the best kind. There's no point in being liked for being someone you're not so why pretend.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It was middle school when I realized “you can only be cool if you’re not trying to be cool,” which I then said in an effort to sound cool. By high school that had sunk in better and I accidentally ended up popular, I think. That was when I first started looking past what people do to try looking cool.

    In college I got into psychedelics, broke through to ego death while listening to Dark Side of the Moon with blindfolds and peaking, and found that the deeper level of existence was that there isn’t one. Most things in life can be as simple or as complex as you want, and I had been trying to make it more complex than it is.

    But the thing I keep finding is that for as simple as most things actually are, people are consistently more complex than their surface suggests.

    A week ago my cousin was in town and I had a one on one conversation with him for the first time in our adult lives that started with him showing me his relatively popular Instagram photos from the past couple years of him running the rave circuit. But as we got to talking about it, he revealed that he didn’t give a shit about his popularity, his ex-boyfriend was the socials guy who wanted the clout of being with a hot rave guy. He had become disillusioned with pretty much his whole life, but you wouldn’t get that just looking at his socials. And for as shallow as his ex is, if you peeled back the layers of bullshit he’s built around his life, there’s probably some interesting thoughts in there.

    I guess I’m not sure what I’m trying to say with all this. When I make an effort to understand, most people I meet drop the facades and spill their guts pretty quick to me. I might be uniquely weird for that ability, but I don’t know that it’s narcissism on their part so much as trying to be cool and grappling with never succeeding because of that trying.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    That is always the case when comparing one's complex internal life to the perceived external lives of others. It's never an apples to apples comparison. However social media was just one example. This applies to other forms of signaling as well: designer clothes, latest tech, following trends.. Basically almost anything people do that they wouldn't do if there were no one to see it.

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    and you can watch in real time as their world view starts wobbling and they start making up rationalizations and excuses for behaviour that is utterly narcissistic.

    I encounter this when chatting with a family member and she mentions that she "loves animals" and who "couldn't hurt a fly" while also being an omnivore. She feels sorry for the animals when she thinks of industrial farming, but does her best to never think about it. When this topic comes up, I don't say anything (we've been through the topic in the past), but she sees the impatience with her bullshit on my face, and gets flustered by the fact that someone doesn't consider this cognitive dissonance normal.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    I can somewhat relate with that. Eating meat is one of the few behaviours that I still do despite being unable to morally defend it. It's not even that I'm trying not to think about it or have to somehow deceive myself believing that it's good. I know exactly what I'm doing. The convenience of it simply outweighs the moral guilt.

    What I think would possibly make me feel different about it is someone handing me a gun and telling me to shoot a cow. If it turns out that I can't do it, then that really puts into question the outsourcing of the messy part of it in the first place.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    Cool. I love animals and I eat meat and I love it.

    I see nothing wrong with it. Death is part of life.

    Do you ever ask yourself why it is that you need other people to believe and practice what you believe? And do you find when other peole impose their beliefs on you find it offputting and upsetting?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    One can be perfectly happy with the concept of beings dying and being eaten, and still feel nothing but disgust about the meat industry.

    I tend to eat meat semi-regularly out of convenice and social norms, but I am fully aware of my hypocrisy. Same way as I am typing this on a device that probably contains parts made with essentially slave labour. Doesn't make it better. But at least I can avoid the treadmill of having to have the newest iPhone, or eating as much supermarket steak as possible.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Add in a psychedelic experience or two, and it becomes impossible not to recognize how ridiculous it all is.

    Can be done without them, of course, but psychedelics can blast you right to that position, for better or worse.

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  • You don't have to fully integrate, I guess. As in, people don't have to be your intellectual/ideological peers or see things as clearly, but you can still enjoy their company. If anything, it's your moral responsibility to guide them and elucidate them when needed because, well, who else is gonna do it? They can't do it for themselves, else they wouldn't be posting a million selfies or doing whatever other nonsense they're up to after their PFC has developed sufficiently. You're gonna have to lead the blind to water, you don't want them to die of thirst, right? The way is important too, because you don't want them to see you as an annoying, moralising, "no fun allowed" kinda guy, they'll just run away from you... but with the right approach you can be the somewhat wise unc/paternal figure of your group.

    Beware though, people WILL call you asking for guidance on your days off and it'll be up to you to define the limits of your relationships so you don't end up moving to a cabin in the woods disconnected from everything, but it is definitely rewarding and very prosocial.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    start making up rationalizations and excuses for behaviour that is utterly narcissistic

    Humans are narcissistic and selfish because over the millenia the ones that were selfish outcompeted the ones that weren't. It's totally natural to be selfish. Some are just better at hiding it than others.

    However there is also a simple social aspect to including yourself in photos. It's a clear visceral way to say "I was here". A photo without your face does not have capture the "you" part of that statement. Social interaction is not just an exchanging of ideas, it's also about building relationships, and for that to happen, the "you" part of the equation is vital.

    To be fair I rarely include myself in photos, but for the same reason I am also less integrated into my social circles.

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    [–] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Skateboarding. None of it computes for me. My brother has been a lifelong skater and still rips it up at almost 40, and I see him do shit on the board and I just can’t figure out what the fuck is happening. It breaks physics, it’s like bee flight, none of that crap should be possible.

    I watched him go up a very steep incline and do the thing where it’s a kickflip and a pop shove it at the same time, which is enough on its own to break my brain, but he and the board went up and landed at the same angle of the incline like it was flat ground, he and the board went up and down perpendicular to the incline without any vertical drag on the drop and landing. Gravity doesn’t fucking work that way! And how the fuck do their feet and the board just get back together after the board is seizuring mid air and just fucking land and keep going like there are magnets on their feet or something? It’s gods damned wizard shit.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I have a friend who's a skater and when he doing a kickflip I asked how it worked, as in, how do you make sure the board doesn't land upside-down or whatever and he was like, "You just launch off and then deal with it." which was not at all helpful lol. There must be some sort of logic to it!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    It is just physics. Obviously. Getting the intuition for it is pretty difficult without actually doing it. It requires practice but it's also not just muscle memory. You can figure out a lot of the techniques by thinking about it. It is important to be able to visualise a trick before you have any chance of doing it. It's a constant process of thinking, trying, thinking, trying, and suddenly you just feel it, and only then can you do it.

    As for the physics, it's always a battle of opposite forces. Gravity does win, but you can fall with style in the meantime. I guess most people can juggle a football a few times simply by kicking the ball and then get in the position where the ball lands. A skateboard is the same, only with less room and you being on top of it. The secret is the Ollie. Your center of gravity is not at your feet, so there's some room to juggle the board underneath you.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Thats where patterns repeat. It's just for convenience, an 8th note is an 8th note no matter the signature but its how you count the beats. If a piece is in 3/4 the phrases will feel different from 4/4. So, if youre sight reading, it makes it easier to predict when phrases begin and end, when to come in off rests, etc.

    I hope that helps somehow lol.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Getting up early or ever feeling rested. I don't think ive ever felt good in the morning. Basically, if I have 5 drinks and sleep, I'd feel identical waking up as if I'd had nothing. I also feel the same with 5 hours of sleep vs 10. No difference. And I do sleep its not insomnia, just doesnt work.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Get a sleep study. This sounds like a sleep disorder. Especially if you also take naps easily throughout the day.

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    I've always had shit sleep patterns, insomnia as far back as kindergarten. I did eventually get a sleep study done and shocker I have sleep apnea. I got a CPAP and the doc pumped it up so hard. I had facial hair so finding a mask that fits wasn't easy. Also, I'm a side/stomach sleeper, and if I'm on my back in bed I'll be side awake for hours. So I tried the CPAP for a couple months.

    It still woke me up at 2-3 am every single night, and I had dreams about suffocating. Never used it again

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    If I'm being honest, I definitely sleep better with the CPAP. But that mask is so fucking annoying I've given up on it. Blasts of air in my eyes at 2 am or waking up with the salty bottom of the mask in my mouth... I just couldn't do it anymore.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    You might be nocturnal. I used to work nights and felt better getting up at 4pm every day, even if I had less sleep than I get now getting up at 8am

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    I definitely am. If I'm left to my own devices I almost instantly default to going to bed at 5am-ish and getting up at 11-12. But mostly society won't let me do that, so I feel like I'm on a night shift permanently.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    Check out ‘Angine de Poitrine's Math Rhythms Explained’. They use a loop pedal in the context of math-rock with changing time signatures, so they must fit all changes in a track into a fixed length. For those good at time signatures (not me), they also have some misdirections between the loops of different instruments.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    that's fascinating and DIDN'T HELP AT ALL HOLY SHIT.

    it's like saying "oh you don't understand basic physics? here watch Einstein explain his most complex concepts"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Oh that reminds me of the time my then boyfriend, a mathematician, tried to teach me maths. It was like teaching someone French by reading out a few pages of Sartre's La nausée, then saying "OK, that's the basics covered..."

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    It's just an example of guys who definitely must count stuff so that it always fits exactly into the loop while also being precisely timed between the guitar tracks and the drums

    As for physics, iirc the book series by Feynman is recommended to really dig all the stuff from the basics to the fancy theories, and Feynman was no slouch himself.

    Also, Einstein was teaching students in the US later in life.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Shopping. Walking around looking for stuff to buy.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Same. But I've had a couple breakthroughs: I enjoy it if I'm looking to buy something for someone else. And also when it's random junk: thrift stores, flea markets, yard sales, bin stores, that kind of thing. With those it feels like I'm exploring, not just shopping.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I've done this lots of times, especially at malls, only because it's considered "spending" money. The reality, though, is that I'll rarely actually buy something.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    The people who shop look like zombies and young families cannot afford to be paying the massive retail markups in malls. These people are all racking up credit card debts over a transient endorphin rush.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I've had multiple times in my life when people got mad at me for not knowing things I was never told. I have some pretty severe trauma over one especially bad incident and the chain reaction of events it caused.

    So I don't know how others just seem to read each other's minds to just know things. I don't know how to know when someone is mad at me until it's too late, and I don't know how others apparently don't have this problem.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    this is your own bias working against you.

    everyone has this problem. you just don't see it because you aren't there every moment of every day in their life, like you are with yourself.

    people 'seem' to not have this problem because they have learned from experience what other people want, and frankly, what most people want, is mostly the same. so once you figure out the use-case that covers like 90% of people, they are easy to please.

    plus most people are dumb animals and if you treat them like they are... you rarely fail.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago*

    This 1 million times.

    I've always told my friends and significant others to just tell me what they are thinking or wanting. It truly is that simple with me. I do not beat around the bush, nor do I appreciate others doing that. We are adults (those I tell this to) so just tell me, "Hey, I want to do this on this day" or "Hey, I really wish you would do this thing".

    "I am not, and never will be, a mind reader."

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Is this like, "I didn't know you were mad" or "I didn't realize I was supposed to tip my hairdresser" or "I didn't realize they'd turn off our electricity if zi didn't pay the bill"? The first is pretty complicated, but the second two are various flavors of "proactive research is part of maturity".

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  • [–] 16 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Love and affection. As someone who's parents have a bunch of psychological problems, paired with growing up poor as an immigrant. I never in my life have experienced either love or any sort affection for either family nor strangers. For context my mother is a prefect example of a sociopath and I'm 80% sure my dad is autistic. Neither of those conditions exactly scream empathy. I never heard the words 'I love you' spoken with the eyes, or any sort of meaning behind them. Listening to daily (and I'm not exaggerating here) screaming matches for 30 years has given me the impression that those words don't really mean anything to them anyway. Never having had a safe place to develop those feelings and given that I'm not exactly easy on the eyes means that I have somehow managed to become full grown, mentally stable adult with empathy, and a yearning for affection and acceptance without a single fibre of love in my body. Never have I had an interaction other than quid pro quos, "I want something from you, you want something from me." never "I want you, you want me." I literally can't imagine what it's like waking up next to somebody, feeling emotionally safe or having somebody genuinely wanting to spend time with you. I know that there are currently literally billions of people for whom this the most normal thing in the world but for me that is borderline incomprehensible. I would want to wish that kind of lonelines on my worst enemy.

    I'm a dude BTW.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    This seems common for people from dysfunctional households. I come from a similar (though not as extreme) background and I wouldn't consider myself capable of love. Not in a way that matters, at least.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Music et al. I can recognise talent, I can recognise good music, bad music, and music I dislike.

    But for the love of von Neumann, I can't make heads or tails of musical theory, let alone translate it to an instrument. I even suck at Guitar Hero.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    Mine is similar. I adore music but I can’t lock into a melody to save my life. Songs I love & have heard a hundred times before—I’ll try to hum or whistle along with them and I’m all over the place. It’s like I’m purposely trying to sound bad — but that’s actually the very best I can do.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    I can relate, I'm an avid listener to music. I've tried playing guitar and piano but I cannot manifest it somehow.

    Music theory ditto. I usually love nerdy mathy content but somehow music theory finds no place to, well... resonate in my brain.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    Try trackers, in particular Renoise (it's free to use as a demo, without exporting, though there are workarounds for that). At the first glance, it's a spreadsheet where you place samples playing notes. In practice, it works great for people like me who can barely tell what different notes sound like, much less feel intervals and stuff. You just put your samples such that you get the rhythm you want, and don't forget to twiddle the effects because they make a big difference. Of course, this works best for dancey electronic music.

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