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[–] 209 points 1 month ago (16 children)

US: Let's sanction everyone everywhere all at once!

Also US: Why don't people want to be dependent on US systems? 😭

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  • [–] 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Yea we got a bit of the “inmates are running the asylum” situation over here.

    In the immortal words of the joker(paraphrased) this country needs an enema

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  • [–] 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Couldn't undermine the country more if they tried, which makes one wonder.

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  • [–] 69 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

    Yep. Trump's actions are no different than what any bad actor would do if they wanted to destroy the USA without invading it.

    • Destroy our soft power... check!
    • Turn allies against us... check!
    • Destroy our economy... check!
    • Drastically weaken our military... check!
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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    And I'm accepting that he does it because he's likely a Russian asset, but why the fuck are the rest of them playing along? You can't tell me they're all being bought.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I wish. Organizations and countries/municipalities are far too lazy to make the change.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    The time and money involved are both staggering. This isn't about you switching operating systems on your personal laptop.

    Where are you going to get support staff anytime soon? All those Windows admins magically switching to Linux overnight?

    Hell, Linux offers nothing remotely comparable to the power of Active Directory. That alone will keep Windows in the lead.

    And more. This isn't about lazy.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago

    Time + motivation + money can overcome a lot of obstacles. It also helps that template of what is needed already exists in Active Directory. This changes the project from "innovating something new" to "a slightly better copy" and is usually a lot faster and easier.

    All copyright/patents are also void because of the sanctions at least in practice.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    What is the alternative to AD, and are there currently companies running that, big or small?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago*

    At this point, a lot of entities don't need AD because their entire workflow runs in a web browser, and practically any SSO provider will work.

    That said, accessing actual computer resources can be managed with groups and ACLs. Perhaps not as elegantly or as well-integrated as AD is, but that's the price you pay.

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  • [+] 65 points 1 month ago (2 children)
  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    I am in a large (couple thousand staff) company and I cant get why we dont selfhost everything. Like yeah it would have an upfront cost but the savings stack immediately. We spend like 30-50 a user for office access.

    Copilot is so shit and we could build an alternative with relative ease and never pay again. It wouldnt be baked into teams but who gives a fuck.

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  • [–] 63 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    US has been building soft power like this for decades, and Trump is pissing it all away.

    If this process to get rid of dependency on US gets well underway, there's no turning that ship. US won't recover the position it had in fifty years or more.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    US won't recover the position it had in fifty years or more.

    This is not a bad thing. Over dependency on any one nation or even a bloc of nations is a bad thing.

    I can’t help but think the dependency on the US that has been created played some role in what’s happening now.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Honestly, I can see that. America has been top dog for so long, it doesn't value what it has.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Not even that. I’m thinking too much money, power and influence all consolidated in one place.

    The US has the most billionaires at 989 and I’m guessing of the remaining ~2400 billionaires in the world, a not insignificant amount have substantial interests in the US.

    It’s good the rest of the world is watching it happen. I hope they’re taking notes because it’s not stopping in America.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    I've been pro US imperialism for a while now, but honestly I'm glad that the rest of the world is shedding the worst of our power projection.

    On one hand the heel position has really pushed a lot of the world in a positive direction, but there's gotta be a better fucking way then, like you said destroying half a century of international relations and cooperation. That's not to mention the bigger issue of US supported genocide in Palistein and the ethnic cleansing operation in the states, which I can't excuse for any 4d accidently good things on the geopolitical scale.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Has it though? I used to believe the same thing as you... But seeing the shit that has happened I started to look through history without red white and blue glasses... And I'm not sure America was ever a global good...

    So many overthrown governments... So many sanctions... So much pressure on people... And behind the scenes it was always to expand power for some mega Corp....

    And then all the fucking wars... Wars on wars on wars... The USA is CONSTANTLY killing someone somewhere....

    It's honestly a are we the baddies when you look back at history

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    There are no good countries in modern geopolitics but some times people do good things.

    There were good cases. People hate but we have defended women and LGBTQ people around the world. There is a reason Iranian and Russian propaganda shows the US with the rainbow flag. There was a generation of girls that were able to get education in Afghanistan.

    We were leading the defense and support of the Kurdish people.

    The Marshal plan building the safetynets and basis for democratic socialism in the EU and Japan.

    The ACLU, the EFF, the GNU project, TOR, Ammesty International, Doctors without Borders, human rights watch, the IWW, etc.

    The global eradication of small pox. Heck all of the hate Elon deserves for the unconstitutional cuts to USAID are because millions were being helped.

    International collaberstion on space exploration and development. The major contributions to the development of the global internet in general.

    Leading the establishment and being the primary enforcement of international law.

    The US also was the leader in the modern environmental movement! With the national park system, the EPA, pushing hard to save the ozone, the fight to stole wailing and other marine protections. Etc

    If someone says this was solely the US they would be both factually wrong AND also missing the point that makes some of these great. The collaberation with the world aspects is what made they any sense of good. That said despite all of that it's easy to say it's a checkered score card (which after a ramble of great things should hint at how bad other things were). But I still supported us doing good things globally.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    never trust the americans again

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  • [–] 25 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    I will be so pissed off when a democrat is elected and every single EU country will try to go back to business as usual

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I think that's very likely over. You could argue and people did that one Trump term was just an anomaly. Two is much more difficult to explain away like that and I think Europe gets it now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Trump, and worse to come, seems an obvious outcome when looking at the unrepresentative two-party system used to divide Americans. Places in Europe use a more representative voting systems, so Europeans aught to know it's a question of when Americans notice 2 options at the ballot is only 1 better than Russia.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago

    most things will, I doubt this will though.

    it's surprising that most countries didn't see this as a national security threat to begin with, but here we are.

    I think before the end of the current trump administration we'll see a ban on using Linux within the US out of spite.

    them not realizing or caring that 90% of the internet runs on *nixos derived software will only make things more chaotic.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Dont worry that will never happen again.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    And nothing of value was lost

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  • [–] 67 points 1 month ago

    All middle powers need to align and collaborate on this. There is limited programming talent and gaps and especially security (ai) gaps need to be filled. EU, UK, Canada, Aus, NZ, SK, Japan should actively pool resources.

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  • [–] 67 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    The U.S. imposed sanctions on the International Criminal Court

    ...fuck this place.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (1 child)

    Well the ICC isn't amazing either. Historically it has been used as a tool to "prosecute" African individuals in western courts and has prosecuted literally 0 western war criminals, completely ignoring European crimes abroad. Whether imperialistic/colonialistic or just trying to establish itself as legitimate by prosecuting easy targets, African countries (who were initially all for the ICC because of their history with instability and war and were some of the main case referers early on) are withdrawing because of how "unbalanced" the justice is.

    The ICC has never once prosecuted a european national, EVER, for war crimes.

    A lot of regimes seeking to get rid of western mega-corporation exploitation are resorting to getting rid of as much western influence as possible, maybe because the frequency of European, american, and corporate sponsored coups.

    But the US never recognized the ICC because they commit so many thousands of war crimes.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This might just be the best thing that happens in tech (for me) all year.

    I daily drive debian just because boring and reliable. However, fancy package managers like flatpak and appimages and nix have made debian much more vibrant - it's easy to install new versions of things now.

    That said, nix package manager on debian is just freakin amazing. Being able to just nix-shell -p <obscure cli tool> and exit when I'm done with it is magnificent.

    That's the gateway drug anyway. The nix based home-manager is pretty cool.

    While I've been tempted to jump in with NixOS my experience with nix packages and home-manager has felt kind of bleeding edge or experimental. Loads of things that don't work as intended on debian.

    A sophisticated well funded user base like a federal government has really good implications for the stability of the project in the future. I'm really stoked about this.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    NixOS is great, but it definitely breaks things. It's the way it works, though, not whether the software is bleeding edge. Nix lets a package specify its own dependencies, even if those dependencies conflict with those of another package. It does this by breaking the traditional POSIX file system structure that many programs assume they can depend on. It puts all sorts of things where they "don't belong", and then uses a small army of environment variables, scripts, and symlinks to stitch it back together so that no individual package realizes what happened. If you only use software from the package manager, this is often (but not always) seemless, but if you download stuff from the web, none of the system libraries it traditionally expects are there. Likewise, if you're using Nix alongside something like Debian's apt, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the two package managers doing things in two different ways causes some issues that are hard to interpret to the uninformed.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Personally id say try it in a VM*. Home-manager and nix packages (and even flakes at this point) havent felt like experimental features for a good 5 years for me on NixOS

    Edit: while on Mac yes. Havent played with it that much on other distros

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    I'm in a local administration in France, it's rapidly getting closer to home... Our higher-ups somehow decided a thourough Microsoft integration was a good idea like 5 years ago.

    Seems like we're just one political comment about support to the ICC to be in the same situation. And I mean, fuck it, we should be. But I am not happy about the shit we'll have to go through to purge it all now.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 month ago*

    US: You want to cut us off? No! We cut you off!

    NL: How petty are you?

    US: Yes.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 month ago (13 children)

    Windows is basically a zombie OS at this point, shambling along and eating brains.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (12 children)

    Windows as a home user desktop is definitely coasting on momentum, though it is also the OS deployed on most new PCs which keeps it going.

    I think the only thing really keeping Microsoft relevant is Active Directory (and Azure by extension) because a lot of organizations are dependent on AD internally, and there still aren't really any good alternatives that check all the same boxes. You could probably cobble together a working solution for ~90% of it with open source software, but it would be clunky, fragmented and feature-poor compared to an on-prem AD system. It would require a lot more administrative overhead to configure and maintain it, and user management would be a mess.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago

    I'm starting to see non-AD companies cropping up. If you have to support Mac and Mac is absolute trash on AD, you need to run software to manage the macs which can already manage windows. With all the remote work, even RMM software is on the rise.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Sounds like there’s a startup opportunity here.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

    Sure, but they'll have to catch up on almost 30 years of feature development (and feature creep). Active Directory is entrenched, by virtue of being the only game in town for decades.

    Not that they're necessarily irreplaceable, but... a half-competent Windows Server admin can go from cold iron to running HyperV with a local domain (AD forest) with a SAN supporting 200 endpoints (assuming the hardware is already in place) pre-configured with end-user applications and all relevant network & security settings (via group policy), with a print server supporting local network printers, and be ready to enroll new users, in less than a day.

    I've seen it done, I've helped get it done. And all of that can be done with point-and-click GUIs, and not a dozen different ones, just like 3 (one for server/HyperV deployment, one for HyperV config post-install, and then basically everything else can be done through Active Directory).

    When you're a sysadmin for a large organization, that kind of operation at scale is non-negotiable. When I say that AD really has no competition, that's what I mean. You could accomplish all of the same things on Linux, but it would take you a week of punching through terminal commands just to get the server and the domain up and running, and once you were done the user management still wouldn't be as flexible or feature-complete as it is on AD (especially if you need things like auditing, or physical access token integration like badges for authentication, or remote desktop support, or video conferencing that is linked to corporate email accounts).


    All of that said, if you happen to know of a group that's actually working on a competitor for on-prem AD (not Azure AD/EntraID, the cloud system is very different and not really comparable) I would be very interested. It's a problem that's been on my mind for awhile now, and I'd love to get paid to actually work on it.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    You should check out JumpCloud. It frankly feels a lot like you're living in a cloud-first, Microsoft-free future. It's a dream to use and scales, manages Windows, Mac and Linux as equal citizens. We don't even maintain on-premises servers (including domain controllers) anymore, we just use IP addressing from the firewall and patch, control, manage all our computers from one pane of glass.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    living in a cloud-first, Microsoft-free future

    Oh really, whose cloud? Oracle?

    We don't even maintain on-premises servers

    Ah, you're dependent on someone else's computers, someone else's network architecture.

    That sounds awful.

    Nope nope nope, need on-prem only data, on-prem user account control, on-prem domain, absolute positive control of all outbound network connections with as few of those as possible, and no dependence on someone else's monthly compute fees.

    Local always, remote only when absolutely unavoidable, and then stripped to the bare minimum. I'll run my own NTP server so that only it has to reach outside for time updates, and every other local device can get time from it.

    NO. CLOUD.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    It's fine to have these feelings, it just depends on your comfort level. For my home / personal life, I agree very much. For business, not so much (but, depends on your business).

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    OK, maybe no cloud is a bit extreme, I'll grant that. Maybe your business needs some clunky, minimum-effort, rent-seeking SaaS crapware like Salesforce... fine

    IaaS? No. Nope. Not for anything we actually need.

    No cloud for anything required to manage and maintain the local network or user accounts. If the external network goes down, we're still operational internally, we have our own domain and authentication servers, everyone can still login and run any locally deployed applications (which we prefer, so most of our business needs are served that way). We're not going to lose corporate data to the latest AWS leak, we're not going to be dead in the water because AWS East went down again, we aren't going to have to reasess our budget because AWS raised their monthly fee again.

    It's not about "feelings", it's about proper risk assessment and mitigation.

    You can outsource labor, you can outsource storage, you can outsource compute, you can't outsource risk.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Hey I didn’t say it would be easy, you’re right there’s a ton it’s doing.

    Rebuilding what it’s doing though wouldn’t take 30 years, they’ve figured out the requirements which means a startup can start fresh and build something even cleaner that works full on premise but seamlessly leverages cloud services if you want them for backup / recovery situations in the event that your on premise systems have a failure.

    I don’t know anyone working on this but the fact that it would be hard means it’s actually not easily replicable and would be a good business for a startup to capture. The value prop is high for companies, if they could save a huge amount of money on licensing and get improved operational cost without sacrificing what they get from on premise it would be worth it.

    It would definitely be hard to get companies to switch but the potential savings and country independence parts might be enough to make them interested in paying the switching costs.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Rebuilding what it’s doing though wouldn’t take 30 years, they’ve figured out the requirements

    Heh, I don't know about that... AD is the way that it is because nobody has actually figured out what the operational requirements of any given organization are. Certainly not Microsoft, not even after 2.5 decades of trying.

    which means a startup can start fresh and build something even cleaner that works full on premise but seamlessly leverages cloud services

    Do you work in marketing? did you get that phrase out of a brochure?

    There's nothing seamless about anything cloud. Start taking apart any cloud platform and it will spill a bunch of ugly spaghetti and Swiss cheese.

    There are no green fields, especially when you're talking about replacing an existing, operationally critical piece of technology. This is what you get:


    https://xkcd.com/927/

    in the event that your on premise systems have a failure.

    If the on-prem systems have a failure there won't be any outbound network connectivity, there won't be anything capable of connecting externally.

    The value prop is high for companies, if they could save a huge amount of money on licensing and get improved operational cost

    That "if" is load-bearing. The "potential savings" are imaginary, theoretical at best. It doesn't really make sense to talk about "switching costs" when there's nothing to switch to. It's a big pile of "what-ifs" and "could-bes".

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  • [–] 39 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Neet, if NixOS get used more and more then the skills I acquired making my config will become marketable.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Considering the Dutch have ASML, this seems an unwise move for the US. But then, the Dogey Confederates are working towards the destruction of the USA. 😒

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Considering the Dutch have ASML,

    That's a card which only hurts ASML if played.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    If ASML has many competitors, then yes.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    If ASML had many customers, then yes.

    Intel is ASML's single largest customer, making up a full quarter of their income. TSMC is the next biggest, but all their current expansion is in USA, so they'd probably not be able to buy anything either.

    Next then is Samsung who are also building out US fabs, but also new Korean fabs, so some of their business wouldn't be allowed.

    Global Foundries would also be out.

    ASML would have to survive losing 60% or more of their current income. They'd be gone in a year since EU countries don't/won't subsidise semiconductors. (see: The loss of Qimonda, Global Foundries stuck on 28nm in EU forever, etc)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    ASML is the sole manufacturer of EUV machines in the world. Everyone needs ASML, not the other way around. There is no replacement for ASML.

    ASML basically decides what they want to do. Right now they align with the USA export restrictions, but that friendly relation is not guaranteed to remain. Only China is banned. ASML can still sell their machines at will otherwise.

    If ASML breaks with the USA it will be fine, but the USA won't be fine at all.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)
  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    Not OP, but I don't understand your question.

    As a US citizen, I try to say "The States" instead of America when talking about my country. I do that out of respect for all of the countries that call these two beautiful American continents home.

    I admit to defaulting to "American" instead of a cumbersome "United Statesian" or the above "US Citizen." But that's what we grew up calling ourselves and told to call ourselves and our fellow countrymen.

    "Just another American Country" seems like it would be insulting to Canada, Chile and all of our neighbors in between. I'm not sure my fellow Americans would even pick up that you were talking about the States unless you really layed on thick context.

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    [–] 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    This great news! Away with USA!

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    So we did this because we didn't like what the court said not about us but Israel and its war crimes? This is the hill the admin is going to die (and drag us with them) on?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 month ago

    Microsoft: "No, not like that!"

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  • [–] 11 points 1 month ago

    I've been doing a project https://themildtake.com/articles/2026-07-04-a-declaration-of-independence/ ever since Independence Day and I have been shocked by how insane the open-source tooling out there is now. NextCloud and Collabara alone solves 90% of company's needs. ERPNEXT covers a huge swath in mid-range needs. I combine it with a mailcow server and Authentik for SSO and I am not sure how much else most businesses need. The whole stack is zero cost.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago

    Netherlands: "Let's make The Netherlands great again."

    United States: "What have we done."

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  • [–] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child)

    The whole Netherlands? What....?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    I can explain a major reason why public services and administration are begrudgingly moving to FOSS or OSS at all. They need to apply security standards like ISO 27001 and when they start going through what the documentation requires they realize that most OSS let alone FOSS make it very hard to have any say in the development of the software.

    How do you make sure that the security flaws are patched promptly? Do you open a ticket on GitHub and simply hope it gets picked up by the devs? I can tell you from experience that some OSS devs will tell you to make your own merge request if it's so important to you. GDPR makes having vulnerable public facing services very unattractive. What about support for the product when you need something fixed or have an issue with running the software?

    You can definitely get a license for an OSS, or get a legal agreement for support from the OSS devs for money. I can guarantee you that when managers in public services look at either patching together and managing a bunch of separate OSS or using Microsofts integrated infrastructure, they see the advantages right away.

    That is the sad truth... It's resource intensive and a regulatory problem to create and manage a whole infrastructure. It's much easier to use integrated and centralized solutions.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 month ago*

    The problem you point out has been known in the Linux community for literally decades and is the reason why Red Hat Linux was created and any company can, right know, get an Enterprise version of it with an Enterprise support contract.

    That said, over the years I worked in seriously large multinational companies which used Linux and other open source products like Apache extensively on the server side (pretty much all such machines had it) so at least on the server side things did change massively from back in the day when companies would get Sun servers with SunOS or IBM server with Minix rather than generic server PCs with Linux due to that rationale you stated.

    In fact, it has also become a common thing in much smaller companies, though maybe not the small and micro-sized ones.

    The reality on the ground at least on the server side and for infrastructure software is that companies did find a way to deal with the problem of not being able to get support contracts from many of the OSS apps makers, and did so either by just paying some company specialized in supporting it or by having their own developers - after all, it's exactly the thing with OSS that any developer can change it hence you're not limited to paying for support from a specific company that makes the software.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    There is absolutely nothing preventing them from hiring a firm to develop a feature in FOSS. Hell, they can even keep it proprietary if they wanted to.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 month ago

    they can even keep it proprietary if they wanted to.

    Yes, with the caveat that it would have to be an internal piece of software, or if it's a public facing tool then it would have to be under a non-copyleft licence. But yeah, for 99% of use cases they could have a proprietary fork.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Don't get me started about ISO. They can go fuck themselves.

    But that particular standard doesn't apply to software. It applies to a company. Its a best practices, audited authoritative report. None of that means the software doesnt have backdoors, flaws, issues, its how they handle them.

    Microsoft is a known ISO cheater, and will pay off companies or at least influence them, so I wouldn't trust ISO or the auditors.

    So now, any company that is willing to take on the challenge of being certified can use open source software (which actually is audit-able as opposed to Microsoft's).

    Seems like there is a path forward. Yes they may have to fund a project that helps audit, develop, or maintain critical software. If its open source, you have an entire world could also participate in securely developing software, in the open.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago

    Commercial support or if it's critical enough infrastructure have a full time department/team to do it. Commercial support is the obvious choice for most countries starting out tbh.

    Honestly SuSE, Ubuntu, and Hetzner all have good for enterprise support and its crazy that they don't have more major gov business in the EU now.

    But honestly yeah, pay for labour to maintain things. It's not a breaking new idea. You can do that AND own the things instead of renting from private companies too. Also not a new idea.

    The only thing new is that we are talking about computers and we have museums for them already so maybe get with the times, right?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Microsoft office is still their best product but many words apps such as only office are becoming comparable. Microsoft Access and excels cross compatibility with other office apps is unmatched

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  • [–] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    They don’t even need to be comparable. Majority of people just need the basics or what Office 2013 had to offer. Now Office does too much and now copilot… if anything it’s getting worse now.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    Yup. I haven’t bought any new Office keys since like 2020, and I never will. Keep the CoPilot away from my thoughts, geesh. I feel like a schizo when I use them.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    We never should have let that horse into the hospital.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    Gotta love how all these cunt ass companies are objectively doing worse and losing business present and future for putting mango Mussolini in charge. They can all choke on their avarice.

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