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[–] 23 points 2 months ago

Here in Norway it would be a long way beneath minimum wage. But also a huge amount to be given even once by your boyfriend.

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  • [–] 23 points 2 months ago

    Don't listen to the gossiping idiots who are just trying to drag you down out of envy. If the guy can afford to send you $2000 a month he's definitely wealthy.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Lots of comments re how much that is and what it equates to.

    I’m slightly uneasy about why. Just seems a bit odd an online boyfriend would be sending money at all.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 months ago

    Sounds like your friends are jealous and trying to spoil your relationship or you’re trying to push for more money from the boyfriend honestly.

    $2k a month is a lot to spend for most Americans if it’s not on bills. Most Americans don’t have $1,000 in savings much less sending $2,000 each month.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 months ago

    I make more money than most people in the US, in the top 6% of earners. $2k/month is still a significant amount of money and not something I could afford to do, at least not without significant sacrifice.

    That being said, I have a wife and 2 kids I support, and we have a house. A normal house, not extravagant (slightly more than the median house price in the US, which is very high). But all of that does cost a lot of money, so even though the amount I make sounds like a lot, when you actually pay for everything you need to live a modestly comfortable life, it adds up.

    If I didn't have anyone else to support and was just living in an apartment, I could probably swing $2k/month, but it's still not insignificant. You could do a lot with that kind of money.

    To be honest, someone behaving the way that you describe would make me think that they don't work for their money, or at least, not all of it. Sounds like someone really affluent that has a lot of family money. Normal people in the US generally can't afford to do something like that.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 months ago

    For what do you need $2,000 in the Philippines??

    With that money you can afford a mansion, can't you?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    The US federal minimum wage is $7.25/hour but that's ridiculously low and impossible to live on almost everywhere. States and cities can also have their own minimums. California is $16.90/hour and San Francisco (an expensive city in California) is $19.61/hour. Multiply the hourly amount by around 168 hours/month to get the monthly amount. But, if your BF has some kind of professional job in an expensive city, he will be making a lot more, at least $50/hour (100k/year), depending. To put this in context you basically can't get any decent rental housing in San Francisco for $2000/month for 1 person.

    Is this like a real boyfriend or an online boyfriend? I wonder what he is thinking.

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    [–] 15 points 2 months ago (6 children)

    Germany: 2000€ would be someone working part-time or a bad job. It might be enough to scrape by. But not comfortable, depending on whether you want to live in a city. In a small town, you might be fine

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  • [–] 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    For context, the average salary in Germany was 2700 € in 2024. That's $ 3100.

    https://de.statista.com/themen/293/durchschnittseinkommen/#topicOverview

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I think thats mean average and not median average. So not very representative. 2000€ is a very normal netto wage. 2700€ is very comfortable, assuming you dont have children...

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  • [–] 7 points 2 months ago*

    Switzerland. No, that's barely the rent.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    I’m a millionaire.

    There are like 4 people on earth and in few situations I’d ever give money away like that and all of them are medical or joblessness.

    That’s insane. From a global top 5%, still a lot of money to toss around casually.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    2000 a month is not enough to live on (California), but it's also not nothing. It's a pretty serious amount of money, especially if it's given per month. For reference, the median salary in California is around 4000 per month before tax (according to US Census). If we assume that he is an average person from California, then he is giving you 50% of his entire income. He's left with 2000 a month himself, which isn't enough for him to survive. And California pays well, so if he's not from California, then he's likely sacrificing a lot more than in this example.

    As a general rule of thumb, a single person's salary in America typically cannot support 2 people, so even if he's "only" giving you minimum wage, it's still a very substantial amount of money. Also, 2000 a month is almost double of what you earn on federal minimum wage, so what your friends say isn't even true.

    Honestly, my read is that your friends sound problematic. It's minimizing and downplaying his contribution and sacrifices, even if it's meant to be a joke.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    Can I get an american boyfriend to send me 2k dollars, too? I'll take one that can only afford 1,999/mo, i'm not that picky

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  • [–] 6 points 2 months ago

    As income, it's poor. As rent, it's high-to-average depending where you live and how many roommates. As food budget, very high. As disposable income, very very high.

    To spend on an Internet sugar baby? Huge amount.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    No. My rent is 1600 Euro. Welcome to South West Germany, where the Swiss live and the Germans just hang on.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    If someone is giving away 2k/mo, then I'd guess they make at least 10k/mo

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    Your friends are envious & are trying to ruin your relationship.

    Get better friends.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Scandinavian country: Entry level wage full time is about US $2600 before tax, about $2000 after tax.

    I could live comfortably on that.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    It would move me to a decent home and pay most of my bills, if I were very frugal. But not groceries.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    YES, in Poland our minimum wage is a little over half of that (around $1200 before tax) and even then you'd be lucky to be earning that much.

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  • As a German who is single: With 2000$ I could afford my own place, groceries, clothes and still have a couple hundred bucks to spend on fun stuff. It is a lot of money in my opinion.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    That's around 1700€, about the average monthly net wage here.
    Its a livable wage for a single person, nothing spectacular, should have something left over after everything is payed. For a household of two earning that, its a bit more comfortable.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    I live in the US, in Southern California, which is one of the more expensive parts of the country. $2k a month isn't a lot in that it would be hard to live on it, but I made pretty decent money before I retired and it's more than I could have comfortably given away.

    Remember that anyone here talking about hourly wages is talking about gross income and not net income, and if you give money away it comes out of net income.

    Let's say someone was making $100 an hour, which is $200k a year, and fairly decent money. That's $16.6k a month. But after taxes that's more like $10k. Most people making that kind of money have a mortgage, car payments, home and car insurance. Also, employer sponsored medical usually only pays like two thirds of the insurance costs. And they likely have money coming out of their check into a retirement account. So the disposable income is going to be a lot less and $2k isn't going to be a trivial percentage.

    But if the person is making, say, twice that amount, then it's starting to be more trivial. Not a ton of people are making $400k or more a year.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    Here in lithuania, the average pay is around 1400€ after taxes I think, the minimum works out at 840€. 2000 would be a sizeable sum, more than enough to live comfortably

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    $2000 USD equivalent is a very good amount in most countries, not enough in some. I travel often and my monthly budget these days has been around $700 a month for rent, groceries, data and fun(mongolia, korea, china, japan, peru, Guatemala). rent is cheaper for travelers, I don't have a car while traveling and don't have to pay for utilities, wifi, insurance or maintenance.

    the current average US sedentary rental price, on the other hand, is $1500 per month before utilities, insurance and fees, and in the traditional US housing infrastructure, a US renter is often required to prove they have 2x or more of the necessary monthly rental fee for their application to be accepted.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago

    There doesn't exist a place where $2000 a month isn't significant money.

    Fucking obviously. I don't believe you didn't know that.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    In Czechia, that was about my monthly salary and my best paying job so far

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    UK, no. For comparison that's way under minimum wage (if my maths is correct).

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    It's enough to keep an individual housed and fed, but you'd probably have to go on the dole to treat a serious medical issue. I wouldn't want to have to raise a family on it. I would not consider it a good income by local community standards.

    (lower CoL part of the USA)

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  • [–] 3 points 2 months ago

    It is not. There are parts of the US, where you could survive on that.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago*

    $2000 is "basically minimum wage" for a fulltime job, per month - but it's not nothing.

    Roughly. In Northern/Central Europe it would be roughly the same. Give or take a few 100.

    But you probably wouldn't be able to feed a family from that anymore. Just yourself. If your rent isn't too high. And if it includes healthcare.

    But it's still not nothing.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago*

    Depends on cost of living if you're looking at it from his perspective. In the state of West Virginia that money would go a lot further on average compared to California or New York (and going by city the divide gets even greater).

    We don't know what field of employment your boyfriend is in, but if he's comfortable sending $2000 a month abroad, that means he has either a spectacular job in a high cost of living area, or an okay job in a medium to low cost of living area at minimum.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Definitely not in London

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    You must be living the good life on $2k per month there! Go easy on the polutan lol

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    In Switzerland that’s less than a rent in "large cities".

    For the cantons (regions) that have a minimum wage, this minimum is at 4000 and while possible, living at 4000/months in Geneva or Zurich is considered poverty. You can do it but it’s a constant fight to find low prices and save money, it’s survival, not living.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    Everyone saying no... It doesn't need to be enough to cover your monthly expenses in order for it to be a lot of money to send your internet boyfriend/girlfriend every month.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    At least two months of my mortgage and all my bills (electric is high in summer for aircon) with some left over here in rural Japan.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    In Australia that's not a comfortable amount to be living on monthly as your only income, but many people do survive on less.

    It is however an awful lot of money to just give to someone, let alone as a monthly amount. If anyone is actually suggesting that it's not enough you should not trust their advice.

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  • That's twice the average salary around here

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago

    It is close to the average gross monthly wage in Japan at the current exchange rate. Higher than some rural areas I guess.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Min wage in the US is 7.45 hr @ 40hs is $298.00 a week so just a shade under 1200.. 2 grand is what most folks pay for rent in an apartment monthly

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    That's what I spend on rent, health care, internet, power, water, heating, insurance alone (in the Netherlands). It's 60% of my income. I have a slightly above average income.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    It's minimum wage but it's like. The whole minimum wage income. Hundreds of millions of people use that $2k check to (barely) pay for food, a home, a car, and everything else they need to probably not die tomorrow. Because of the way wealth is distributed, more people do that than don't do that. So it's both a small, yet in proper perspective a HUGE amount of money to send monthly.

    The fact that he can afford to pay another person a wholeass minimum wage paycheck is INSANE. Like you're his wholeass employee. I make twice that and had to make my stay at home house-husband who shares a kitchen and bathroom with me get a part time job to afford $300 of weed money a month.

    TLDR; it's minimum wage, but the fact that your boyfriend is paying you A Wage is insane.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    First of all, good for you lol

    It's € 1.715 with today's exchange rate. The minimum salary where I live is roughly € 1,9k after tax. Not life-changing money, but it's still an absolutely huge amount that is enough for survival & is quite significant

    I mean this is a large amount of money even for Americans though. The absolute highest paying "normal" job I could think of is a stacked SF Bay tech guy who makes $200K/yr after tax... but that's still like 12% of take-home pay

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago*

    That's about 1700€. In Spain is well above minimum. It is not huge but for me it is where a very nice one starts. It is very close to where it is mandatory to file income taxes.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    That would be a good amount of money for someone running an Only Fans account for just one client.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Swede here, this is about 45% of my monthly salary

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    2 k a month is barely above minimum wage. That’s 24k a year. That’s garbage pay. (I’m answering from the point of view off where someone is earning that money in a job).

    Having someone give you that is a nice chunk of money. But it gives you an idea of what it actually is worth.

    Btw I’m answering as someone in a community of 114,000+ people. We have 4 towns that are shoved together. In this area that money is barely above minimum wage income.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago

    Minimum wage where I live is $16.80 an hour, so at 40 hours a week that's $672 a week, so that's $34,944 a year or $2,912 a month.

    So potentially, yeah, if they make $3,000 a month and send you $2,000, that could be significant.

    OTOH, at my peak I was pulling down $12,000 a month, so your mileage may vary!

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago

    If you're talking USD its nothing - can't pay bills or buy groceries with it here.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago

    Dollars are insignificant where I live

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